VG versus PG

[Zaza]

Hello everyone! I'm from Montreal and I started using an e-cig in 2012 but quit using it since I didn't think there was enough info in it. Lately, the info has been coming in a lot. Namely, a book buy a french doctor named Philippe Presle from France hit the shelves last week. I've also discovered a shop in Montreal near me named Vaporus. I therefore equipped myself better with a V3 eGo spinner 900. I i used to smoke a pack a day since I was approximately 16 years old and since last week...my consumption of analog cigarettes is pretty much over! Only had one analog yesterday and none today!!

Now regarding the e-juice, I've noticed that a higher concentration of PG is much harsher in my throat and tightens my lungs more. I use my asthma meds more. Yet I also have another e-juice with more VG and it doesn't do that. Has anyone experienced the same thing? Do any of you have any recommendations for good canadien e-juice vendors?

Also, the first few days, I would feel shaky a bit, dizzy sometimes, and get a headache. I still wake up with a headache...

 

[The Ministry]

PG = more flavor and throat hit
VG = more vapor, less taste, but smoother on the throat.

Dizziness could be too much nicotine, try lowering your strength and remember to keep the fluids up, e-cigs will dehydrate you.

Can't help with vendors in Canada but sure someone will be able to recommend somewhere to start!

I use a 50/50 VG/PG blend and I get enough throat hit and vapor to keep me happy, your mileage may vary!

 

[jp_cfc09]

i cant use pure pg juice as you have said it is hearse on the throat and lungs, vg does not have this effect and also produces more vapour. you would need to try and find you best mix of the two really as everyone is different, i myself use 70%pg 30%vg on most of my juices but also use some that are 50%/50% when im not looking a throat hit. the mg of nicotine also will make the throat hit more harsher the higher you go.

about the headaches etc, might just be the withdraw from cigarettes or vapeing to much juice at high nicotine. what strength is the juice you use and how much have you been using in a day? make sure to drink alot of water also as it helps ALOT, helped me with sore heads/throat after coming completely off cigarettes. good luck and congrats on the switch

 

[Fisheeboy]

What you have discovered is accurate. pg is a big part of the TH. I go with 50% pg 50%vg and 36mg nic and get a really great TH. The nicotine level will affect TH a lot. And I am quite sure that it is the nicotine causing your dizziness and headaches. you will get use to it. Or perhaps a better idea would be to drop your nicotine level in your liquid. that should help with the harsh hits and headaches and dizziness. I'm way down here in Colorado so I can't help you with finding any shops in you area. Good luck Zaza and welcome to ecf.

 

[Zaza]

I use 16MG juice and used to smoke a pack a day. I have a DCT tank 3ml and it usually takes me a day and a half to empty it. What do u think? Is that a lot? I have no idea...
I've been drinking a lot of fluids + going to the gym 3-4 times a week. Cardio is getting easier. The headaches are annoying..yestersay I felt like I was starting a flu...ichy body feeling... any more input?

 

[damoose]

i would suggest trying a 100%vg juice because it almost sounds like your having a allergic reaction to the pg

 

[Fisheeboy]

Yep, could be having negative reaction to the pg. It is pretty common so not something to really worry about. Like others have suggested just go to 100%vg. still think you are feeling sickly from the nicotine. when I went up to 36mg from 24mg I had a headache for over two weeks. a little bit of nic goes a long way. from what I understand the mg of nic in the liquid is per ml not the bottle itself. think about it, that's a lot of nicotine even at 16mg.

 

[Nuchuga]

Well i dont know about the vendors but ill tell you, pg is added for replication of throat hit whereas vg is made for vapor. So, thats why its harsh on you!

 

[Zaza]

Maybe switching to 12mg/ml will be better! I'll definitely try all the advice!! 100%VG + less nic!! Thanks everyone! Open to more advice!

 

[Fisheeboy]

I think comparing nic intake to how much I used to smoke is misleading. I sit and vape and vape puff and puff. I rarely would ever smoke cigs back to back. Smoking two cigs in a row? no bueno! If you are vaping quite a bit then I would be willing to say that you getting more nicotine than what you are used to having even when you were smoking a PAD.

 

[Zaza]

The thing I find weird is I also wake up with a headache in the morning...could also be a combination of quitting smoking side-effects + too much nic! I'll wait and see a few more days ....Thanks a lot

 

[Zaza]

I think I'l definitely lower the nic!!!! Not feeling too good...

 

[patkin]

Same difference as with smokes. Some of them have more PG others more VG. Some like a milder smoke and others a stronger one. BTW, check the ingredients on your inhaler. Most likely its got a PG carrier... mine does.

 

[tj99959]

VG versus PG

Think VG and PG instead. The question then becomes "how much of each" instead of one or the other.
50/50 works out best for me YMMV.

Nicotine content is a funny deal becuse it depends on what delivery system you use. You might find 18mg perfect from a single coil carto, but 12mg to much from a dual coil carto for example.

 

[Zaza]

Since I have 30ml bottles of 16mg/ml, should I buy 6ml/mg bottles and fill my tank half/half to dilute?

 

[SmoKnoMoCigZ]

Since I have 30ml bottles of 16mg/ml, should I buy 6ml/mg bottles and fill my tank half/half to dilute?

you can go to the local pharmacy and buy vegetable glycerin and mix 1/3 tank to 2/3 of ejuice. it will weaken the flavor but will lower nic and PG. also heed what others have said about drinking A LOT of water. you should be able to search out canadian vendors that offer 20% pg 80% vg and 100% VG e juice.

 

[damoose]

here thsi will help you have an idea of what mg level eliquid you should get. 24mg e liquid in general is equal to 1 pack of cigarettes per ML so if you smoke 3 ml of 24 mg eliquid a day thats equal to 3 packs of cigarettes.

 

[Zaza]

Just went to buy 0% juice to dilute!! Will see if its a nic overload or intolerance to PG!!! I'll dilute the 15mg/ml by a third...should help I hope!!!!!! I've been feeling ill for 2 1/2 hours now! Haven't vaped or smoked analog...I'm waiting for this to go away and then I'll try again.

 

[Zaza]

Well I can officially say I had a Nic overdose. Diluted my juice and no more headache or nausea!!! HURRAY!!! Thanks everyone!

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

Glad I stumbled on this thread. Am new to this. I just received a sample of pure VG which I didn't know anything about when I ordered it. Not sure if I'm supposed to smoke it or put it on my pancakes.