PG vs VG... What mixture do you like and why

[SWOOPINGPYRO]

FWIW
VG gunking coils faster is a common misconception.

Sugars and what not in the flavoring is what gunks coils. Truth.

Coil gunk from vg
Not to put a dampener on your coils...but VG is SUGAR... and it is responsible for coil gunk. Glycerin or Glucerol or as we call it Vegetable Glycerin or VG is a Simple Sugar Alcohol or Polyol. By thinning it with distilled water or Saline Or Ethyl Alcohol i,e. ethanol, one can help diminish the rate of coil guckiness...but it doesn't eliminate it entirely.

 

[olderthandirt]

LOL

While all that you cite with regards to chemical makeup is fine and logically one would think it to follow that VG would therefore be more prone to gunking up the coil I'll go with years of real world application and results.

VG does not gunk coils any faster then PG.
Nothing to get excited about, just the way it is (-;

 

[melly710]

I like anything from 100%PG to 80PG/70VG, as long as it's mostly PG because otherwise taste suffers. It is true that VG makes more vapor though.

 

[killatoyota4569]

Thanks guys for your replys. I ordered 50/50 for my first 3 juices. I will try this and then order different ratios to see what i like best. I really want the taste of the juice. Maybe a little harshness cuz I do like to feel the smoke in me mouth when I am actually smoking ciggs. So I guess it will be test test test

Now you guys say u mix or dilute the Ejuices. How hard is it to do this??? What does one use to Dilute or mix if the ejuice is to thick or harsh or what not?

 

[Monotremata]

50/50 is what I dig so far, but havent really ventured out much further hehe. I had to pick up an emergency bottle of the Vapin Plus liquid they sell at Circle K's last week and I could tell just by looking at it in the bottle it was way higher in PG. Its almost like water and just about completely clear.. I had assumed this meant the grape flavor would be popping out too but nope. Its not bad but I aint buying it again, especially for $8 a bottle. Who knows how long its been there though, the lady at the counter didnt even know how much it was til she rung me up haha..

Im gonna wait until I pick up my DIY supplies next week before I start experimenting, but definitely gonna try a tad bit higher PG mix, as well as a stronger VG mix with extra flavoring added too..

 

[Evi|grin]

I like 50/50 for some flavors like custards but it is harder on my cartos. I normally use 70PG/30VG just because it seems to extend the life of my cartos a little.

 

[Auntie Mame]

I prefer 20 to 30 PG, the balance VG. I am not fond of a big throat hit, so this works for me.

 

[Hill]

75% vg 25% distilled water then add flavoring to taste usually 10% flavors are generally in pg so there's a bit of that in there too. I don't care for pg it irritates my throat after a while and Vg on its own is much too thick.

I get my nicotine in a VG base so that counts towards vg in my calculations

 

[AndriaD]

Thanks guys for your replys. I ordered 50/50 for my first 3 juices. I will try this and then order different ratios to see what i like best. I really want the taste of the juice. Maybe a little harshness cuz I do like to feel the smoke in me mouth when I am actually smoking ciggs. So I guess it will be test test test

Now you guys say u mix or dilute the Ejuices. How hard is it to do this??? What does one use to Dilute or mix if the ejuice is to thick or harsh or what not?

if you like that "throat hit" tingly feeling, then you may be disappointed with the 50/50; you really need at least 70, 75% PG to get much of that.

You can dilute with distilled water, or high-proof grain alcohol, like everclear or golden grain or even high-proof vodka, and I guess 151 rum would work too. I hear that using alcohol to dilute makes it harsher, more throat hit. I use water, if the juice is 50/50 or more VG; I usually start at about 10% dilution, but have used as much as 25% dilution for very high VG stuff. It thins it so it doesn't suffocate me or give me that nasty thick congested feeling in my throat.

Andria

 

[Despraci]

For my Kayfuns I like 50/50 or 20/80vg. Depends on the flavor. I have one Vanilla Mint that needs to be 20/80 or the mint is too much for me. I keep some max VG around for when I use my RDA and sub-ohm.

 

[NathanielFT]

Max VG, I love the smoothness of the vape and the clouds i get. The whole PG is better for flavour is either a myth or just no longer true, i've tried PG liquids that lack flavour, my favourite juices are MAX/100% VG and the flavour is full and strong

 

[AndriaD]

Max VG, I love the smoothness of the vape and the clouds i get. The whole PG is better for flavour is either a myth or just no longer true, i've tried PG liquids that lack flavour, my favourite juices are MAX/100% VG and the flavour is full and strong

Not a myth, but probably not true of all juices -- I've tasted plenty of high-PG juices that barely tasted like anything at all.

However the whole "VG is terrible for some people's lungs" is absolutely NOT a myth. The taste is really irrelevant if you end up suffocated to death. Anyone who has any kind of compromise to their airways (asthma, the whole spectrum of COPD, a bad cold/flu) is running a serious risk vaping high-VG ejuice, and no one seems concerned about it at all; all I ever see is all this "Pg can irritate" crap; maybe so, but irritation is an order of magnitude less severe than suffocation!

Andria

 

[killatoyota4569]

Thanks guys, will try different ratios on my next few Ejuice buys..

Now where can I find NET Ejuices?? I went to a few sites and am not sure if they are NET or Synthetic. Thanks again

 

[NathanielFT]

Not a myth, but probably not true of all juices -- I've tasted plenty of high-PG juices that barely tasted like anything at all.

However the whole "VG is terrible for some people's lungs" is absolutely NOT a myth. The taste is really irrelevant if you end up suffocated to death. Anyone who has any kind of compromise to their airways (asthma, the whole spectrum of COPD, a bad cold/flu) is running a serious risk vaping high-VG ejuice, and no one seems concerned about it at all; all I ever see is all this "Pg can irritate" crap; maybe so, but irritation is an order of magnitude less severe than suffocation!

Andria

Really? I have asthma but haven't ever had issues with vaping max vg, my breathing is much better and i haven't even needed my pump in months. I've never been warned of this either so will defo do some homework. Thanks for the info

 

[Alien Traveler]

VG is SUGAR... and it is responsible for coil gunk. Glycerin or Glucerol or as we call it Vegetable Glycerin or VG is a Simple Sugar Alcohol

So what? Iron and mercury are both metals. A penny and a dollar are both money. But somehow these things are quite different. Classification as “sugar alcohol” means nothing when coils are of concern. And, by the way, if we wish we can classify methanol and ethylene glycol as sugar alcohols; any gunk from them?

 

[amoret]

Late to this discussion, but I prefer at least 70% PG, because I don't like sweet flavors, and VG definitely does taste sweet.