WARNING: Do not vape at high voltages if your happy with 3.6/3.7

[Robert]

he's right 6 volt is nice and I can't go back to 3,7 but I am really getting to like 5 volts but I have all three in my hand so I like choices......I still like my 510 for Cherry Bomb it didn't taste right at 5 or 6???? waiting for high volt cherry- the juice makes a differance - using higher voltages! All depends on the juice - IMO

 

[BenJammin]

My RN4081 passthru on a 5 volt Duracell portable power supply makes the same vape as my 601 Pipe on it's stock 3.7 volt batt. I just have to top up more often. I use it as my back-up plan. Before I got the portable rig going I have resorted to an emergency ghetto-mod on my pipe in a pinch when I found myself working late and having to stay overnight without my charger. Simply refusing to buy analogs, I took two 3 volt camera batteries taped together, loaded them into the pipe and used a short length of stiff wire bent in place to bridge the gap between the + pole and the "arm" with my finger holding it all in place. OMFG 6volt pipe! Plumes and clouds! Said to curious on-looker in the parking lot at Wal-Mart: "Yeah, Buddy that's right! I AM smoking a battery! Only God can judge me! Boo!" I felt like I was sucking on a crop duster, but flavor was cut in half. Kept me off the analogs though. I could see myself getting used to 6 volts, but 3.7 works for me I've no plans to switch over.

 

[Robert]

ROFL oh my so funny- It 3am and I seriously laughed too loud just now! damn dude! - Now that is DIY

 

[trog100]

one thing folks should learn here is.. a small so called 3.7 volt normal e cig isnt quite the same as a big so called 3.7 volt prodigy battery..

its silly to think it is.. the small single cell battery suffers a voltage drop under load.. it true voltage will not be a constant 3.7 volts..

its comes off the charger at 4.2 volts.. it then loses voltage pretty quickly as its (short) run time is used up.. by the time its half run down the voltage getting to the atomizer will be nearer 3 volts.. so a so called 3.7 small e cig battery could be called 3 volts...

now in the case of a large single cell battery lets use the prodigy 18650 one.. this will have a real life run time of between 2 and 4 days... it comes off the charger at 4.2 volts not the too often used 3.7... because of it size it will not suffer the same voltage drop as the too small normal e cig battery..

a lot of its run time will be over 4 volts.. unlike the normal e cig battery which loses voltage right from the word go..

so dont make the mistake of comparing a normal so called 3.7 volt e cig battery with something like the so called large 3.7 volt prodigy battery.. there really is no comparison..

okay 4 volts isnt 5 volts but a single 18650 battery is a more sensible option than the two smaller cells which are needed to get 5 volts.. the extra volt isnt really worth the run time loss (and complication) that occurs to get it..

at a rough guess i would say the single 18650 option would give at least 3 x times the usable run time the higher voltage two cell option would give..

if you really do think you need the higher voltage go for it by all means.. but there will be a big drop in run time between charges.. nothing comes for free..

as for the off mentioned 6 volt option.. to get that one would have to use two none rechargeable lithium 3 volt cells..

two rechargeable ones would be either 7.2 volts off the charger or 8.4 volts off the charger.. using none rechargeable lithium cells isnt a valid option which makes 6 volt claims quite simply false..

posting valid battery information on this place is a wast of time.. it just moves off the front page to be replaced by more erroneous bullsh-t but here you have some..

trog

ps..why do i use the term "so called".. simply because 3.7 volts is false.. two in series fresh off the charger would produce 8.4 volts.. way way higher than the too oft quoted 6 volts.. this is purely my opinion but 8.4 volts is simply too much to throw at an atomizer made to be powered by a normal single cell e cig battery..

folks buy high numbers and other folks make things for such folks..

 

[Closet Toker]

Here's how I look at the voltage controversy.

If a smoker smoked "light" cigarettes, perhaps 3.7 volts is all they will need

If a smoker is used to "full" flavor cigarettes, 3.7 does not satisfy.

I personally was a full flavor smoker. 3.7 did not cut it for me.

I could never go back to low voltage vaping.

 

[AngusATAT]

If a smoker is used to "full" flavor cigarettes, 3.7 does not satisfy.

Well, it certainly worked for me, and I smoked "full flavor" for a little over 25 years.

 

[Nuck]

one thing folks should learn here is.. a small so called 3.7 volt normal e cig isnt quite the same as a big so called 3.7 volt prodigy battery..

its silly to think it is.. the small single cell battery suffers a voltage drop under load.. it true voltage will not be a constant 3.7 volts..

its comes off the charger at 4.2 volts.. it then loses voltage pretty quickly as its (short) run time is used up.. by the time its half run down the voltage getting to the atomizer will be nearer 3 volts.. so a so called 3.7 small e cig battery could be called 3 volts...

now in the case of a large single cell battery lets use the prodigy 18650 one.. this will have a real life run time of between 2 and 4 days... it comes off the charger at 4.2 volts not the too often used 3.7... because of it size it will not suffer the same voltage drop as the too small normal e cig battery..

a lot of its run time will be over 4 volts.. unlike the normal e cig battery which loses voltage right from the word go..

so dont make the mistake of comparing a normal so called 3.7 volt e cig battery with something like the so called large 3.7 volt prodigy battery.. there really is no comparison..

okay 4 volts isnt 5 volts but a single 18650 battery is a more sensible option than the two smaller cells which are needed to get 5 volts.. the extra volt isnt really worth the run time loss (and complication) that occurs to get it..

at a rough guess i would say the single 18650 option would give at least 3 x times the usable run time the higher voltage two cell option would give..

if you really do think you need the higher voltage go for it by all means.. but there will be a big drop in run time between charges.. nothing comes for free..

as for the off mentioned 6 volt option.. to get that one would have to use two none rechargeable lithium 3 volt cells..

two rechargeable ones would be either 7.2 volts off the charger or 8.4 volts off the charger.. using none rechargeable lithium cells isnt a valid option which makes 6 volt claims quite simply false..

posting valid battery information on this place is a wast of time.. it just moves off the front page to be replaced by more erroneous bullsh-t but here you have some..

trog

ps..why do i use the term "so called".. simply because 3.7 volts is false.. two in series fresh off the charger would produce 8.4 volts.. way way higher than the too oft quoted 6 volts.. this is purely my opinion but 8.4 volts is simply too much to throw at an atomizer made to be powered by a normal single cell e cig battery..

folks buy high numbers and other folks make things for such folks..

I use an 18650 at 3.7-4.2 I can switch it to 4.4 and to 5.0 using a DC boost and I can tell you that the difference is massive between all 3 settings. It's easily over 100% more vapour.

The reason people call them 6.0v is because they typically use 2x3.0 li ion bats that max out up to 6.6v. The average voltage during the cycle is 6.0v so the label is correct.

Anyone that sticks in 2x3.7v doesn't understand the concept and has an endless supply of atomizers.

 

[Zofryer]

The only atomizer I enjoy at 3.7V anymore is the 510, and I have to take huge 10 second hits. I use the 901 at 3.7V sometimes for flavor testing because it's so good for that, but I couldn't use one regularly. OP is dead on. If you are quite happy at 3.7V, stay there as long as you can.

 

[scott58]

Sounds like someone could get rich just making a variable control where we could dial in our own voltage.

 

[Nuck]

Sounds like someone could get rich just making a variable control where we could dial in our own voltage.

It's been done by modders but its not nearly as good as you'd expect. There are so many variables its hard to find the proper spot and turns out to be more trouble than its worth. I was constantly adjusting.

There is another mod with a better solution but I can't post the link to it because ECF censors the competing forum.

Overall though, you are right. The current mods available are just the beginning and I'm pretty sure we will see much more sophisticated power management as time goes on.

 

[radwor]

Absolutely agree. From the very first hit of a 6v (moved to 5v later) mod, I've never been able to go back to 3.7v.

I think 6.?v is too much regulated 5v is good w/ a 510 atty.

 

[radwor]

The only atomizer I enjoy at 3.7V anymore is the 510, and I have to take huge 10 second hits. I use the 901 at 3.7V sometimes for flavor testing because it's so good for that, but I couldn't use one regularly. OP is dead on. If you are quite happy at 3.7V, stay there as long as you can.

I find that the KR808D-1 works really good @ 3.7v, but I haven't really tested @ 5v. Have you tried the dse8084, that atty makes huge vap and will burn your lips w/ its tiny 3.7v batt.

 

[Quitter]

Okay so I've been reading about 5 volts and curiousity was peaked, so I bought a Pure Smoker pas thru for my 510 atty's. It came a few days ago and it was DOA!!!! The switch was stuck ON. Of course I didn't know it and my 510 atty got 5 volts for too long and it fried it!!! So I mailed it back to PS and they wouldn't replace my atty, even though thier defective equipment killed it. I have a lesser view of PS now. A good customer service company would've been willing to throw in a $5 atty just for goodwill when thier defective peice caused damage to my equipment and now will cost money. They did the minumum they had to do and nothing more. Oh well. Let's hope they yest the replacement before they send it!

So it brings up the question in my mind, is 5V a killer on atty's? Am I going to start burning up my 510 atty's for the 5v experience? Scares me a bit you know?

SO is the voltage difference really that dramatic? I guess I'll know when PS sends me the replacement. What exactly is the difference in the vaping experience? All the high voltage folks rave about it but no one really descibes WHY it's so great.

 

[DaMulta]

When I pop off two fresh 17335 bats it's about 7v. On the 510 at that voltage the vapor almost feeds into your lungs. With high voltage you get a ton of more vapor, and not only that you get it REALLY FAST! It's also a little warmer too.

I replace my atomizers every other week so it's not that big of deal if I pop them after a couple of weeks.

I killed one yesterday that was a little over the two week mark.

 

[doots]

Okay so I've been reading about 5 volts and curiousity was peaked, so I bought a Pure Smoker pas thru for my 510 atty's. It came a few days ago and it was DOA!!!! The switch was stuck ON. Of course I didn't know it and my 510 atty got 5 volts for too long and it fried it!!! So I mailed it back to PS and they wouldn't replace my atty, even though thier defective equipment killed it. I have a lesser view of PS now. A good customer service company would've been willing to throw in a $5 atty just for goodwill when thier defective peice caused damage to my equipment and now will cost money. They did the minumum they had to do and nothing more. Oh well. Let's hope they yest the replacement before they send it!

So it brings up the question in my mind, is 5V a killer on atty's? Am I going to start burning up my 510 atty's for the 5v experience? Scares me a bit you know?

SO is the voltage difference really that dramatic? I guess I'll know when PS sends me the replacement. What exactly is the difference in the vaping experience? All the high voltage folks rave about it but no one really descibes WHY it's so great.

I think the 510 is great for 5 or 6v vaping. Mine has lasted a long time.
You wont have any worries using your 510 on high volt.YES. the difference is huge..

 

[gep]

Just like everything in the esmoking world it's going to come down to WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN YOUR VAPING EXPERIENCE.

No one can definitively tell you that x juice is better than y, mod a is better than mod b, 3.7v is better than 6v.

My experience with the higher voltage. Yes the hit is stronger the volume of the vapor is larger but it uses a lot of juice and requires you to be more vigilant in determining the state of your atomizer, i.e., is it too dry, is it too hot etc. So there is a learning curve.

If you're happy with the way your e-cig is working using the lower voltage batteries but are wanting longer battery life and cheaper batteries, stick with the mods that use the 3.7 range voltage.

Again, my two cents ( and I'm running out of pennies)

 

[Robert]

my atty are fine and 2 CR2's is 7.2 volts and full charge - I think this quickly drops to 6 volt and stays there for the use- When they get to 2.5V (each)or something they don't work anymore- So the 5v and 6+v side of my mod both stop at the same time.

The 5v reg has protection that don't allow the batteries to drain to much- so for preventing xploding 5v with a reg may be better

7.2 volts hasn't hurt my 510's on Shrecks Muti Volt- So mine (same thing) and yours should be fine.

But - You should allways know where your atty/juice level is and not go to dry 510 or Mod or Any e-cig

 

[phee]

i tried 7.2 and 7.4 and blew three attys in a matter of minutes, its a little tricky to weigh out either flooding or being too dry when you're going beyond 6v, but i have to say i freakin am so spoiled by 5v+ but my SD is so much more convenient and 3.7 for the SD is fine and the PD and PS PT are more for 'at home' and long drives, publicly though i'm more comfortable with my SD, i have to say though, standard 510s just dont do anything for me anymore but i like having them has backups.

 

[catlvr]

I was doing just fine with my 510. Then I got a Puresmoker PT and just had to have a Prodigy. Now I feel complete. Have plenty of 510 attys to use with both. I now use my 510 at work and my Prodigy at home. Works out great for me. When I'm home that's when I have problems wanting analogs and the Prodigy is taking care of that for me.