VV Box Mod

[Paul CL]

Hi. Alot of vapers want to get their hands on a variable voltage wood box/ just vv box. Most of the reasons ive heard is because they can up or control the wattage especially with dual batteries.

With a 30amp batt on a mech mod (not box) i can up thewattage up to 70 or even higher watts by lowering the resistance of my atty. With a VV it's amp is limited for safety reasons (even the watts is limited). So my question is why and what makes a vv box mod better apart from its being safer/regulated operation? Because it seems that all the people i know who prefers a box just wants it for a better cloud or vapor production.

 

[Cool-breeze]

Basically I'm hearing why use a regulated mod aside from safety? I think the biggest answer is consistency. My VV device will give me the same hit no matter the charge on the battery. No matter how good a mech is the vape will get weaker as the battery is used.

 

[Paul CL]

Ah yes. That another advantage i forgot. But is there anything else to it?

 

[Cool-breeze]

Only other thing that comes to mind is its easier to dial in your preferences. By that I mean I might like a 2.0 ohm coil on a protank at 3.8v or my kayfun that has 1.3ohm at 4v. I made those numbers up purely for example but you get the idea, i think. I kinda see that as part of the consistency thing. I find my sweet spot and it stays there and for me a consistent vape is usually more important. I would rather my vape be rated a 8.5 out of 10 all day than to have 30 mins of 10/10 then 30 mins of 8/10, 6/10 etc... And I personally don't want to carry batteries around all day either. A mech has its advantages too, but you didn't ask about that

 

[dice57]

It's more about preferred form factor, than anything else. I like both box and tube mods, 18650 and 26650's. Love mech's and high amp regulated, if it can push at least 30 watts, then yeah, have one, if it can push 70 or more, then yeah, want that too. lol

I like box and 26650 tube mods for dripping, don't need a stand or base, they sit straight up all by themselves. For on the go, usually it's tube mods, easier to carry when using a g case the clips to a belt loop.

Trapezoid mods are kewl too, getting me a few.

Also with most box mods, they are usb charged, so can use a battery bank, even solar powered, to keep your box charged, while camping or without a.c. . Like everything vape. A mod for every occasion. lmao.

 

[Paul CL]

Got it. Thanks for the info. So it's really not about vapor production. Guess my friends are switching to box mods for the wrong reason then

 

[Shootist]

Well I don't get the Mech Mod's. Why? Sub-Ohming only?

In all honesty even with a regulated device, of whatever wattage, no one is going above 3.5 to 5 volts. If they are then they are getting a HOT vape and they are Burning the juice not vaporizing it.

 

[dice57]

Well I don't get the Mech Mod's. Why? Sub-Ohming only?

In all honesty even with a regulated device, of whatever wattage, no one is going above 3.5 to 5 volts. If they are then they are getting a HOT vape and they are Burning the juice not vaporizing it.

Not so Grasshopper, sub ohm is about proper balance of air, wick and Fire power. I have a 0.18 ohm build that is probably cooler than what you are vaping on, but fills you're lungs and mouth to capacity in like 3 seconds, max. Most of my builds are 0.7 ohms or lower, do have one as high as 1.3 ohms, but vape it at 30 watts on the futura.

One is only burning juice when, either enough juice isn't being wicked and adequate air supply isn't met, or have a hot loop in the coil, also when out of juice. I'm just atomizing 10 times as much juice in the same amount of time that you do, and, Loving It.!!


Vape long and Prosper.!!!!

 

[p7willm]

In the past regulated mods were limited by current and now they are starting to drop that limit. There are some that will do 100 watts now and that is a mech at .14 ohms. That is also pushing a battery at 27 amps. Box mods do much better than mechs with multiple 18650 batteries.

By the way most wall sockets will not support 27 amps.

 

[Paul CL]

In the past regulated mods were limited by current and now they are starting to drop that limit. There are some that will do 100 watts now and that is a mech at .14 ohms. That is also pushing a battery at 27 amps. Box mods do much better than mechs with multiple 18650 batteries.

By the way most wall sockets will not support 27 amps.

But with a tube mech with 1 30amp or 35amp batt, i can still achieve 100+ watts if i lower resistance, right?
Another question i have is, what's the reason behind dual parallel batt in some box if they limit the amp to say 16amp like the Axiz mod?

 

[Blackboar]

But with a tube mech with 1 30amp or 35amp batt, i can still achieve 100+ watts if i lower resistance, right?
Another question i have is, what's the reason behind dual parallel batt in some box if they limit the amp to say 16amp like the Axiz mod?

To give yourself a margin of error, you should not go beyond 75% of your battery's amp limit. So for a 30amp battery, you really should stay under 23 amps in your build. That would mean building no lower than 0.18 ohms, which would give you 98 watts. The reason for that margin of error is because ohm readers have a certain amount of variance, according to the quality of the ohm reader. There is also the fact that if you build a coil, it gives you a bit of a margin of error, which you need, because you can never mount a coil exactly the same distance from the posts every single time. Also, coils can change in their resistance with use. They settle into a resistance that can vary quite a bit from when you first measured it.

 

[YoshMonger]

I like the regulated box mods for battery life. I run a .8 ohm coil at around 40W for a day and a half. Perfect vape every time.

 

[garfiode]

Yes I like vv/vw devices because the result is same every draw. I know what to expect when I go to hit it.

 

[slappy3139]

But with a tube mech with 1 30amp or 35amp batt, i can still achieve 100+ watts if i lower resistance, right?
Another question i have is, what's the reason behind dual parallel batt in some box if they limit the amp to say 16amp like the Axiz mod?

Those batteries are in a series circuit I would imagine, which allows you to run at higher voltages to increase power.

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[dice57]

In the past regulated mods were limited by current and now they are starting to drop that limit. There are some that will do 100 watts now and that is a mech at .14 ohms. That is also pushing a battery at 27 amps. Box mods do much better than mechs with multiple 18650 batteries.

By the way most wall sockets will not support 27 amps.

That's some of the story. but don't forget about 26650 mechs and Sony 50 amp batts.

But with a tube mech with 1 30amp or 35amp batt, i can still achieve 100+ watts if i lower resistance, right?
Another question i have is, what's the reason behind dual parallel batt in some box if they limit the amp to say 16amp like the Axiz mod?

Sure you can, but I like a 50 % margin when possible, don't like stressing a batt, wears them out faster, and is not as safe. Anything under 0.3 ohms I use on a 50 amp batt, also get longer run time that way

To give yourself a margin of error, you should not go beyond 75% of your battery's amp limit. So for a 30amp battery, you really should stay under 23 amps in your build. That would mean building no lower than 0.18 ohms, which would give you 98 watts. The reason for that margin of error is because ohm readers have a certain amount of variance, according to the quality of the ohm reader. There is also the fact that if you build a coil, it gives you a bit of a margin of error, which you need, because you can never mount a coil exactly the same distance from the posts every single time. Also, coils can change in their resistance with use. They settle into a resistance that can vary quite a bit from when you first measured it.

True all that. Plus, when you have a accidental locked firing pin, and it will happen, the worst one will get is a dead batt, maybe a burnt wick, and wake up to a pleasant smell of MadEyes Pumpkin Juice.

Those batteries are in a series circuit I would imagine, which allows you to run at higher voltages to increase power.

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It's the build's ohms and the available power that allows us to vape att 90+ watts with a single battery. Stacking is never recommended or advisable. But when used in a dna30 box mod one can easily wire it so you have the amps and the combined mah's. It's the dna30 chip that boosts the voltage to a max of 8.2 volts, or is it .3.? On a mech, drop below 0.2 ohms on the build and one has entered the 90's.

 

[rawr]

Ah yes. That another advantage i forgot. But is there anything else to it?

You want regulated wattage, not voltage. Kick module for mechanical mods and dna30 for box mod.

 

[dice57]

dna30 is not just for box mods, least that's what's in my futura30