Vision Eternity Rebuildable Atomizer Video Review (LordDavon)

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Tezcatlipoca

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I normally enjoy your reviews, but if I may offer some constructive criticism, I'm a little distressed by your statement that "type-A tanks are for novices," and "most people grow out of them." I use type-A tanks (among other types of delivery systems) and I've been vaping for over 3 years -- despite what my sig and ECF join date imply, I wouldn't consider myself a novice at this point. For me and many others, this type of tank system fills an important niche as it is more portable, durable, and convenient than many systems on the market. I realize that it ultimately boils down to personal preference and these tank systems seem to inspire love/hate reactions, but I don't think that necessarily makes type-A tank users novices. Furthermore, there are several notable rebuildable devices that use this tank system such as the Bulli A2-T (which I use), the Mark-T Infinity (which the Vision Eternity is clearly based on), the My-T, and the Patriot. These are not "novice" devices, and I doubt many users of these devices would consider themselves novices either.

One of the major selling points of the Eternity is that, like the Mark-T Infinity, it can be used interchangeably between tank mode and drip mode. Now I realize that this review is an exception since your sample broke, and my point is not to defend the Eternity here. However, hypothetically (had your device not malfunctioned), wouldn't it be important to review the device in both modes, since that is one of its defining features? If, for example, I were to review a Z-Max and I had no interest in variable wattage and only reviewed it in variable-voltage mode, we couldn't really call that a thorough review. Again, I don't mean this as any sort of personal attack and I certainly see that the fragility of this device probably didn't warrant a more in-depth review, but I hope that if and when you review Eternity v.2.0, you'll start from a more holistic and open vantage point so that we "novices" can see how it works in tank mode! :)
 

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I normally enjoy your reviews, but if I may offer some constructive criticism, I'm a little distressed by your statement that "type-A tanks are for novices," and "most people grow out of them." I use type-A tanks (among other types of delivery systems) and I've been vaping for over 3 years -- despite what my sig and ECF join date imply, I wouldn't consider myself a novice at this point. For me and many others, this type of tank system fills an important niche as it is more portable, durable, and convenient than many systems on the market. I realize that it ultimately boils down to personal preference and these tank systems seem to inspire love/hate reactions, but I don't think that necessarily makes type-A tank users novices. Furthermore, there are several notable rebuildable devices that use this tank system such as the Bulli A2-T (which I use), the Mark-T Infinity (which the Vision Eternity is clearly based on), the My-T, and the Patriot. These are not "novice" devices, and I doubt many users of these devices would consider themselves novices either.

One of the major selling points of the Eternity is that, like the Mark-T Infinity, it can be used interchangeably between tank mode and drip mode. Now I realize that this review is an exception since your sample broke, and my point is not to defend the Eternity here. However, hypothetically (had your device not malfunctioned), wouldn't it be important to review the device in both modes, since that is one of its defining features? If, for example, I were to review a Z-Max and I had no interest in variable wattage and only reviewed it in variable-voltage mode, we couldn't really call that a thorough review. Again, I don't mean this as any sort of personal attack and I certainly see that the fragility of this device probably didn't warrant a more in-depth review, but I hope that if and when you review Eternity v.2.0, you'll start from a more holistic and open vantage point so that we "novices" can see how it works in tank mode! :)

I apologize. I did not mean to offend. It was pure ignorance, on my part.
 

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LordDavon great vid buddy even if it did look like the most frustrating vid you've ever done lol I have been waiting for a review on the eternity since the release for this exact reason. This is why IMO you and/or any reviewer are the greatest resource to any vapor noob and/or vet alike :) I know for me personally I don't buy anything until I see a vid from a trusted reviewer because in my situation I can't afford to buy a 30 dollar product that doesn't work. Granted not everyone's situation is the same.
So anyway your vid pretty much does it for me man.
The posts ....what where they thinking! that alone pretty much confirmed I will never buy it. I would lose that "rectangle" the second I opened the box lol With that aside either way it just isn't practical for a RBA, period.
This is a perfect example of "Form over Function" and for me Function always wins.
Thanks LordDavon great review.
 

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I'm having a significantly different experience with the Eternity thus far. I've only had it a few days, but it doesn't appear to be nearly as flawed or "fragile" as your review indicates. Perhaps it's just me though...

It could mean that some are stronger than others. That would be a good thing, since it means that not everyone will have a failing post. Hopefully, the next revision will be better/stronger.
 

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Using the wring gauge wire, & forcing the connectors onto the posts anyway couldn't have helped...

I noticed that early on, so that's not a cause on mine, but it is an issue with the units. That's why I posted in the GV forums this morning:

"Not only does the positive post weaken due to pressure, it limits the gauge wire that can be used in the unit. Most can't fit easily between the post and the "boot", and require more force to install. Putting pressure on a post, centered in a circle of silica, ins't a great idea unless it is reinforced below the silica."

But, it does bother me that you can't use anything less than 34 gauge wire. Hopefully the replacement bases will correct this.
 

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I had the exact same experience as LD. I ordered two, and one came in with a post so wobbly that it leaked right out of the box. The other one seemed solid and vaped fine until the coil popped after less than a day's use. After changing the coil with the one pre-wired to the square thingies, it started leaking and wobbling, thouth not as bad as the first.

I verified the leak was thru the seal on the positive post, not the air tube or anything else.

The seal is eventually goinig to fail with the frequent coil changes that the 36 ga wire will require. If it's used beyond the leakage point, I'm afraid that further degradation to the seal is going to cause shorts, because that cheap, inadequate silicon seal is the only thing seaparating the postive post from the base (which is the ground leg). Further, a loose post can wobble enough so that the positive post comes in contact with either the air tube in the base, or the side of the mod, again with the possibility of causing a short.

It's a shame because other than the subjectively cool feel of the vape, the flavor and vapor production was excellent. I too tried to like it, but in the end it's just another badly implemented and potentially dangerous chineese POS.
 

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Just got 2 of these in despite the review above. I should have known better. Both leak right out of the box with 30 drops. Cannot figure out why but they do leak like a sieve! by the time they stopped leaking I had about 30 puffs left in each. I tried to refill but they started leaking immediately. I guess I can just mark it up as a learning experience and next time I will listen to the reviews... good or bad!
 

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Ok so I went to a site and it says I have to measure the coils with a multimeter before using, or else it could explode or harm the battery.. anyone can verify that?

Explosion... seriously???

If you put together a coil that is shorted, there is a very distinct possibility you could cause a battery to overheat and potentially burst. The vendor is just trying to cover his bases and warn you that some minor electrical knowledge is needed before attempting to build your own coil to prevent potential damage to yourself and/or your equipment.
 

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I watched this review when I first got my Eternity, and had no idea what the OP was talking about, in regard to the post being weak.

Well, now I know exactly what he is talking about. I replaced the coil THREE times, that's it, with the included wire, so I didn't use oversized wire or anything.

You are forced to apply an amount of pressure to seat the blocks that will end damaging the post. Leaking wasn't the issue on mine, shorting is. My atty is now a 30 dollar paperweight. Whatver is going on below that post is causing a short.

I'm crossing vision off my list of acceptable companies. Never, ever buying anotherVision product. They have the nerve to put something to market that has such an obvious, serious design flaw? That's just bad business and shows a complete lack of care for their customers.
 

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I'm crossing vision off my list of acceptable companies. Never, ever buying anotherVision product. They have the nerve to put something to market that has such an obvious, serious design flaw? That's just bad business and shows a complete lack of care for their customers.

Wow.......just Wow........
I owned a Pinto once and even a Vega........ Both were obvious junk but I didn't right off Ford or GM. Vision has put some pretty decent items on the market and Every high volume manufacturer has made mistakes.
Feedback on an issue fixes problems in subsequent production.

Some times I think we just forget the rest of the world and take everything as a personal attack.

Happy Holidays all
 

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Maybe I've just been lucky so far, but I have two Eternitys—one in drip mode and the other in tank mode—and both are working perfectly. I've re-built both of them at least five times, and no issues at all. I normally fill the dripper with 25-30 drops (more than that and it will leak through the air tube); with the tank mode, I fill the drip well with 25-30 drops and then put on the tank. It will not start feeding from the tank until the well is almost dry, so I get about 2.5 ml total in the tank mode. They may all go poop tomorrow, but as of today, they're really sweet ... :laugh:
 
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