Like the subject says me and my wife want to get into DIY juice I have seen some of the starting kits for 25-35 bucks but I read some reviews that there not worth getting. I also had couple questions like if I get a vg base nic do I need to had more vg or just pg? Are there a lot of flavors that need to be steeped? We like a lot of fruit flavors but want to expand our tastes. Any advice would be great Ty
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I don't know about "kits" but if you head into the DIY section of ECF there is a ton of info, easy to follow and get started.
To answer your question about nic tho, you add VG or PG in amounts that suit you depending on what final ratio you want to end up with. If you want max VG just add it. For other ratios (which will be affected by your flavours too) there are ejuice calculators that you can download that will show you exactly what amounts of each ingredient to use.
To answer your question about nic tho, you add VG or PG in amounts that suit you depending on what final ratio you want to end up with. If you want max VG just add it. For other ratios (which will be affected by your flavours too) there are ejuice calculators that you can download that will show you exactly what amounts of each ingredient to use.
I don't think the kits are necessary. Here's a thread with a useful list of starter supplies http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...iy-think-you-need-kit-simple-guide-links.html
I find fruit flavors don't need more than a few days of steeping.
The answer to your VG question depends on what VG/PG ratio you want to end up with.
I find fruit flavors don't need more than a few days of steeping.
The answer to your VG question depends on what VG/PG ratio you want to end up with.
A few suggestions:
Start out by making some unflavored juice, maybe a couple of small batches at different PG/VG ratios if you do not already have a preferred ratio. You can always add flavor to that, and having a firm understanding of the measuring processes and the basic taste of what you will be adding flavors to will be helpful.
Start hoarding empty e-juice bottles yesterday.
Mix a few single flavor batches before combining the flavors.
Start small; if you don't want to spend much money, you can get by with a couple of disposable syringes (they can be reused for this purpose) and some empty used bottles.
Spend a lot of time reading this subforum, including (especially) the stickies at the top. DannyV45 and Hoosier have some very useful info for DIY beginners in their bolgs:
E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs
E-Cigarette Forum - Hoosier - Blogs
Start out by making some unflavored juice, maybe a couple of small batches at different PG/VG ratios if you do not already have a preferred ratio. You can always add flavor to that, and having a firm understanding of the measuring processes and the basic taste of what you will be adding flavors to will be helpful.
Start hoarding empty e-juice bottles yesterday.
Mix a few single flavor batches before combining the flavors.
Start small; if you don't want to spend much money, you can get by with a couple of disposable syringes (they can be reused for this purpose) and some empty used bottles.
Spend a lot of time reading this subforum, including (especially) the stickies at the top. DannyV45 and Hoosier have some very useful info for DIY beginners in their bolgs:
E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs
E-Cigarette Forum - Hoosier - Blogs
Here's my take on it.
What you need to know as a first time juicer.
This blog is based on my own experiences and is written as my own personal opinion and should be taken as that only. Please remember to follow and observe all safety precautions.
Many new users wind up in the pit falls of what do I purchase and what do I not purchase. Many over think and over complicate there purchase and wind up spending far more money then they need to.
The Kit:
Many people will by a kit thinking this will give me exactly what I need. I don't really like kits because you get a lot of what you need but also stuff you don't need and you’re stuck with what ever quality they decide to give you which is usually the cheapest. My though is get what you need and not what you don’t need. It will usually be far cheaper and you get better quality.
Bottles:
If your going to steep your mix in hot water or in an Ultrasonic cleaner or intend to store your liquid supplies for a long period you will want to purchase glass bottles. Hard Plastic glass like bottles as they age may leach some of its polymer molecules into the mix which may be a health concern. Soft plastic squeeze bottles are not good choices for long term storage because they tend to leach oxygen through the bottle walls over a long period of time causing excess oxidation. Soft plastic squeeze bottles do not present a polymer leaching issue like the harder plastic bottles and are a better solution for short term storage.
To see more on steeping read my other blogs at:
E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs
Soft squeeze luer lock needle tip bottles are wonderful to store your finished juices in and make it so easy to fill carto’s.
Recommended bottle sizes.
10, 10ml bottles (for test samples)
5, 30ml bottles
Syringes and measuring devices:
Fluid measuring devices are critical for accurate reproduction of a mix. There is nothing worst then using drops or haphazardly measuring and coming up with a fantastic juice and not being able to reproduce it. Exact electronic pipettes or calculating a dropper bottle to count how many drops to a ml may work for some but this can be a hassle. This is why I suggest using syringes and Graduated Cylinders.
Recommended syringes and Graduated Cylinder
Quantity 3, 1ml luer loc syringes
Quantity 3, 3ml syringes
Quantity 3, 10ml syringes
Quantity 1, 50ml Graduated Cylinder
I personally use a 50ml cylinder for measuring out my 1oz mix bases and measuring large quantities of base fluids.
As for luer lock needles the larger the gauge the easier fluid will pass through it.
Large = 14 - 18 gauge used for PG, and Nic solution. For measuring thick fluid like VG use a syringe without a needle attached.
Medium = 20 – 22 Gauge For PG (to thin for VG)
Small = 24 – 26 gauge for measuring PG and alcohol based flavors and can give a consistent small drop.
Safety and safety gear:
This should be self explanatory but remember Nicotine solution is toxic in large mg amounts so all safety precautions should be observed. In smaller amounts such as 12mg, 18mg, 24mg it’s not a serious issue just wash it off your skin right away. Larger quantities can be more serious especially if ingested.
I recommend viewing the following video and bookmark it for future reference. It explains safety in all aspects of DYI.
This is a must view video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBDm8tSUEU&app=desktop
Recommended safety gear:
Rubber gloves
* Goggles
* aprin
* Optional
I recommend my freedom smokes to get mixing supplies as they have the best assortment and best quality that I’ve found.
http://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/
I also have bought bulk syringes and bottles from Ebay and Amazon at a substantial savings.
The Calculator
One of the most helpful tools you could own is a mixing calculator. You can calculate your NIC base, VG, PG content and flavor percentages. Save your favorite recipes and notes, calculate NIC combining ratios etc... All in one easy to use handy tool.
I give the highest recommendation to the E-Juice me up calculator.
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
So there you have it. All you need now are your flavors, PG solution, VG solution and NIC solution and you’re on your way. Recommendations on NIC base solutions and flavors are beyond the scope of this blog and will be covered in a future blog.
My other vaping blogs can be seen at:
E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs
Good luck and happy vaping
What you need to know as a first time juicer.
This blog is based on my own experiences and is written as my own personal opinion and should be taken as that only. Please remember to follow and observe all safety precautions.
Many new users wind up in the pit falls of what do I purchase and what do I not purchase. Many over think and over complicate there purchase and wind up spending far more money then they need to.
The Kit:
Many people will by a kit thinking this will give me exactly what I need. I don't really like kits because you get a lot of what you need but also stuff you don't need and you’re stuck with what ever quality they decide to give you which is usually the cheapest. My though is get what you need and not what you don’t need. It will usually be far cheaper and you get better quality.
Bottles:
If your going to steep your mix in hot water or in an Ultrasonic cleaner or intend to store your liquid supplies for a long period you will want to purchase glass bottles. Hard Plastic glass like bottles as they age may leach some of its polymer molecules into the mix which may be a health concern. Soft plastic squeeze bottles are not good choices for long term storage because they tend to leach oxygen through the bottle walls over a long period of time causing excess oxidation. Soft plastic squeeze bottles do not present a polymer leaching issue like the harder plastic bottles and are a better solution for short term storage.
To see more on steeping read my other blogs at:
E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs
Soft squeeze luer lock needle tip bottles are wonderful to store your finished juices in and make it so easy to fill carto’s.
Recommended bottle sizes.
10, 10ml bottles (for test samples)
5, 30ml bottles
Syringes and measuring devices:
Fluid measuring devices are critical for accurate reproduction of a mix. There is nothing worst then using drops or haphazardly measuring and coming up with a fantastic juice and not being able to reproduce it. Exact electronic pipettes or calculating a dropper bottle to count how many drops to a ml may work for some but this can be a hassle. This is why I suggest using syringes and Graduated Cylinders.
Recommended syringes and Graduated Cylinder
Quantity 3, 1ml luer loc syringes
Quantity 3, 3ml syringes
Quantity 3, 10ml syringes
Quantity 1, 50ml Graduated Cylinder
I personally use a 50ml cylinder for measuring out my 1oz mix bases and measuring large quantities of base fluids.
As for luer lock needles the larger the gauge the easier fluid will pass through it.
Large = 14 - 18 gauge used for PG, and Nic solution. For measuring thick fluid like VG use a syringe without a needle attached.
Medium = 20 – 22 Gauge For PG (to thin for VG)
Small = 24 – 26 gauge for measuring PG and alcohol based flavors and can give a consistent small drop.
Safety and safety gear:
This should be self explanatory but remember Nicotine solution is toxic in large mg amounts so all safety precautions should be observed. In smaller amounts such as 12mg, 18mg, 24mg it’s not a serious issue just wash it off your skin right away. Larger quantities can be more serious especially if ingested.
I recommend viewing the following video and bookmark it for future reference. It explains safety in all aspects of DYI.
This is a must view video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBDm8tSUEU&app=desktop
Recommended safety gear:
Rubber gloves
* Goggles
* aprin
* Optional
I recommend my freedom smokes to get mixing supplies as they have the best assortment and best quality that I’ve found.
http://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/
I also have bought bulk syringes and bottles from Ebay and Amazon at a substantial savings.
The Calculator
One of the most helpful tools you could own is a mixing calculator. You can calculate your NIC base, VG, PG content and flavor percentages. Save your favorite recipes and notes, calculate NIC combining ratios etc... All in one easy to use handy tool.
I give the highest recommendation to the E-Juice me up calculator.
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
So there you have it. All you need now are your flavors, PG solution, VG solution and NIC solution and you’re on your way. Recommendations on NIC base solutions and flavors are beyond the scope of this blog and will be covered in a future blog.
My other vaping blogs can be seen at:
E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs
Good luck and happy vaping
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Thank you sir that was a good read. And I am reading the blogs u have up there's a lot of info in there I have read most of them now just waiting for the wife to read them shove she will be mixing it up more then me. We prefer 6 mg nic flyovers so we were thinking of buying 12mg nic solution in a vg base we do like 50/50 and 70vg/30pg ratio
Just mixing 12mg nic solution with equal part of VG isnt how it works. A 50/50 ratio is half VG and half PG, you would add the appropriate amount of nic to that. To find the correct amount of all ingredients, including nic, you should use an ejuice calculator. Enter the amount of juice you wish to make (30ml for example), the ratio of PG/VG you want, your desired nic strength (finished product), the actual strength of your undiluted nic solution and the flavorings you want to use. The calculator will tell you how much of each to use in your mix.
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