Warning - Avoid Cinnamon Flavors

[Traver]

Ok we all know that this was discussed over 2 years ago, dont you? and here we are again sheesh lol. Just saying. This is not NEW.

I'll also suggest that with today's technology we can tell without doing 20 year study's what effects can and well happen, also many Vapers here have been Vapeing for over 5-6 years and lo and behold are healthy and alive.

2 years ago when those discussions were taking place was when I become convinced that I didn't want it in my lungs.

i am pretty sure that there are more than a few living ex smokers on this forum who used analogs and decided to quit while they were still alive and healthy. I don't see the 5 or 6 year and they are still alive and healthy theory as a valid argument.

As for the study we will have to wait till it is published to figure how it pertains to vaping and how valid it is.

 

[Talyon]

2 years ago when those discussions were taking place was when I become convinced that I didn't want it in my lungs.

i am pretty sure that there are more than a few living ex smokers on this forum who used analogs and decided to quit while they were still alive and healthy. I don't see the 5 or 6 year and they are still alive and healthy theory as a valid argument.

As for the study we will have to wait till it is published to figure how it pertains to vaping and how valid it is.

Your old enough to make your own decisions. I've no problem with that, I'm simply letting people know this is not NEW like some are making it out to be so my argument of longevity is valid.

 

[Aheadatime]

This thread got pretty popular. I've since seen the Dimitris interview and have heard both sides. I don't vape cinnamon all that much (maybe 3-4 recipes), and I don't really hold stock in one side over the other on this topic tbh. The thread was intended to inform those who don't know that there is controversy surrounding cinnamon flavorings. Were all adult enough to make our own choices. I won't throw the cinnamon flavorings out of my DIY drawer, but I won't be chain vaping it either.

 

[Midnight*]

The way I see it... With vaping I have quit smoking analogs. That alone is a huge improvement.
I also love the cinnamon flavors and the "custard" notes. When I heard of the "possible dangers" in them I checked them out.
I have read for hours upon hours on both of them and I personally have come to the decision that even tho there may be slightly more "carcinogens" in these flavors, they no way compare to the toxicity of smoking analogs.
And it will not change or influence the flavors that I vape.

 

[cookiebun]

This thread got pretty popular. I've since seen the Dimitris interview and have heard both sides. I don't vape cinnamon all that much (maybe 3-4 recipes), and I don't really hold stock in one side over the other on this topic tbh. The thread was intended to inform those who don't know that there is controversy surrounding cinnamon flavorings. Were all adult enough to make our own choices. I won't throw the cinnamon flavorings out of my DIY drawer, but I won't be chain vaping it either.

I posted thread in the media forum about your post:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/494674-our-favorite-calf-researchers.html
As soon as I saw the name Talbot I was suspicious. I knew that if there was any one here on ECF who could access the entire article and translate it into plain English for the rest of us they'd be a regular in the Electronic Cigarette News forum.
Google "talbot" with http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ as a domain qualifier. That flipping dingbat got $850.000 to watch vaping videos on youtube. One of these days I expect her and the rest of her crew at UC to publish a study saying standing 5000 yards away from someone holding a UNLIT cigarette can give you cancer. The tobacco settlement money funds an unbelievable amount of junk science.

Read the Electronic Cigarette News regularly and take every thing you see or read in in the media with a big grain of salt.
Know Thy Enemy.



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dy-ecf-posts-grossly-misrepresents-facts.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ine-delivery-systems-ends-youtube-videos.html

 

[Miller319]

No one is likely to inhale 'substantial quantities' of cinnamon (or "cookie") into their lungs by eating a box of cinnamon cookies - they'd be inhaling the aroma of cinnamon into their lungs. Perhaps if the cookies were 'heavily dusted' on the outside with cinnamon, some actual cinnamon might accidentally get sucked into their lungs (which would result in coughing).

When I read this post I couldn't help but think of this video.

 

[tddman66]

I have always gone on the theory if the juice eats a poly tank or cracks it.... I more than likely don't want that same juice in my body. Just using my common sense and science may prove me wrong. Same with the food I eat if it damaged the plate I put it on I wouldn't eat it. We eat lots of things that we wouldn't want in our lungs. This industry has been around far to long not to have some solid info. It is very strange how little science we have to go on. If the small vendors don't ban together and fund study big tobacco will do it for them resulting in them being banned. Invest wise vendors.

 

[Racehorse]

I pumped tar into my lungs on a daily basis for 35 years. I doubt a little cinnamon occasionally is going to put me over the edge.

I can see that perspective as making sense.

Here's a different one: BECAUSE I pumped tar into my lungs on a daily basis for 20 years, I know that my lungs are somewhat "damaged". Therefore, once I decided to stop abusing them in that way, I also realized that it might not be a good idea to push them further. I believe that most smokers' lungs, and probably esophagus, are somewhat compromised already. That means they are less able to take abuse that healthier lungs and tissues may be able to withstand.

Once I decided to stop smoking, I also developed a different "consciousness" about my lungs. Now, I really want to be as kind to them as possible.

When I say my consciousness changed, I mean that that as a smoker, I was aware of the damage I was doing, but I didn't care enough to quit smoking. I knew it caused wrinkles, and other stuff. There is a certain amount of denial that has to occur when you are not taking care of yourself....it's actually self destructiveness perhaps? You know you are injesting 4,000 chemicals, you know you stink, etc. but you keep doing it anyway.

I believe that vocabulary phrase "smoke screen" aptly applies........it's like you are behind a screen or something, an obstruction that keeps you from the truth about something. "in a cloud of smoke", etc. "cloudy" doesn't imply clarity.

Therefore, when I quit smoking, I got more real with myself. So, I see no reason why people who decide to not only quit smoking, but to exercise MORE caution in what behaviors they engage in, should be ridiculed. I do see that here sometimes.

For me, quitting smoking was turning over a new leaf in many many ways. So no, i DON'T wan't to inhale antyhign that may prove "harsh" on my compromised lungs.

 

[we2rcool]

i can see that perspective as making sense.

Here's a different one: Because i pumped tar into my lungs on a daily basis for 20 years, i know that my lungs are somewhat "damaged". Therefore, once i decided to stop abusing them in that way, i also realized that it might not be a good idea to push them further. I believe that most smokers' lungs, and probably esophagus, are somewhat compromised already. That means they are less able to take abuse that healthier lungs and tissues may be able to withstand.

Once i decided to stop smoking, i also developed a different "consciousness" about my lungs. Now, i really want to be as kind to them as possible.

when i say my consciousness changed, i mean that that as a smoker, i was aware of the damage i was doing, but i didn't care enough to quit smoking. I knew it caused wrinkles, and other stuff. There is a certain amount of denial that has to occur when you are not taking care of yourself....it's actually self destructiveness perhaps? You know you are injesting 4,000 chemicals, you know you stink, etc. But you keep doing it anyway.

I believe that vocabulary phrase "smoke screen" aptly applies........it's like you are behind a screen or something, an obstruction that keeps you from the truth about something. "in a cloud of smoke", etc. "cloudy" doesn't imply clarity.

Therefore, when i quit smoking, i got more real with myself. So, i see no reason why people who decide to not only quit smoking, but to exercise more caution in what behaviors they engage in, should be ridiculed. I do see that here sometimes.

For me, quitting smoking was turning over a new leaf in many many ways. So no, i don't wan't to inhale antyhign that may prove "harsh" on my compromised lungs.

we completely agree!

 

[ShariR]

I am sensitive to cinnamon, it gives me a burning sensation if there is even a small amount in the juice. So I do not vape it.

I had a full blown reaction to a couple of vanilla custard juices, with swelling and burning. I do not vape those either.

After 45 years of smoking 2 pad we can figure that I do not have healthy young lungs. I have to take extra care to not vape irritants, of which cinnamon is a known, common irritant. Not everyone falls into that category. But everyone has the potential to get there.

All I am saying is to pay attention to what your body is telling you. If that throat hit is a burn, or you are getting sores in your mouth or having trouble breathing, stop using that juice. The decision is yours.

 

[Rin13]

For me, even the possibility of danger to my lungs isn't worth inhaling it. I don't personally enjoy any cinnamon flavor enough to take the risk. However, I imagine if you don't inhale that it minimizes most of the danger, if there is any. If I want cinnamon, I'll just eat it. It's tasty.

 

[JR3342]

A little info for thought.
Coke and Pepsi base are transported as hazardous materials. Corrosive.
Your foods are fried in what fuels my truck. Cooking oil.
Lot's of food grade is hauled ss hazardous . Till its mixed or thinned out.
A strong dose of anything can be toxic.
I've hauled toxic waste, deadly chemical, been to nuke sites. Painted cars, inhaled tons of diesel fumes snd 30 yrs of analogs. All known to calif to be deadly. I'm still here, so I think some cinnamon danish vape will be ok.

 

[BadTrainDriver]

A little info for thought.
Coke and Pepsi base are transported as hazardous materials.

Negative.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

 

[JR3342]

Didn't read it online.
Hauled it. The raw product that goes into it. Not the finished product that goes to stores.

 

[BadTrainDriver]

Lol, sorry about that. I totally missed the "base" part!