So, being that the only vapor shop that lets me sample is about an hour drive away, I kind of have to shop online for flavors or sample them, then buy online, but occasionally I find stuff online that sounds absolutely delicious, but then I see I can choose my PG/VG ratio, and having never... chosen or tasted or seen the difference I have no idea how to choose a flavor. I mean, I've bought Foos juice, Rocket Fuel Vapes, and Aeon I believe is the name of the company. Blueberry and Vanilla from Foos, with Cats Meow from Rocket Fuel Vapes and Jedi juice from Aeon. (I flavor swap a lot depending on what I feel like tasting that day) but I have no idea on their ratios, so I guess, how the hell do I pick a ratio?
VG/PG Ratios for a newbie
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I'm mostly using 50/50 blends, getting a nice taste and somewhat nice vapour.
The more PG it has, the more flavour & stronger throat hit it'll have. The more VG the more vapour you will produce but slightly muted taste. Also VG is thicker so some atomizers will have problem with wicking, in a protank 2/3 for example. They can handle 50/50 fairly well but over that it'll start to have wicking problems.
But if i compare my 70pg/30vg vs 50/50 the diffrence in taste is minimal.
However i'm abit sensitive to higher PG ratios so thats my main reason i'm using 50/50 blends.
The more PG it has, the more flavour & stronger throat hit it'll have. The more VG the more vapour you will produce but slightly muted taste. Also VG is thicker so some atomizers will have problem with wicking, in a protank 2/3 for example. They can handle 50/50 fairly well but over that it'll start to have wicking problems.
But if i compare my 70pg/30vg vs 50/50 the diffrence in taste is minimal.
However i'm abit sensitive to higher PG ratios so thats my main reason i'm using 50/50 blends.
The ratio determines the consistency of the vapor somewhat. PG (Propylene Glycol) gives more of a throat hit, but produces thinner vapor. PG is tasteless, odorless, and clear. There are also more cases of allergies to PG, than VG. VG (Vegetable Glycerine) is a lot thicker (more viscous) than PG and produces thicker clouds of vapor. It has a naturally sweet taste so e-juices with more VG will likely be sweeter.
Go ahead and read this article: What Does % PG/%VG Mean? What Kind Of E-Liquid Do I Order?
The most common ratio I see these days is 70% VG / 30% PG, but it's more of a personal preference thing. Personally, I mix my DIY juices at 80%VG/20%PG and love it.
It also depends on your vaping setup. Are you using mech mod and RDA? Or a VV/VW mod and tank? Or a mech mod with a kick and a tank? Or a VV/VW mod with an RDA? Tanks tend to not like higher percentages of VG in my experience.
Good luck!
Future reference, de googliez is a fantastic resource for questions like this!
Go ahead and read this article: What Does % PG/%VG Mean? What Kind Of E-Liquid Do I Order?
The most common ratio I see these days is 70% VG / 30% PG, but it's more of a personal preference thing. Personally, I mix my DIY juices at 80%VG/20%PG and love it.
It also depends on your vaping setup. Are you using mech mod and RDA? Or a VV/VW mod and tank? Or a mech mod with a kick and a tank? Or a VV/VW mod with an RDA? Tanks tend to not like higher percentages of VG in my experience.
Good luck!
Future reference, de googliez is a fantastic resource for questions like this!
VG give clods
PG gives flavor and throat hit.
I prefer PG in the 70-80 % with VG in the 30-20% in my juices.
If I go higher then 30% VG I get this greasy french fry taste while vaping.
You will just have to find the mix that works for you. Many of the online vendor give you the option to select the ratio.
Good luck with you adventure.
PG gives flavor and throat hit.
I prefer PG in the 70-80 % with VG in the 30-20% in my juices.
If I go higher then 30% VG I get this greasy french fry taste while vaping.
You will just have to find the mix that works for you. Many of the online vendor give you the option to select the ratio.
Good luck with you adventure.
I am using a Lavatube 2.5 and a simple cartomizer tank that came with the mod, I also have a Nautilus, and am planning on buying more Carto tanks, so if too much VG would gunk my carto's I need to know what that number would be.
That is a tough question A lot of it depends on the juice. The darker the juice the move it will junk up your atty. So a darker juice with a high vg base would be harder on your carto.
Most people start out with 50 50. At that percent you won't gunk your tank or get too much throat hit usually. That is the most common percentage. In fact when the sellers don't ask for percentage they automatically give 50/50. That being said, if you are having any issues with the 50 50 knowing pg carries flavor and is responsible for throat hit you can adjust from there to say a 70 30 and see if you like it. However higher vg levels can shorten the life of you r coil so unless your having issues 50/50 might be a good place to start
50/50 is sort of the default, especially in a cartomizer tank. You get some increased vapor production from the VG without it having so much that it starts really muting flavors or throat hit, and it's still thin enough to flow through the carto material well. Lots of people shift over to a much higher VG juice for dripping atomizers and such, my local store sells mainly their default, which is 50/50, and their stuff for the "advanced" crowd at 20pg/80vg. The throat hit and flavor is often so intense in a good RDA or RBA running really hot that toning things down with a little more VG doesn't hurt anything, and definitely creates a more satisfying voluminous exhale, if you happen to be in to that.
As a random aside, some people prefer even higher PG juice because it flows faster through the stuffing inside cartomizers. I know back before vivi novas, protanks, etc. became the norm when everyone used cartos the ratio was weighted more towards PG, and the typical "average" juice was more likely to be 65-100% PG just to keep it flowing in a carto without burning it up, especially if you were hitting it pretty often.
As a random aside, some people prefer even higher PG juice because it flows faster through the stuffing inside cartomizers. I know back before vivi novas, protanks, etc. became the norm when everyone used cartos the ratio was weighted more towards PG, and the typical "average" juice was more likely to be 65-100% PG just to keep it flowing in a carto without burning it up, especially if you were hitting it pretty often.
Is there a certain percentage of either of them that I should stay away because it will ruin a carto? plan on going 50/50 if not since it seems the best way to get both flavor and nice clouds, but I want to know the "Don't use this much vg in a carto"
Honestly, I wouldn't go any more than 50/50 in a carto. It just gets so thick that if you hit it too fast you'll burn up all your filler making everything taste super nasty. I'd be more likely to go like 70PG/30VG if I was really dedicated to sticking with cartos.
Or... You can thin out your juice a little with a few drops of everclear or distilled water(try both and see which one you like better). That's an old trick the people sensitive to PG would use, so that pure VG would feed properly in cartos and such. Test it in small batches though, wouldn't want to ruin a whole bottle of juice.
Or... You can thin out your juice a little with a few drops of everclear or distilled water(try both and see which one you like better). That's an old trick the people sensitive to PG would use, so that pure VG would feed properly in cartos and such. Test it in small batches though, wouldn't want to ruin a whole bottle of juice.
i have read on here before that you should not vape or smoke alcohol in any way shape or form ! Just thought I should throw that out there .....
All right, so no more than a 50/50 blend. that sounds about perfect so that I can see if I want more throat hit (Doubtful) but not lose any flavor or anything. and if it gets too bad hit 70pg 30 vg. Thanks tons guys this forum has helped a LOT on getting me the information I need and such.
I started with 50-50 & have realized I like higher VG as I don't like big TH. Usually 30 PG - 70 VG . Most companies will adjust flavors to compensate for high VG so it's great flavor, while some companies use same recipe. I would order 50-50 & 30 PG - 70 VG to see the difference.
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whoever told you that didn't have any idea what they were talking about, as many of the flavors used to make e-liquid actually use alcohol to extract the flavor, and contain very high concentrations of it. PGA is perfectly safe to use as a thinning agent, we aren't talking about using it for more than 10-15% of the final juice.
If I did want to use more VG what would be a good tank for something like that, obviously it would gunk a carto right up but I have a few evod tanks and even a nautilus, would those handle higher than 50% VG?
As a new vaper you're going to encounter a lot of PG's and 50/50 blends. Like it's been stated before, PG gives you the vapor production and the affordability. VG gets you much better flavor and IMO lasts a little longer in your tank. Downside is VG is somewhat expensive, it's harder on your coils/battery life and it wicks slower. I personally love a juice with as high of a VG amount as I can get in my Kayfun, but I tend to drip PG or 50/50s more. Find what YOU like for your setup and budget.
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Noted. Thank you everyone. Will probably be shopping 50/50's from now on since throat hit isn't something I shop for very much, and if somethings higher popping it in the nauti. I appreciate all the help.
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