VG vs. VG

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Mr.Mann

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Aw man, I was looking forward to this! I don't mean to bump a thread that wishes to be deleted, but I am curious about VG vs. VG. I have noticed many vendors that say they are using all VG but the differences in viscosity are about as vast as all the different VG/PG ratios. Has anyone else noticed this, and/or have any insight as to why some VG ain't all that VG?
 

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I swear, I have some juice (supposedly) all VG that is as thin as pg, and all VG that is thick as all get out. When I order all VG, I prefer it to not be thin like PG, I mean what's the point? I guess some people have allegies an such, but even still, I would like VG to be thick--isn't that one of its characteristics? Of course! So what gives?
 
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VG is very viscous - thick and gloopy. To make it work better in a PV it is thinned with distilled water, alcohol, or flavorings that are themselves very thin. It needs about 10% added to make it easy to use, and some add 20% water etc. Anything added will thin it out, so maybe the flavorings by themselves will fix it.

Because of this, you never order VG base at the actual strength you want it, because some comes ready-thinned, some comes gloopy, and you won't know which it is unless you have previously ordered it. Order 1 strength above what you need. If you are one of those who uses a lot of flavorings (like 20% or 25%, as some do), then order it two strengths up, as the final mix will be well-diluted. Maybe just play safe and get 100mg, then you are covered. Be careful when using 100mg base unless you know you have a high personal tolerance for nicotine.

If we are talking about premix flavor liquid here, then maybe it's best to ask the vendor if it's thick and gloopy, or thinned out. Thick VG may not work in some carto tanks unless you Dremel a couple of slots in the cartos. Also drip some thinned-out liquid into the top of a fresh new carto even when it's going in a tank - thick VG can take some time to wet out the filler.
 

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VG is very viscous - thick and gloopy. To make it work better in a PV it is thinned with distilled water, alcohol, or flavorings that are themselves very thin. It needs about 10% added to make it easy to use, and some add 20% water etc. Anything added will thin it out, so maybe the flavorings by themselves will fix it.

Because of this, you never order VG base at the actual strength you want it, because some comes ready-thinned, some comes gloopy, and you won't know which it is unless you have previously ordered it. Order 1 strength above what you need. If you are one of those who uses a lot of flavorings (like 20% or 25%, as some do), then order it two strengths up, as the final mix will be well-diluted. Maybe just play safe and get 100mg, then you are covered. Be careful when using 100mg base unless you know you have a high personal tolerance for nicotine.

If we are talking about premix flavor liquid here, then maybe it's best to ask the vendor if it's thick and gloopy, or thinned out. Thick VG may not work in some carto tanks unless you Dremel a couple of slots in the cartos. Also drip some thinned-out liquid into the top of a fresh new carto even when it's going in a tank - thick VG can take some time to wet out the filler.

Thanks for this! This is very helpful for the DIY'ers and for the average consumer. Next time I order from a vendor that I haven't ordered from, I will ask if there VG is thinned out. Thanks again Rolygate!
 
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The thinned version of VG is called "aqueous glycerine" , as mentioned it is thinned with distilled water to make it the same consistency as PG and kinder to the atomiser in your e cig. I have seen acqueous glycerine for slae at 15% water/85% VG.

Using aqueous glycerine as an extra diluent for e liquid, makes more visible vapour than PG, but it is the PG that gives the throat hit. Some people like seeing lots of "smoke" and so may add say 20% of AG to an e liquid mix, this will reduce the throat hit slightly, but it will produce lots of visible vapour when exhaled, which some people want when vaping...good for smoke rings!
 
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