VV Battery vs Non VV Ego Battery for Nautilus Mini BVC

[Rondo9]

I'm still new to the ecig game. But i have found and use as my daily driver one of the best clearomizers in the market (Nautilus Mini BVC 1.8 ohm) and starting to figure out what kind of eliquids i like.

However i'am not really getting the hype about VV batteries. A ton of people i read here have MVP, Istick, Ego Twist and other kind of VV batteries. Especialy this walkie talkie looking battery MVP. It looks like something good to have to vape at home (2000 plus mah), but even if i had it i'm not sure i would want to drastically increase the voltage/watt.

Trying out a VV battery at the vape store, i can definitely get more vapor production, taste is bit stronger, but on the flipside the juice goes out faster, drains BVC coil life faster.

I'm personally ok with the power that the standard ego batteries (non vv) provide and looking for one around 900-1000mah but shorter in size, so its easier to carry around.

Why do you like using VV battery with your Nautilus mini (or equivalent clearomizer?). Is it necessary?

 

[Andywin]

Not necessary at all, i have one with my 4.2v ego 650mah battery and works a dream

 

[DingerCPA]

Welcome Rondo and Andy!

If you are getting a vape that satisfies *YOU* with what you have, then, no, VV/VW is not necessary. I have 3 MVPs (3 VV3s, 2 Spinner 1300s, a Sigelei Zmax V3 and a handful of eGo minis) in my arsenal. I DIY my juice, so volume of consumption isn't an issue for me. I also rebuild my coils (can't - yet? - for the Nauti) for my other tanks, so that cost is pretty minimal to me now as well.

I like a slightly warmer, more voluminous vape. I can dial up my MVP or my Zmax to 10 or 11 Watts to get me where I want.

This is what *I* like, and works for me. Doesn't mean *YOU'RE* going to like it. I like my vape toys. I'm not going to tell you that you *HAVE* to get something different. Find what *YOU* like. I'm not sure who ships to Canada, otherwise I'd throw you some websites to try to find your 900/1000 maH ego. (Although, for the size and the pass-through capability, the iTaste VV3 is a nice battery. It's only 700maH, so not much more than what you currently have, but pass-through is nice.)

Cheers!

 

[Trailz]

If you're happy with your setup, stick with it, it will run your coils fine. Personally, I like the lower resistance 1.5u dual coils around 3.9V because it produces a hotter vape. With the 1.8u dual coils, I like to be around 4.2V and this will drain an ego style battery much quicker. Check out the eleaf istick and keep it between 7-8W with the Nautilus coils.

You're at 3.7V with the non VV egos (at least the newer ones). Again, if you're happy with your taste/vapor/battery life, stick with it. Myself, it's not about vapor so much as about taste.

 

[stevegmu]

With the right coil resistance/tank setup VV isn't necessary for me to get a great vape. I like my non regulated ProVape-1s as much as I like my ProVaris...

 

[eyerhere]

Using variable voltage can change the way you juice tastes. A juice that tastes like tires at 3.7 may be wonderful at 4.2v.

 

[Mowgli]

I'm a conservative vapor. I like to taste my vape though.
I just dialed my Naughty/BVC down from 5.3V to the 3.7V you're using.
It's pleasant but it's so weak that it almost tastes like there's a problem.
Try a regulated (VV) mod at 4.5V+ with your Naughty in a vape shop or one of your friends'
You'll taste the difference. You might like it better.

I tried my BVC coils up to 5.6V (the most my mod could supply) and it didn't taste burnt just "too much".
I dialed it down to 5.3V and the vape is strong and delicious without being overpowering.

Yep, my DIY 12mg 40/60 cheesecake tastes like flavored air at 3.7V, BRB....
...dialed it up to 5.3V again...ahhhhh



EDIT - I just reread your original post. No hype, I find it necessary. If you like it at 3.7 then that's all that matters.

 

[aznnp77]

I liked my original ego batteries a lot, but there are some key reasons why I could never use a regular stick battery as a primary again.

#1, and it's a big #1. The non vv ego batteries I had started out at 4.2 volts, and the voltage would gradually drop to 4, 3.8, 3.5, 3.3, etc. until it was dead. The lack of consistency was driving me nuts. When you've got your vape hitting just the way you want it to, it sucks that it will drop down the longer you use it. I originally got a vv battery just so I could set it at one voltage and never have it change.

#2. I've found my sweet spot to be at about 3.8 volts. Often times, right off the charger, 4.2 volts would be too high and burn some of my coils. Also, some juices taste better at lower voltages, some at higher. It's commonly told that fruits taste better low, and tobacco flavors taste better high. I use the same for both though.

#3. Sometimes you need to adjust the voltage up as the coil ages. As the juice starts to gunk up your coil and caramelize it, I find myself needing to go from my usual 3.8, to 4 or even 4.2 at times.

#4. After rebuilding coils, or using a brand new coil, you need to break it in. You start at a low voltage to get the juice going, then gradually break in the wick at the normal voltage. If you burn your wick the taste can linger for a bit. This also helps if you're dry burning your silica to extend the coil life.

The only thing I really liked about the non vv egos was the small form factor. But I couldn't do without a VV device anymore. My ego stays in a drawer for emergencies if all my batteries are all charging or something.

P.S. If you want a small form factor vv device, just get an itaste vv3 if you're cool with an 800mah battery. Way too small for me, but that's the size you said you were looking for. Ego VV batteries are very thin as well, but way too long in my opinion. Impossible to pocket.

 

[Rondo9]

I liked my original ego batteries a lot, but there are some key reasons why I could never use a regular stick battery as a primary again.

#1, and it's a big #1. The non vv ego batteries I had started out at 4.2 volts, and the voltage would gradually drop to 4, 3.8, 3.5, 3.3, etc. until it was dead. The lack of consistency was driving me nuts. When you've got your vape hitting just the way you want it to, it sucks that it will drop down the longer you use it. I originally got a vv battery just so I could set it at one voltage and never have it change.

#2. I've found my sweet spot to be at about 3.8 volts. Often times, right off the charger, 4.2 volts would be too high and burn some of my coils. Also, some juices taste better at lower voltages, some at higher. It's commonly told that fruits taste better low, and tobacco flavors taste better high. I use the same for both though.

#3. Sometimes you need to adjust the voltage up as the coil ages. As the juice starts to gunk up your coil and caramelize it, I find myself needing to go from my usual 3.8, to 4 or even 4.2 at times.

#4. After rebuilding coils, or using a brand new coil, you need to break it in. You start at a low voltage to get the juice going, then gradually break in the wick at the normal voltage. If you burn your wick the taste can linger for a bit. This also helps if you're dry burning your silica to extend the coil life.

The only thing I really liked about the non vv egos was the small form factor. But I couldn't do without a VV device anymore. My ego stays in a drawer for emergencies if all my batteries are all charging or something.

P.S. If you want a small form factor vv device, just get an itaste vv3 if you're cool with an 800mah battery. Way too small for me, but that's the size you said you were looking for. Ego VV batteries are very thin as well, but way too long in my opinion. Impossible to pocket.

Excellent points. Especially vv batteries helping the voltage stay constant.

I will look into the itaste vv v3 (a smidge long to pocket but there might be nothing shorter + decent). ?

Aspire cf vv+ or the newer Kanger Emow vv 1300 mah look like two other decent options

Which vv battery do you use? When you take it outside?

Thx guys for your feedback

 

[aznnp77]

Excellent points. Especially vv batteries helping the voltage stay constant.

I will look into the itaste vv v3 (a smidge long to pocket but there might be nothing shorter + decent). ?

Aspire cf vv+ or the newer Kanger Emow vv 1300 mah look like two other decent options

Which vv battery do you use? When you take it outside?

Thx guys for your feedback

The itaste vv3 is tiny IMO. I was shocked when I saw it in the box.

I always carry around 2 batteries, but I wanted each battery to be able to last a day on their own.

My vv upgrade was a generic ego twist 1500mah on ebay. I still use it and like it because the bottom dial clicks when you adjust voltages. I briefly had a regular twist battery that would spin in my pocket and would be impossible to see in the dark. The con of this battery is it's a bit wide and heavy, and it's generic, so there are some minor issues with workmanship. It's shorter than most of the name brands, that's why I got it.

After a week of having the ego twist I decided to get another battery with a digital display so I could also test ohm readings of coils. I searched for hours and hours trying to find something that wasn't a box mod, with a cylindrical shape, without needing separate batteries and charger, and had a digital display that was at least 1100mah and not too heavy. I got an ego vv3, but it was wayyyy too long and it broke after a week. Then I just accepted that the itaste MVP would be the closest and only thing I could get. I've been using that for about 3 months until last week.

Last week I got an eLeaf istick. Form factor is great, and it works great, but with some quirks that are well known. Mainly, the voltage is off by an entire 1.0 volts. On it's lowest setting sometimes I get a staticky signal (rattlesnaking). The MVP vapes slightly better IMO.

If I had to choose between the MVP and the iStick I would choose the istick all day. The MVP has inherent center pin issues I've had to deal with since the first 3 weeks, and it's too big for anyone that doesn't have huge pockets.

Hope that helped. If you're worried about the rattlesnaking, it only happens because I'm still on single coil kangers. If you use dual coils and vape higher than 7 watts, you probably won't run into this problem.

istick has a long thread here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/601111-eleaf-istick.html

 

[Rondo9]

The itaste vv3 is tiny IMO. I was shocked when I saw it in the box.

I always carry around 2 batteries, but I wanted each battery to be able to last a day on their own.

My vv upgrade was a generic ego twist 1500mah on ebay. I still use it and like it because the bottom dial clicks when you adjust voltages. I briefly had a regular twist battery that would spin in my pocket and would be impossible to see in the dark. The con of this battery is it's a bit wide and heavy, and it's generic, so there are some minor issues with workmanship. It's shorter than most of the name brands, that's why I got it.

After a week of having the ego twist I decided to get another battery with a digital display so I could also test ohm readings of coils. I searched for hours and hours trying to find something that wasn't a box mod, with a cylindrical shape, without needing separate batteries and charger, and had a digital display that was at least 1100mah and not too heavy. I got an ego vv3, but it was wayyyy too long and it broke after a week. Then I just accepted that the itaste MVP would be the closest and only thing I could get. I've been using that for about 3 months until last week.

Last week I got an eLeaf istick. Form factor is great, and it works great, but with some quirks that are well known. Mainly, the voltage is off by an entire 1.0 volts. On it's lowest setting sometimes I get a staticky signal (rattlesnaking). The MVP vapes slightly better IMO.

If I had to choose between the MVP and the iStick I would choose the istick all day. The MVP has inherent center pin issues I've had to deal with since the first 3 weeks, and it's too big for anyone that doesn't have huge pockets.

Hope that helped. If you're worried about the rattlesnaking, it only happens because I'm still on single coil kangers. If you use dual coils and vape higher than 7 watts, you probably won't run into this problem.

Thx for your feedback. You sound like me spending lots in ecigs/accessories months after months. After i get the istick to pair with the nautilus mini, im going to take a long break in buying anymore clearomizers, battery. =)

 

[friediceman]

Thx for your feedback. You sound like me spending lots in ecigs/accessories months after months. After i get the istick to pair with the nautilus mini, im going to take a long break in buying anymore clearomizers, battery. =)

That's what I said after each accessory purchase, "this will last me a while", until the next thing comes along...

 

[Rondo9]

That's what I said after each accessory purchase, "this will last me a while", until the next thing comes along...

Lol. Yeah until next best comes out

But i think the nautilus mini bvc and istick are "ahead of its time" kind of devices and i could close my eyes at least for a year before flying up money up in the air again.

 

[aznnp77]

Thx for your feedback. You sound like me spending lots in ecigs/accessories months after months. After i get the istick to pair with the nautilus mini, im going to take a long break in buying anymore clearomizers, battery. =)

We sound like a lot of people around here. The iStick is as close to the perfect mod/battery as you will find as it has everything you could want in a simple device, but the voltage thing is a serious flaw, but not one that can't easily be overcome.

I've spent $400-500 on juice alone in the past 4 months, but I'm glad I can mentally justify it. I'm developing vape tongue, and the only way for me to retain the ability to taste flavors is to constantly switch between many.

 

[Rondo9]

We sound like a lot of people around here. The iStick is as close to the perfect mod/battery as you will find as it has everything you could want in a simple device, but the voltage thing is a serious flaw, but not one that can't easily be overcome.

I've spent $400-500 on juice alone in the past 4 months, but I'm glad I can mentally justify it. I'm developing vape tongue, and the only way for me to retain the ability to taste flavors is to constantly switch between many.

Crap maybe i have vape tongue and dont even know it. I need to change flavors on a daily basis too. I guess the next best ecig invention will be a clearomizer where it can hold two or even three diff eliquid . And you can even vape from two mixed eliquids.

Right now i can vape on apple eliquid without getting really tired of it. Watermelon, berry mix. Cant vape vanilla, dessert flavors for very long. I think im done with regular tobacco flavors.

 

[Trailz]

Rondo, I came down with Vape tongue a week into vaping. For me the key was to up my water intake, this has helped greatly. I currently have 5 clearos with different flavors that I use between an EVOD VV 1300, MVP2 and istick. The Aspire Nautilus Mini I ordered is out for delivery today so that number will increase to 6.

Something else that helps me is to stick my nose in the coffee bean can and take a couple good inhales although it earned a couple strange looks from my wife . . .

 

[Rondo9]

Rondo, I came down with Vape tongue a week into vaping. For me the key was to up my water intake, this has helped greatly. I currently have 5 clearos with different flavors that I use between an EVOD VV 1300, MVP2 and istick. The Aspire Nautilus Mini I ordered is out for delivery today so that number will increase to 6.

Something else that helps me is to stick my nose in the coffee bean can and take a couple good inhales although it earned a couple strange looks from my wife . . .

Thx for the tips.

I guess your body will get used to anything

 

[Trailz]

But i think the nautilus mini bvc and istick are "ahead of its time" kind of devices and i could close my eyes at least for a year before flying up money up in the air again.

. . . not if you stick around here . . .

TIP: I couldn't find the Aspire authenticity verification on their website. I use Google Chrome and when I disabled Ad blocking (I use uBlock) for their site, it magically appeared on the bottom right of every page.

 

[Rondo9]

Anybody heard anything about the mvp 3.0? Will it be as compact as the istick?

 

[friediceman]

Anybody heard anything about the mvp 3.0? Will it be as compact as the istick?

I've heard many rumors floating around, nothing concrete as to its size. I'll stay with my iStick + Nautilus Mini for now, and wait and see.