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anyone else have gurgling with the vision giants? second one that does this, i'm not overfilling, purposely underfilling it, it works fine for a bit, and then i got to take a puff and its like i'm sucking through the juice in there. temporary fix is to suck the juice up into the mouthpiece and then i can vape, or take it off the battery and blow it out the bottom. i can't get through a full giant fill without this happening on two different ones already. the vision regulars don't exhibit this, is anyone else having this happen?
 

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the plug is tricky to get right. too tight on the cup and u will get burnt hits. too loose and it will flood the cup. you gotta get it just right. im imagining this is the problem you may be having. what i do for the magic sweet spot is put it all the way down on the cup and then lift it up a bit.

also this is my first post to gotvapes. long time lurker and buyer of the gotvapes crew. love ya all
 

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and damnit rob y do u have so many problems with the visions? they are magnificent. i do not know for the life of me how you pop the coils. must be your batt. i have 10 in rotation that i have all burned 3-5 times and they just dont die ever. i do however use my provari at 3.3 volts to dry burn. never tried dry burning them at 3.7
 
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well I never removed the cup seal from either vision giant. and its not like you can smoke it away, once it starts, if you try to suck, you are sucking through liquid and the only way i've been able to get it back to normal is just to take it off the bat and blow through the bottom. it doesn't happen with the regulars, i can't for the life of me understand that one.
 

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... every vision i have gotten i have to insert the plug myself... they don't come seated properly. I haven't gotten one that was. the last 4 i have gotten they have come off when i took off the mouthpiece, lol. Don't make me find out where you are in florida to show u how to use these properly, lol, j/k

edit: this goes for every size ive gotten..
 
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usually I fill and smoke, although the last regular I opened had a deformed plug, it got crushed by the mouthpiece instead of the nipple going in the hole so I pulled that one off and replaced with the one from my old one.

but at any rate, i've taken the plug off my old vision giant and replaced it a couple of times in the short span that it lived and still same problem, likewise did the same with my old vision regular and never a problem with the regulars, but the giants always end up filling with fluid.
 

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I've had a bit of gurgling on all of them once in a blue moon. Basically, the wick overwicks. That can happen even without lifting the cup seal. These wicks rock. Another scenario is when the cup seal has been lifted a tad too far, and the carto is laid on its side - then the juice can get into the cup past the wicks. Either way you get a bit of flooding. Doesn't bother me in the least - better that (waaaaaaaay better) than dry hits. And. for me, it doesn't happen often enough to worry about.

When it happens, I put it on my ProVari, raise the voltage a bit (maybe two points or so), and it's gone in five or so drags. Ditto on any VV device.

If I am out (I don't drag the ProVari around, it's too heavy), I take several deep, long, slow drags (don't drag too strongly, or it might spit into your mouth) in quick succession (up to ten sometimes), and it clears it right up. No biggie. Now that I got my Ultimo, I put that on 4.0 - I usually vape at 3.7.
 

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interesting you say that about wicking, both regulars I have used wick fine, the giants don't wick that well though, neither one I've tried wicks very well, once it gets below like half full, I usually have to tip it up so the juice gets near the cup in order to get decent vapes.

That has to do with the height. Fluxos do the same thing - you gotta tip the XLs once you get past the half-full line, while the mini-Fluxos vape to the bottom with no tilting. That's why I stick with Visions Regular almost exclusively. Don't have to tip those.
 

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no matter what you need to tilt once in a while on the giants, you need to realize that while the visions work extremly well, the coil is on top and while the wicks do their job they arent mechanical and liquid can only go up so much on its own, so tilt them like you would ash a cigarette to keep the coil moist
 

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That has to do with the height. Fluxos do the same thing - you gotta tip the XLs once you get past the half-full line, while the mini-Fluxos vape to the bottom with no tilting. That's why I stick with Visions Regular almost exclusively. Don't have to tip those.

I dint find I have to tilt the minis either.

Sent from my G2...so please excuse the spelling errors, correct gets the best of me.
 

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I dint find I have to tilt the minis either.

True. They are the same height as the Regulars, just fatter. I use them once in a while for my favorite juices. In general, it looks like short and fat is the way to go. I was looking at the pics Bad posted of new stuff, and it looks like they have short, fat clearo in the pipeline, and with four wicks, too - just like some of us were talking about awhile back. Dual-coil clearo - wouldn't that be great? I hope my eyes are not deceiving me... :)
 

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Since I've been using CE2s, whether they are Fluxos or Visions, I've gotten into the habit of tipping them every few puffs. It's just one of those things I do without thinking about it. Sort of like flicking the ash off an analog.

That's a great habit - Bad is always saying we should be doing it. :)

Me, I'm just pathologically lazy. I used to lose ash off my cigs all the time, forgetting to tap. Generally, though, I don't vape vertically but at an angle closer to horizontal than to vertical (that's probably why I flood them once in while), so I don't have that much of a problem with Fluxos XL anymore (I love my purple, so I use purple Fluxos, tilt or no tilt), though when I first started buying them, I had a horrible time with them - was writing to Daniel, like, every other day. Threw out a whole bunch of them because I couldn't get them to work right. :facepalm:

I also deemed myself the Queen of Murphy's Law as applied to clearos (still can't figure out how to use Sapphires properly) - until I med Rob, that is. Sorry, Rob, no insult intended, but things do seem to go wrong for you rather often. :) No fault of yours, I'm sure - just rotten luck. I sympathize. Like I said, I'm the same with Sapphires. The first three boxes I got, five of them emptied their full load of juice all over my desk. I was flooding them left and right. Some of them acquired such tight draw that I turned purple trying to use them. Etc, etc. I'm now afraid to touch them. And yet lots and lots of folks love them - obviously it's me, somehow. LOL
 

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True. They are the same height as the Regulars, just fatter. I use them once in a while for my favorite juices. In general, it looks like short and fat is the way to go. I was looking at the pics Bad posted of new stuff, and it looks like they have short, fat clearo in the pipeline, and with four wicks, too - just like some of us were talking about awhile back. Dual-coil clearo - wouldn't that be great? I hope my eyes are not deceiving me... :)

Those are the kind of words to give me vaping wet dreams, short and fat definately works best for me. Hope they come in and get posted to the site for sale before the new years.

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same thing happens to me with saphires, they work great for a little bit(when they work they are probably the best) then the draw gets harder and harder and the start to flood etc, you can blow them out but that doesn't last for too long, and everytime i've tried to clean them, they never work the same again.

i'm vaping a vision regular now, its working well, never starts gurgling like the giant one, but i love the giant because im not refilling every 45 minutes. as for the xl fluxes, you do have to tip them, but for me its only when they are really at the bottom. tipping the giant is no biggee, i just wonder if thats why it starts getting the stuff in the tube. based on the design, i can only see it getting through the cup seal which makes me think it isn't as snug on the giants as on the regulars maybe.

That's a great habit - Bad is always saying we should be doing it. :)

Me, I'm just pathologically lazy. I used to lose ash off my cigs all the time, forgetting to tap. Generally, though, I don't vape vertically but at an angle closer to horizontal than to vertical (that's probably why I flood them once in while), so I don't have that much of a problem with Fluxos XL anymore (I love my purple, so I use purple Fluxos, tilt or no tilt), though when I first started buying them, I had a horrible time with them - was writing to Daniel, like, every other day. Threw out a whole bunch of them because I couldn't get them to work right. :facepalm:

I also deemed myself the Queen of Murphy's Law as applied to clearos (still can't figure out how to use Sapphires properly) - until I med Rob, that is. Sorry, Rob, no insult intended, but things do seem to go wrong for you rather often. :) No fault of yours, I'm sure - just rotten luck. I sympathize. Like I said, I'm the same with Sapphires. The first three boxes I got, five of them emptied their full load of juice all over my desk. I was flooding them left and right. Some of them acquired such tight draw that I turned purple trying to use them. Etc, etc. I'm now afraid to touch them. And yet lots and lots of folks love them - obviously it's me, somehow. LOL
 

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... tipping the giant is no biggee, i just wonder if thats why it starts getting the stuff in the tube. based on the design, i can only see it getting through the cup seal which makes me think it isn't as snug on the giants as on the regulars maybe.

That could be, I guess... I haven't tried the giant - I don't have the attention scope to deal with one liquid for that long. :D On the minis and regulars, I'm pretty sure the liquid is getting through the wicks or around the wicks through the wick holes. For me, if it happens, it happens when I hold it close to horizontal, or leave it on the table when it's full, so that would make sense.

I used to lift the cup seal a bit, but i don't do that anymore, they don't need it - that stopped the gurgling incidents almost entirely.
 

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Since I've been using CE2s, whether they are Fluxos or Visions, I've gotten into the habit of tipping them every few puffs. It's just one of those things I do without thinking about it. Sort of like flicking the ash off an analog.

I've been involved with the CE2's (E2's) from day one.

I've seen just about Every mod there is for a CE2 on the ECF to improve wicking. Some have worked and some haven't. But Tilting the PV Up when taking a Hit has been the one thing that has proven to be the Most efficient and Clearly the Easies method By Far.

As you mentioned, It's just become one of those things that I don't think about anymore.

Tilt the PV.
Watch the e-Liquid Pool around the cup.
Take a Hit.
Repeat.
 
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