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Vision Eternity RBA - my opinion - what about yours?

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larktdl

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Well, I got this unit last Friday from Vaporus.com

Pro === Lots of flavor and vapor ONLY IF it is RE-WICKED RE-COILED PROPERLY !!! (not sure this is a pro)
Pro === Contrary to reviews on the web, it does not leak and does not have any fragile parts
Pro === Works well in drip mode or tank mode
Pro === Likes cotton wicks / yarn
Pro === If you would like to drip more than 5 drops at a time, this could be the solution for you
Pro === Looks great

Con ===== Difficult to rebuild - if you don't have any patience this is not the RBA for you
Con ===== You need good eyes or magnifying glasses to rebuild ( like pbusardo )
Con ===== Works with 36 and 34 awg, anything bigger does not work ???
Con ===== Price seems a bit on the high end of the scale
Con ===== Could be me only ,,, if using silica fiber for the wick --- yuck, yuck, yuck
Con ===== SS Mesh wick ,,, good luck making this RBA work with SS mesh
Con ===== 35 - 40 drops in to the tank when dripping ??? 25 - 30 max on a new fill, maybe 20 on a refill.

I like it, now if I only had a working mod to use with it :)
I am sure that there are better and cheaper RBAs in vape world but I got it, now I have to use it ...
 

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Con ===== Difficult to rebuild - if you don't have any patience this is not the RBA for you

--This is my first venture into RBA's, I don't find it that difficult at all. Quite easy actually. If you don't have patience and like to fiddle NO RBA is for you.

Con ===== You need good eyes or magnifying glasses to rebuild ( like pbusardo )

--Maybe it's my new glasses that make it easy enough for me to see

Con ===== Works with 36 and 34 awg, anything bigger does not work ???

--Mine is coiled with 32 right now

Con ===== Price seems a bit on the high end of the scale

--$29.99 is what I paid for mine.... now ProjectGuys Z atty Pro @ $169.95 is the highend of the scale... $29 bucks for a RBA of this quality is a steal.

Con ===== 35 - 40 drops in to the tank when dripping ??? 25 - 30 max on a new fill, maybe 20 on a refill.

25-20 drops in a dripping atty is definately a PRO not a con... even if they misrepresented a little.. they may have estimated 2 ml @ approx 20 drops per ml or something like that.



Personally I think this Atty is fantastic and I haven't even tried "tank mode". Well thats my :2c:
 

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Right you are on all points, I write before I think. So, you did manage to get it to work with 32 awg and no problems? Good to know. The moral of the story is ... don't believe everything you hear/read in a review. All in all I am enjoying this RBA however I have to admit getting it wrapped right and the wire in to the slots takes effort for me but I am getting better.

How many wraps are you doing with the 32 awg?
 

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I literally just finished my second homemade coil... the other ones with the set are gone sadly... when you say "wraps" do you mean coils or coils plus the half way around into the post...anyway i have 4 coils around three strands of 1mm cotton wick, tests at 1.8 ohms, been trying to get a 2.4 though... will come eventually I guess.
 

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All in all I am enjoying this RBA however I have to admit getting it wrapped right and the wire in to the slots takes effort for me but I am getting better.

I use an straightened out paperclip to give the wick some rigidness to assist in wrapping, I actually don't remove the paperclip until on the posts and clipped. Also helps with not wrapping too tight as there is a slight space for the wick to expand into when you pull out the paperclip.
 

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I use an straightened out paperclip to give the wick some rigidness to assist in wrapping, I actually don't remove the paperclip until on the posts and clipped. Also helps with not wrapping too tight as there is a slight space for the wick to expand into when you pull out the paperclip.

Great minds think alike, I figured out the paper clip technique after my first unsuccessful attempt.
I think with 32 awg you are going to need 5 wraps to get over 2 ohms. I have used 36 awg with 6 wraps and it is pretty decent. Currently using 32 awg with 4 wraps on 3.7 volt device, it is okay but I need my new mod (arrival next week) to pump it up a couple of notches.

I still like my Novas but the Eternity is becoming my favourite ...
 

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Great minds think alike, I figured out the paper clip technique after my first unsuccessful attempt.
I think with 32 awg you are going to need 5 wraps to get over 2 ohms. I have used 36 awg with 6 wraps and it is pretty decent. Currently using 32 awg with 4 wraps on 3.7 volt device, it is okay but I need my new mod (arrival next week) to pump it up a couple of notches.

I still like my Novas but the Eternity is becoming my favourite ...

I learned a tip for winding coils the other night... and I'm still rolling it around in my mind trying to perfect it even more.... but here's the idea....

Hold wick material tightly against a skinny wood screw.... the wrap your coil using the screw threads as a guide for *perfectly* spaced coils. Gently turn the screw out and fluff wick material. Voila!

I've been looking up split bolts, tap sets, and hollow orthopaedic screws all afternoon. lol..... now I just need to find an orthopaedic surgeon who wants to sell me a couple!

-- Thanks to Watch on Vapenet for sharing the original idea with me....
 

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I learned a tip for winding coils the other night... and I'm still rolling it around in my mind trying to perfect it even more.... but here's the idea....

Hold wick material tightly against a skinny wood screw.... the wrap your coil using the screw threads as a guide for *perfectly* spaced coils. Gently turn the screw out and fluff wick material. Voila!

I've been looking up split bolts, tap sets, and hollow orthopaedic screws all afternoon. lol..... now I just need to find an orthopaedic surgeon who wants to sell me a couple!

-- Thanks to Watch on Vapenet for sharing the original idea with me....

Great idea, I will have to give it a try
 

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I learned a tip for winding coils the other night... and I'm still rolling it around in my mind trying to perfect it even more.... but here's the idea....

Hold wick material tightly against a skinny wood screw.... the wrap your coil using the screw threads as a guide for *perfectly* spaced coils. Gently turn the screw out and fluff wick material. Voila!

I've been looking up split bolts, tap sets, and hollow orthopaedic screws all afternoon. lol..... now I just need to find an orthopaedic surgeon who wants to sell me a couple!

-- Thanks to Watch on Vapenet for sharing the original idea with me....

...hmmmmm... maybe use a file to groove the paperclip on one side then you just twist it a bit to slide it out... hmmmm....
 

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...hmmmmm... maybe use a file to groove the paperclip on one side then you just twist it a bit to slide it out... hmmmm....

The orthopaedic screws looked really promising.... threads are a nice width (it appears) and they're totally hollow..... so twist and push coil material inside an inch or so..... wrap coil at end of screw... then gently turn screw out 'til it's free of the coil..... holding wicking material and pull screw off it...... in my mind, it's a perfect VOILA!... wonder if it'd be as slick in practice.... again, I need to make friends with an ortho surgeon now hahahaha.

After all the bru-ha-ha about trying to import "medical devices" I don't even wanna try importing these, though I did find them pretty cheap.

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Threaded tubing has equal promise, but most I found has really fine threads, which would put your coils too close together. The orthopaedic screws have wider threads, I'm guessing so bone material can knit nicely and securely around it.
 

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The orthopaedic screws looked really promising.... threads are a nice width (it appears) and they're totally hollow..... so twist and push coil material inside an inch or so..... wrap coil at end of screw... then gently turn screw out 'til it's free of the coil..... holding wicking material and pull screw off it...... in my mind, it's a perfect VOILA!... wonder if it'd be as slick in practice.... again, I need to make friends with an ortho surgeon now hahahaha.

After all the bru-ha-ha about trying to import "medical devices" I don't even wanna try importing these, though I did find them pretty cheap.

----- edit ------

Threaded tubing has equal promise, but most I found has really fine threads, which would put your coils too close together. The orthopaedic screws have wider threads, I'm guessing so bone material can knit nicely and securely around it.

Yea I took a look at those screws, very promising but gonna be hard to source, and I bet there's a learning curve/technique to getting it right. so far the paper clip has been working well, and they are a little easier to get my hands on:)
 

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Yea I took a look at those screws, very promising but gonna be hard to source, and I bet there's a learning curve/technique to getting it right. so far the paper clip has been working well, and they are a little easier to get my hands on:)

... could try a commonw "awl" needle as well; & there "might" be one available with sorta "twist" threading on the entry end. As to the Vision Eternity... absolutely love the thing... so that makes "3-of-us" in Canada (which is pretty impressive, cause it's at least twice the size of the Canadian Navy, yea?)
 

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The Eternity RBA does put out the vapor but IMO is slightly lacking in the flavor department. It is a fairly reliable and well built unit. After using it for 3 + weeks I can say that rebuilding the coil is easy and no longer a RPITB.

Tried a screw a couple of times to wrap the wick but it is problematic. Still using a paper clip to support the cotton yarn for the wrapping process. This works best for me.

Now I really want to use SS mesh for the wick in the Eternity ,,, tried a couple of times but ultimately the coil failed even after using the rolling paper method, Jack Frost method, etc, etc. I will try ss mesh again later this week.
 

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It is tricky to get it over 2 ohms. You can do 4/5 wraps (meaning on the bottom you will see 4 parts of the coil, on top you see 5 parts of the coil ???)

I use 36 awg nichrome ----> with 4/5 wraps pushing 4 + ohms.

For my Novas, I use the 36 awg wrapped 4/5. According to my Vamo the resistance is 4.5 ohms.

If I do the same wrap using 34 awg, the resistance is 2.5 ohms

For my better half, I wrap her Stardusts using 34 awg nichrome at 3/4 (2 ohms).
 
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