Walmart Vapor and gear!

[Midniteoyl]

Yep. Everything they touch turns to mendacity and exploitation.

I'd much rather see vaping gear sold by independent local shops, be it high-end or budget.

I live in the middle of nowhere, and starter cigalikes are sold at general stores and gas stations. No problem there - plenty of visibility, and not a penny for the traitorous, blood-sucking Walton family.

Wow...

 

[Midniteoyl]

Seriously, there's all kinds of uses for 18650 batteries, so I wouldn't be surprised if they sell them, but of course they will not be in an 'ecigarette' area, just as the glycerin you can get from Wallmart will not be in an 'ecigarette' or 'vape' section.

They sale NiteCore..

 

[Racehorse]

there is no question from my personal experience and from talking to lots and lots of current analog smokers day in and day out that the #1 reason they don't mess with e cigs was because a first very disappointing impression of them .

Most desperately said they would love to stop but every e cig they tried was absolutely terrible and they have no intention on trying more.

You should do some reading in the ECF "archives" going back to 2008-2009.......and see what kind of "hel*" people were going thru and what they had to use for ecigs, complete with stuffing cartos with fish acquarium filter material........

So no, I don't agree with you. Plenty of people are quite resolute....they stick with it no matter what. they worked out solutions, they shared the solutions, fixes, etc. (still are LOL)

I think people can sure come up with plenty of excuses why vaping didn't work for them....then I read the archives here and realize that that doesn't cut it.......cuz people were reallly workin' it. They wanted to quit smoking and/or drastically reduce their smoking and they DID.


Seems to me, reading the archives, This board was born with people using what today most newbies enteriing the vape world of 2014 would turn up their nose at.

It almost seems.......um......prehistoric at this point. But they did it.

 

[Racehorse]

I live in the middle of nowhere, and starter cigalikes are sold at general stores and gas stations. No problem there - plenty of visibility, and not a penny for the traitorous, blood-sucking Walton family.

yeah, better it goes to BP and the big oil companies who are the reasons the gas stations are there at all.

I dunno it seems to me that it's like finding needle in haystack these days to find any corporation who is not exploitative...... just sayin....

Im not a walmart fan but I would have to include them in the umpteen thousands of other companies and all the advertising and marketing that goes on 24/7 which in and of itself is exploitative, lying, etc.

and by the way, I've definitely felt "exploited" by some of the ecig vendors I've had to deal with over the 2 years of vaping I've experienced.....some pretty frustrating experiences to be quite frank.

Exploitative is a relative term for me these days but I live in the real world and accept it as a *given*.

 

[TheDC]

To be fair, a lot of you are kind of being vape-snobs. Because one person posted that it was horrible, may not be the case for 10 or 100 others.

 

[bover907]

Didn't read the whole thread, but I can say that my wife and I DID IN FACT QUIT on Mictic kits that we bought from wal-mart. She smoked menthol cigs, I smoked reds, but we both quit on mistic menthol, and THEN found other devices AFTER we had already went like two weeks smoke free on the mistics.

Like one or more people said previously, MANY people who have the MINDSET TO QUIT will do so no matter what the equipment, and many will use the cheap gas station/rite-aid/Wal-Mart stuff as a gateway to PV's and APV's.

 

[Kropotkin]

Exploitative is a relative term for me these days but I live in the real world and accept it as a *given*.

Well, sure. Most contemporary Americans "accept it as a given" - which is exactly why our country looks the way it does.



And yes, multinational corporate capitalism is exploitative across the board. Absolutely nothing newsworthy there. The thing that surprises me here is the idea that engaged members of the vaping community would actually welcome the corporate takeover of our little niche market. And by the single most effective destroyer of American small businesses to boot!

I mean, even if we assume that Americans are the most cynical, most passive, most disheartened and apathetic people on earth, this seems just a wee bit bizarre, don't you think?