vv/vw mod that fits my needs, suggestions needed

[04stinugget]

ok guys I have a situation and I could use some help.

I want/need a vv or vw device that uses at the bare minimum a 18650 battery. However besides the battery cap it needs to be as fluid resistant as possible and as small as possible. It also has to be tough enough to be laid on sat on and banged around a little bit. Due to the nature of my job I require a device that will not allow fluids in, has to fit in my pocket fully without a risk of falling out and tough as possible as I will be moving, climbing, crawling, and smashing my larger than average self into areas where I do not fit.

I would also like some sort of short circuit protection but that is not my highest priority as I rarely chain vape as work and have other devices for around the house.

I have already broken 2 mini lava tubes and my ego batteries just do not quite supply good enough voltage.

So far I have looked into the lambos and the provari as they seem to be on the smaller side but I don't like the fact that people seem to have problems with their low resistance stuff not wanting to fire on them.

Any suggestions guys?

 

[kiwivap]

Some people have said they've been able to fire 0.8 ohm coils on the Provari. A lot of mods have a 1.3 ohm cut off. Personally I think a mechanical mod is best with very low resistance coils, and that's the set up many RBA users go with.

I just edited this as I realized you want something as small as possible with an 18650. That's difficult because of the battery size. The Sigelei Zmax comes to mind - more robust than the Smotech Zmax and takes an 18650 or two 18350 batteries. Variable voltage and variable wattage.
Good review here from Phil Busardo, who puts mods through their paces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa5jYlV4mF8

 

[jazon1]

unless your building your own LR coils pretty much anything out there has you covered almost all LR pre made coils are 1.5 or above,

otherwise it looks like the same thing i was looking for a little while back but i wanted something for a 18350 and unbreakable as possible i went with a provari mini and a fluid flask tank not so much as a scratch on the mini so far.
i have broken two lavatubes a vamo and a zmax before switching to provari and have not regretted the switch yet.

 

[Nomoreash]

The toughest, most durable out is the the Provari imo. It's built like a tank and can be used with a single 18650 with the extension cap. It's also got all the protection built in you were referring to. No PV is going to be totally indestructible but I think it's as close as you're going to get.

I don't know what you mean about having difficulty with low ohms, I'm using a 1.5 ohm DIY atty with it right now at 4.2v and don't have any problems, I've also read many diy atty owners going well below that with the ohms and the Provari. Sure it'll error out if I try to go to high with it but within reason and for most people it'll be fine and fire as well as any single battery adjustable mod that relies on boosting voltage. If you want to get higher volts/watts with LR and DC you'll probably have to go to a 2 battery configuration. The Vamo can handle stacked batteries and get you higher, even stacked 18650s with a extra sleeve but it's longer and not as durable, great pv for the price though.

 

[eHuman]

This may sound counter intuitive, but your described requirements can by met by purchasing a "Bolt" mod and a "Kick". It is rugged durable, and the kick turns it into a VW device. If you prefer your vaping wattage range to be between 5 - 10 watts, then a kicked mechanical could fill the bill.

 

[BuzzKilla]

for durability, a fully mechanical mod is best. i liked my Precise. Full Stainless steel construction, many people cherish them and keep them on a shelf, but it makes a good work horse and can take a beating as designed.

BUT you want VV/VW, getting a Kick and sticking it in a mechanical mod, would be ideal.

Your requirements are tough, so you may have to sacrifice a bit, to get something that would work for you.
With a mechanical, if dunked in water, swapping out the battery would get you back up and running real quick.
a chipped mod, would be out of commission until it could be replaced.

My Precise+ 18650 with a Kick, was my workhorse for almost a year.... and would be m recommendation.
But it is your money....

Hope you find something that fits your needs.

 

[Fury83]

I think a Legacy would fit your needs, you can kick it if you want VW. The kick also supplies your protections too. Though the kick won't fire super low ohm stuff.

 

[04stinugget]

thanks everyone. seems either the provari or a solid mech mod will be best for my needs. I had forgotten about the kick option! I appreciate the suggestions. Maybe mechanical is the way to go for me. don't have to worry about fluid and durability that way.

 

[Fury83]

thanks everyone. seems either the provari or a solid mech mod will be best for my needs. I had forgotten about the kick option! I appreciate the suggestions. Maybe mechanical is the way to go for me. don't have to worry about fluid and durability that way.

The reason I always suggest the legacy is it is the cheapest us made stainless steel mech I can think of. That and you can rebuild it with stuff from the hardware store.

 

[Baditude]

Unsurprisingly, I vouch for the Provari. There are accounts in the Provari forum of people dunking them into a swimming pool, going through an entire wash cycle in the washing machine, getting run over by a dump truck, and falling one story onto concrete, and still working.

For a tank, I'd recommend the Big Daddy Vapor's Who's Your Daddy or Lil Moma tanks. Heavy anodized aluminum with a polypropylene juice window. The only weak link in a Provari-Big Daddy tanks is the connector.

 

[Fury83]

Of course the provari is a solid choice too, I hate mine so much I am getting another.

 

[04stinugget]

lol so I guess everyone hates the provari? well I guess I'll give it a whirl then and see what happens. If they are as durable as alot of you say then I should be alright. Thanks everyone

 

[Stephenst4470]

This may sound counter intuitive, but your described requirements can by met by purchasing a "Bolt" mod and a "Kick". It is rugged durable, and the kick turns it into a VW device. If you prefer your vaping wattage range to be between 5 - 10 watts, then a kicked mechanical could fill the bill.

I love my kicks but he will be limited to 10 watts with these, something to consider if he wants LR stuff....

 

[eHuman]

I love my kicks but he will be limited to 10 watts with these, something to consider if he wants LR stuff....

True, but to be fair, I said a kick would be good if his sweet spot was between 5 and 10 watts.

 

[Schnarph]

I wasn't sure if I should start a new thread or bump this one. The choice has been made. I have been trying to find the most durable, long lasting VV PV available. So far, I am easily satisfied with 1.8 to 2.5 ohm coils and cartos, 4.2v is as high as I have needed. I am inexperienced, still using a Ego-T 2 upgrade passthrough, but it does what I need. I have been holding off on RBAs until I can find the 'perfect' thing to put them on. I might change my mind about a preferred wattage or volts and ohms, but for now I am easy to please. I have always been a sucker for shiny things and pretty lights, but the extra bells and whistles on an eVic are probably not worth the hassle of such an easy to break device. I have learned this lesson too many times in my life, and can't afford to buy an expensive vaping unit that won't last long. I like to experiment and have a bunch of tools like a drill press, various grinders and lots of clamps, but nothing like a machine shop. I am very good at soldering, I can replace capacitors on PC motherboards with ease. I do have a friend that is a machinist, but I would prefer to buy something that is made really well in the first place. The provari seems to be the overall best choice according to just about everybody that has the money to try everything. I no longer have money to waste, I am hoping to get this right the first time.

Long freakin' story short, is there anything as durable as a provari in the VV/VW catagory? Safety is also a major concern, of course. There are some mods that look really tough, but I am hoping to get something smarter than a device I can build myself. Suggestions?

Edit: The Provari is one expensive gadget. Options? If nobody posts an answer in the next few days, I will have to start a new thread or 'ask a veteran'. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Baditude]

Long freakin' story short, is there anything as durable as a provari in the VV/VW catagory? Safety is also a major concern, of course. There are some mods that look really tough, but I am hoping to get something smarter than a device I can build myself. Suggestions?

Edit: The Provari is one expensive gadget. Options? If nobody posts an answer in the next few days, I will have to start a new thread or 'ask a veteran'. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Short freakin' answer short. No.

The Provari is the only VV mod built anywhere near as durable as the better mechanical mods. You are going to have to pay for the added durabiltiy and quality you want. Look at it this way, even after the 1 year warranty is done, Provape will still repair a Provari for as long as you own it for already established cost of parts and service posted on the Provape website. There's not another VV/VW mod on the market that can offer that security for the long term.

You can get a slightly blemished Provari with the full warranty for $140 if cost is a major concern. Clearance

 

[Schnarph]

Short freakin' answer short. No.

The Provari is the only VV mod built anywhere near as durable as the better mechanical mods. You are going to have to pay for the added durabiltiy and quality you want. Look at it this way, even after the 1 year warranty is done, Provape will still repair a Provari for as long as you own it for already established cost of parts and service posted on the Provape website. There's not another VV/VW mod on the market that can offer that security for the long term.

You can get a slightly blemished Provari with the full warranty for $140 if cost is a major concern. Clearance

No matter how much research I do on this subject, that's what I come up with. I saw the clearance 'blemished' Provari for $140 on my first visit to the Provape site. That's the boat I'm in, one poor MFer. Thanks for the response Baditude, I trust your judgement on this topic as much as anyone's.