Wanting to make a copper mod, need assistance!

[wazzup592]

I have not yet touched on the building of my own mod, but I am a quick learner and it seems there isn't much really to modding, no offense meant towards anybody. Some simple circuits and you have a working pv, from my understanding.

I currently have a riva 510 and the madvapes vv boxmod. That should be good enough for me right? Well it is, the only problem is, the boxmod is well, kind of not too pocket friendly. I feel like a tube mod would feel better in my pocket and also tube mods for me seem like they would be less prone to cracking/ breaking a cartomizer or atomizer should they bend in my pocket. My idea seems doable, I just need the right guidance, or a better way to go after my plan.

My idea is a copper tube mod, that incorporates the madvapes vv reg board. The pot is a blue, round screw type turning disk kind of thing that has a screwdriver hole in the middle. I would like to make a copper mod with 2 or 3 chambers. I would like the end chamber to house the vv reg chip. I was thinking a copper tube with the screw type end connector that would have some sort of attachment on the inside that would turn the pot up and down when I screw the end on tighter or or looser, I think that would be really cool. The 2nd chamber would house the battery, 1 18650 or 2 16340s. If there are any gains, losses between the two battery types for daily usage, I would be interested in the pros and cons of that.

The third chamber, if easily doable would hold a 510 atomizer connection somewhere in the middle, recessed for extra protection from bendage/breakage and also hold any overflow of nicquid should that so happen. I will draw a picture of what I want to do for those who need to see things visually to get their minds going.

Any and all suggestions/help/schematics are greatly appreciated. I figured this would be the best place to come on this forum.

By the way for anyone wondering why I just don't buy a provari, well, the provari is a nice mod and all, but it's way to expensive. Plus with a copper tube I could vinyl wrap it or something and not feel bad about ruining a nice finish. Plus copper has a decent finish that can he enhanced anyways, which I like a lot, and its durable. Enough rambling, discuss

 

[wazzup592]

 

[Java_Az]

Only problem I see , is that if your going to run VV the PV wont work running off one battery and/or if it did it would be in the 2.7 voltage range due to the regulators dropout voltage. Got to have 2 stacked batteries for the regulator work in the vapable range .

 

[wazzup592]

so how about two 16340s or 18350s which would be better even

 

[Java_Az]

so how about two 16340s or 18350s which would be better even

Sure that will work. You need two in series to double the voltage then the regulator will let you adjust down to vaping perfection. Just one battery is only a nominal 3.7 volts. Most folks like to vape in the 4 volt range. There are some regulating modules that will boost the voltage not sure if you want to mess with that just starting out. But if you want to check it out here is one Plug-in Power Module - Non-Isolated POL - PTN04050C - TI.com Not quite as easy as the madvapes board kit but you could roll with one battery using it. IMR 18650 would be more ideal for the booster reg.

 

[wazzup592]

I see, that is an option. As it is my first mod, I'd like to keep it on the simpler side, plus with that it says a 1k unit order, which I don't really need . I think with the dual 18350s thatd be the easiest way to get the full power out of the vv reg from madvapes. Can anyone help me out with the design? What size tubing, mounting of the madvapes board? It seems on the long side now that I'm looking at it, about an inch long which seems like it would be easier to mount it on the side. Basically, I would like somebody to hold my hand on this first modding adventure of mine . I'm taking notes!

 

[wazzup592]

I'm gonna get to the depot this weekend. Any help would be awesome

 

[wazzup592]

I just looked and the madvapes vv reg is 1.3 inches long! That means unless I use a large tube in diameter, or turn it sideways, this mod will be huge. I need to find a better way to go about this. I don't really need full variable voltage, but would like somewhere in the 3.7,5,6 volt ranges if I could do a 3 way switch, but that seems like it'd be a lot harder to pull off

 

[NicksVap3]

you could do a side by side mod, electronics in one tube, batts in the other

 

[wazzup592]

That is a possibility. I know I want something variable voltage whether it be a 3.7/5/6 switch or something, or the actually vv with the pot. Is there a way to space out the bot and not use a board? Let me find the link where it seems more doable. Also rather than a seperate chamber for the reg and pot, I think just having the pot accesible from the bottom of the bottom cap would be easier. Can you buy pre threaded 3/4inch tubes that are maybe 1 inch long, then antoher that is say 3-4 inches long, threaded on both end? I feel like I am thinking way too far into this. Basically I just want a tube mod with a vv, with the pot flush mounted on the bottom cap

 

[Java_Az]

Welcome to modding, Making something that works is not all that tough. But stuffing all that stuff you want in your mod to do into a small space is the challenge. Even the small switches that can handle the amps we require take up some valuable real estate. I will try to help you out as much as i can i dont really do tube mods at least ones with batteries i make a pretty mean PT tube though.

 

[wazzup592]

Well I can practice before I place it in, but the real challenge I think is going to be fitting a vv reg and pot somewhere in there. I have been reading that you don't really need the madvapes one and there are similar alternatives that don't really require me needing 1.3" of space all in one area to fit the madvapes vv reg board, but if you make one yourself with a vv reg and seperate it all you can have a spaced out regulator, and pot and whatnot. I feel like I am making no sense here. It's like im learning about ecigs all over again. It's very overwhelming

 

[NicksVap3]

looks like the poorvari might be a good choice for this

 

[wazzup592]

Thats where I got the idea, the poorvari. I think it was page 2 or 3 people were linking better small systems and better regulators. Just gotta find out the best way to get the pot on the bottom, and everything in there without it being 12 inches long lmao

 

[Java_Az]

You can for sure go smaller. The madvapes reg is pretty big considering whats out there today. But the small stuff is not quite as easy to work is the reason they did it like that. The average DIY'er wants something fairly easy to solder. To give you an idea here is a board i designed off a circuit clutch junkie posted in another thread. I just made it really small here is a pic of it next to a penny. The size is 1/2 x 3/4. It is for a tube mod but it for sure is not something one would tackle with out some experience soldering bigger stuff first.

 

[wazzup592]

I'm a noob solderer, I guess something that small wouldn't work for me. Let me show you what someone else was coming up with

 

[wazzup592]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/149538-digital-potentiometer.html#post2404772

 

[Chip_]

I'm a noob solderer, I guess something that small wouldn't work for me. Let me show you what someone else was coming up with

Oh sure you can handle it. Just get a X10 magnifier, and a special thin tip for your soldering iron.
Then use liquid flux and dunk the whole board and cover it with flux. Dunk the IC in the flux too.
Then use your X10 magnifier, with a hot soldering iron and some really really thin solder then your off and running.

The trick with this tiny stuff is to use really thin soldering wire, and a very thin solder tip, and lots and lots of flux.

 

[CraigHB]

Yea, that's pretty much it, but for someone new to soldering, doing surface mount is still going to be really tough. I've been soldering electronics for decades and I still have a hard time every now and then. That's using 10x mag, .015" wire solder, and a .015" tip. Hehe, things just keep getting smaller and my hands just keep getting less steady.

For someone new to this stuff, I think the Poorvari is an excellent place to start.

Make your tube for a couple 18350 batts or a couple 16340 batts. If the 18mm width is okay, go with that. You can go with two 16340s if you want to knock a couple mm off the width, but you'll give up some charge capacity.

You will need some length for your regulator, pot, and switch, but it should be tolerable. Solder the wires close on the regulator leads then trim the excess off. Heatshrink tubing is a quick and easy way to insulate the connections. The reg will not be very long after that. Besides, the part is in a standard TO-220 package. They're all going to be that size. If you go smaller, it will be one that has current output too low for an atomizer.

Best of luck with it.

 

[wazzup592]

Gotcha I think I'm gonna use that to 220