Vision GRANDE from gotvapes

[exodus454]

I really haven't seen much info floating around on the web about these guys.

According to gotvapes website they're basically 4 wick, 4.5ml, giant CE4s (CE4?). I've never tried any of the CE style cartos/tanks and was interested in trying the vision stone tank. They're sold out, I saw these and figured what the hell and ordered 3 of them.

I'm really done with filler cartos for now since they've frustrated me to high hell, hopefully these will fit the bill. My logic is hopefully that 4 wicks will mean less wicking issues than other CE style cartos. I could be completely wrong but I guess we'll see.

They can't be that terrible, the only two colors they have in stock right now were green and clear.

Has anyone tried these? How are they?

 

[washvap]

They might or might not be your cup of tea. Some love them while others feel that there is indeed wicking issues. Which can be solved by inverting it so that the coil gets the juice it needs. Also, that will solve the dry hits that some complain about.

Another factor that comes into play is flavor. Personally the flavor I get from CE2's (when I tried it) was pretty good. Comparable to my ego-t type B tanks. Although, some have complained that they taste like plastic or that it was muted.

Either way, if you already ordered them then you will be the judge. As to how good that they will be to you.

Oh, what's the ohms and device you plan to use it on? Any particular voltage? What is the flavor & PG/VG% your gonna be using in it?

 

[exodus454]

They might or might not be your cup of tea. Some love them while others feel that there is indeed wicking issues. Which can be solved by inverting it so that the coil gets the juice it needs. Also, that will solve the dry hits that some complain about.

Another factor that comes into play is flavor. Personally the flavor I get from CE2's (when I tried it) was pretty good. Comparable to my ego-t type B tanks. Although, some have complained that they taste like plastic or that it was muted.

Either way, if you already ordered them then you will be the judge. As to how good that they will be to you.

Oh, what's the ohms and device you plan to use it on? Any particular voltage? What is the flavor & PG/VG% your gonna be using in it?

I used to have an Ego-T and found the flavor in that to be severely muted. Lately I've been using either LR Boge's or LR 808 Fusions on my Buzzpro with an M1A1 tank. The tank was a huge improvement, but the reliability and consistency of the cartos is still pretty meh. I'm also noticing the polyfill taste more and more these days. I'm coming up on a year of vaping in a month or so.

The tanks I got are supposed to be 2.6 ohms. I usually vape anywhere from 50/50 to 100%VG, this tank is probably going to see 70/30 for it's inaugural run. Usually with 2.0 ohm cartos I vape around 4.4-5.0v.

If I end up having to tip the tank over every so often I don't really think that's a huge issue if the flavor is improved over your standard carto. I don't chainvape most of the time either unless I'm drinking.

If the flavor is better and it ends up lasting me at least a week or two, I'll be impressed save any major wicking issues. Right now I'm getting a solid 2-3 days out of a carto before it's performance starts diminishing noticeably. I usually vape thicker, sweet (but not dark) juices.

 

[washvap]

Yeah, it's pretty much a gamble sometimes with cartos. Although, it's kind of odd to hear that your having consistency issues. But yeah, there are people that are very sensitive to the flavor to the filler material. Probably best that you move onto other things now that you've gotten to that point.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!

That's awesome and I hope you continue to have success for years to come! You should be getting close to vet status too. Will be waiting to give you your official welcome and congrats in your thread. When the time comes.

2.6 ohms are generally better for 4.2-5V. so, it'll be perfect for your BP. The problem that I'm seeing right now is the high VG juices that you have. Since CE2's generally don't do well with those types. It'll create more of a wicking problem and perhaps, will taste burnt as well. If you have some PGA or distilled water. Then a couple of drops will thin the juice out. You might or might not notice the slight decrease in flavor if you decide to do that.

That's a bit high of a voltage to run a 2 ohm carto. If it was run at 5V then that's 12.5 watts. Which might explain why you taste the filler material a bit more. Or that you notice inconsistencies with your experience with cartos. But, if you feel like you get a good vape from it then that's what counts. There are a lot of people that like their vapes really hot. Although, anything above 12 watts is a bit much though.

Yeah, tipping it over really isn't too bad at all. I would suggest giving them a few minutes rest after about 5 hits or so, if your chainvaping. That's so that the coil has time to rest. If you push it past it's limits then the coil will pop. Which won't be a good thing when your drinking.

 

[exodus454]

Yeah, it's pretty much a gamble sometimes with cartos. Although, it's kind of odd to hear that your having consistency issues. But yeah, there are people that are very sensitive to the flavor to the filler material. Probably best that you move onto other things now that you've gotten to that point.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!

That's awesome and I hope you continue to have success for years to come! You should be getting close to vet status too. Will be waiting to give you your official welcome and congrats in your thread. When the time comes.

2.6 ohms are generally better for 4.2-5V. so, it'll be perfect for your BP. The problem that I'm seeing right now is the high VG juices that you have. Since CE2's generally don't do well with those types. It'll create more of a wicking problem and perhaps, will taste burnt as well. If you have some PGA or distilled water. Then a couple of drops will thin the juice out. You might or might not notice the slight decrease in flavor if you decide to do that.

That's a bit high of a voltage to run a 2 ohm carto. If it was run at 5V then that's 12.5 watts. Which might explain why you taste the filler material a bit more. Or that you notice inconsistencies with your experience with cartos. But, if you feel like you get a good vape from it then that's what counts. There are a lot of people that like their vapes really hot. Although, anything above 12 watts is a bit much though.

Yeah, tipping it over really isn't too bad at all. I would suggest giving them a few minutes rest after about 5 hits or so, if your chainvaping. That's so that the coil has time to rest. If you push it past it's limits then the coil will pop. Which won't be a good thing when your drinking.

Ha! I hadn't even considered vet status. That's pretty awesome. I haven't touched a cigarette in almost a year and have NO plans of changing that. I can't wait.

I do like a hot vape though. I find that the boges will handle the higher voltage much better than the fusions will. The fusions have a point where they just start tasting overly hot (around 4.5v) whereas the boges will just keep going without any ill effect. I've never been able to burn up a boge LR on my buzz yet. Believe me, from all the math I've done I shouldn't need anywhere near 5v but that's what works best surprisingly. I wish I could do the higher PG juices but they really roast the crap out of my throat.

I have my first bottle of ecto plasma on the way from JV in a reduced PG blend and that's probably what I'm going to use initially. Honestly if they have wicking issues with some 100%VG juices I probably won't blame it on the wicking ability of the tank/carto. VG juices from my experience tends to vary wildly in viscosity so I guess time will tell. I've had VG juices before that look like PG and some that are like molasses.. the current juices I have from blue mist don't seem overly thick.

I just hope I didn't waste my money. The whole CE crowd seems to be in the love or hate crowd with not much of an in-between. I think that's what's kept me from trying them for so long. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised but I've learned to not get my hopes up, unfortunately.

 

[kelleymcm]

Hey I have one of those...sorry I have NOT tried it yet tho ...
but I love ce's & they are pretty much all I use
& I also diy my own 100% vg ,I do thin w/dist.water or use pre-thinned base
& have no wicking problems, with any of them .

The trick to ce's is to understand HOW they work ...
the wicks have to be lined up w/the small cutouts in the side of the cup, so the juice can travel correctly thru the wick .

If you are getting dry hits...
#1 your wicks are getting pinched off cuz your cup is NOT lined up right & the wicks are NOT in the little cutouts. & OR
#2 your coil cup is to tight (pushed down too far) & you can lift it up a little & try again ...
if wick is pinched too tight, the coil cups can choke off the wicking .

So I always take coil cup off & check b-4 1st use ....use a pin with small hook bent into the end & lift up gently.

I also drip 2-3 drops of juice on coil b-4 setting cup back in place, making sure the wicks & cup lineup right .
and then blow excess thru on napkin after I get it back together & b-4 I put on batt.
this will be the same w/the Grande too except there will be 4 cutouts ...

now the things I have read RE: the Grandes
is that if anything they may overwick ...so if that happens, you will know cuz it will leak ....
check to make sure that the coil cup is tight (all the way down) & that should fix the problem ...

good luck to us both w/ these new 4 wick wonders !! I got a blue one

oh on voltage ...I would start low & dial it up to find right spot ...
ce's don't play well w/ super high voltage,from what I hear ...
not my thing so not sure on this one , I use ego's 3.2-3.7

 

[exodus454]

Ok, so I just got my grande yesterday. So far I'm liking it, the flavor especially is REALLY clean compared to cartos.

I am having a few issues though. Last night it was in my hoodie pocket laying down and managed to leak ~2ml of juice all over my pocket. Of course I was at a concert and didn't notice it until it was too late. It looks like it leaked down and out the connector as opposed to filling up the mouthpiece area on top. What do I do?

I feel like it should be wicking a little more but I also don't want it leaking. I tried playing with the cap a little bit but it's surprisingly hard to wrestle around in there. How much vapor do these things usually put out? I'm getting okay vapor but it's probably still a notch below the ol' boge carto. I also was just looking at it, and do you have to move the wicks in the atty cup to get them to line up with the top cap? It looks like the top cap is sitting centered with the cutouts in the atty cup but the wicks don't look like they're sitting in the cutout.

I'm also noticing juice buildup on top of the cap.. is that normal? It doesn't appear to be leaking but every time I clean the juice outta there it seems to find its way back.

 

[vikeme28]

The bad thing about ce2's is you will not be able to lay them down. They will constantly wick and there is inlet one place to go and that's down the breathe hole. Because of that they are not very travel friendly. Always need to be upright.

 

[kelleymcm]

hmmm ....I lay mine down in the bottom of my purse ,inside those eyeglass cases ...that are just a piece of foam folded in half into a tube/pocket thing . And they travel fine,well the little rubber mouth pieces come off the small ones,every now and then... but NO leaks .

sorry I have still not filled mine .... but yes the wicks should be coming out of the cutouts .
Otherwise they will be pinched off by the cup side .

It sounds like it overwicked ...which would mean that the wicks sucked up the juice & then it ran down the center post & out of the bottom ...or if your cup is not sitting in the right alignment with the wicks running thru the cutouts ...then the juice may have just gotten in the cup thru the cutout & then ran thru the center ...

either way it sounds like you need to take the cup off & re position it w/wicks coming out of the cut outs & then push it down till it is tight , all the way down on coil cup (do this on batt so U don't push center out)

so hard to explain,compared to how easy this is to do .....off lookin' for a graphic ....

this thread >http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...on-grande-5ml-tankomizers-various-colors.html is helpful ...no pics tho

this video might help > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rKv6i0z0mc&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL64F764F72A3B130B

 

[exodus454]

Hmm.. thanks for your help! I read through the whole thread and watched the video.

I've been screwing around with that stupid little plug in it all night. I can't get it to wick well and not leak. It either doesn't leak and doesn't produce much vapor, or it produces great vapor and leaks. My friend got one too, I was able to get hers working really well without leaking so maybe mine's just gunna be stubborn. She's also using the same reduced PG juice that I am.

The past hour or two I've left it sitting vertically on my desk and obviously not a drop spilled, it's been working really well to boot. Every time it gets turned close to horizontal it gets all gurgly and leaky though.

I'll keep playing around with it. I really do like it when it's not letting juice fly everywhere.. the flavor is probably the best I've ever tasted and vapor is easily on par with the best cartos. I'm also surprised that it seems to work best around 4.6v, that's right where I was vaping my 2ohm cartos.

 

[exodus454]

So I was doing some research on the CE2's and did some playing around. I took the whole tank apart, cleaned it out, separated the coil (it was all bunched REALLY close together on the wicks) and dry burned the hell out of it.

After two or so days of use it had already accumulated a bunch of crap on the coil and the taste and vapor have improved over day one. It took a good solid 15 minutes of dry burning to get the wick white again! I think having the coils stacked on top of each other made that entire spot on the wick way too hot which burned the liquid and probably screwed up the wicking as well.

It's still leaking out the battery connector when you lay it down though. Not gushing, just enough to fill up the screw in the bottom of my buzz connector and make it gurgly. If only it would just STOP LEAKING..