Was At A Street Fair Yesterday...
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Yeah, I find that I will vape in my car on my short way to work then spend two hours loading the kiln and never even think to vape till on my way back home.
I remember when I was 18 or so working in the restaurant of a Hilton in the middle of KS and rushing out to smoke every chance I got. One of the 'older' Italian cooks said, "you always rushing to smoke! It should be something you like, a reward at the end of the night".There was a thread a bit ago Am I Normal. Their comment was that they only vaped at home not needing to a work. It triggered that Hilton memory in me. I feel that vaping is akin to how our grandparents might have used Tobacco, as a reward, as a pleasurable thing. Not as an addiction to be catered to. It certainly is becoming that for me now (shameless NT plug coming). Between NT's luscious stuff and DIY's deliciousness, vaping is much more relaxing and satisfying than smoking.
Smells great, harm reduction, lower addiction, 100% controllable and satisfaction? Winning!
Great thread Augmented!
Agreed. It probably was that easy back before BT added all the crap to the tobacco, I mean folks would have a smoke after dinner then not again till the next big, fun meal, or not, and everyone was so chill and could "just quit" but not so much since the 60's when the cigs really changed. Now vaping is like that for me, have a vape or not, no biggie. Stress hits big time and I vape like a maniac so I don't smoke. But overall vaping is a pleasure like having a piece of candy.
sloth a lil different on this definitely get a wee bit crabby if go too long without vaping it's definitely an addiction but nowhere near to the level of cigs...but still, gotta have it with me and vape throughout day or sloths no fun to be around 
That's something that I noticed unexpectedly only a few months after I stopped smoking - went out for an anniversary lunch, and even with an hour to travel there and back making almost 3 hours total, I didn't use mine until we were back home!
I knew it was there with me, but it didn't bother me at all. Had a few outings since with the same result.
True, if I'm stressed about something, I will miss it, but so far have got by without ...as long as I have something with me, I'm fine. I even keep a cig size battery and higher strength cartridges to hand for such occasions, but never used them!
My only negative apart from problems with PG and a little VG congestion, is my lack of concentration & focus, which became quite noticeable quite soon after I stopped smoking.
I get very easily distracted even if not interrupted by outside influences.
Searching found that I'm not alone with that aspect, and some people do get that.
A recent flurry of essential activity being up against a looming deadline galvanised me into action and I managed to concentrate enough - too many long nights through to dawn, but I got it just about done.
I'm hoping this is something that I can either fix or find it improves of it's own volition.
sloth a lil different on this definitely get a wee bit crabby if go too long without vaping it's definitely an addiction but nowhere near to the level of cigs...but still, gotta have it with me and vape throughout day or sloths no fun to be around
Me too! I was late for work yesterday because I realized the battery I had was just about spent so I turned around, drove back home to get a new one. The idea of not being able to vape at work almost sent me into a panic!
Me too! I was late for work yesterday because I realized the battery I had was just about spent so I turned around, drove back home to get a new one. The idea of not being able to vape at work almost sent me into a panic!
I'm in Sloth and Lynn's camp. I am vaping pretty constantly. It's not the same as the smokes where you probably would be wise to keep arms length if I had not had a one for some time, but if I have the choice I've always got a mod in my hand.
Ah, don't get me wrong ...same here! Working at home, I'm never more than a few inches away from it!
I only vape at home or when I am around a bunch of smokers at a bar or something. I have noticed that when I do 12mg in the REO, for a few days after I get nic cravings at work, but they go away after a day or so when I drop back to 6mg.
I carry at least one small APV with me everywhere - like I used to carry a pack and a zippo. I have found, though, that I don't vape anywhere near as often as I used to jump out for a smoke.
After yesterday I'm going to start keeping a battery in my lunchbox or my locker. Being late for work wasn't cool according to my team leader.
I think I'm as emotionally attached to vaping as I was smoking. It's a wonder I was never addicted to other things in my life. I do believe, like Pictor, that lack of focus is a real thing. It has to be a chemical breakdown of some sort.
I refuse to chalk it up to aging. My mind has always been sharp with amazing recall. My husband used to call me the human phone book before we all got hooked on cell phones. I can still spout off all my credit card numbers or recall numbers from the businesses financial statements from 2002.
Distractions are getting worse though and lack of focus started almost immediately after smoking ended. It's driving this type A crazy(ier). I got a prescription for something to help but I'm too distracted to take it! LOL
I refuse to chalk it up to aging. My mind has always been sharp with amazing recall. My husband used to call me the human phone book before we all got hooked on cell phones. I can still spout off all my credit card numbers or recall numbers from the businesses financial statements from 2002.
Distractions are getting worse though and lack of focus started almost immediately after smoking ended. It's driving this type A crazy(ier). I got a prescription for something to help but I'm too distracted to take it! LOL
It was some time before I made the connection, and once I did, found that there are other people that get the same problem.
It seemed obvious to me then - I'd spent all of my adult life smoking, so everything I developed into or did was literally under the influence of cigarettes. Apart from the heap of rubbish they put in them, there must be a few components of real leaf tobacco, or perhaps something that is released by burning tobacco, that affects those parts of our brain. It is an acknowledged brain stimulant after all.
I've seen that it's often noticed by writers, musicians and artists.
I know I'm getting older by the day, but to have had total focus and self-motivation with painting for over 25 years, and find it greatly lacking after giving up smoking does point to cigarettes, and is the main downside for me.
Perhaps how long and how much a person smoked is a factor, or perhaps it's something that only affects some people.
Not wanting to smoke again - I feel I've already achieved the impossible by getting past 8 months, so need to find a good solution. I may have found something to help, but I'm still waiting for vertigo to settle better before I try properly.
I do also have some WTA that I use in menthol for a short while now and then though - I think it may help a little, not quite sure though.
May be I need to retrain my concentration etc., but can't afford to hang around waiting for it to happen. Perhaps merely being aware of it will gradually make a difference.
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There are MAOI's (I think that's the term) that are in certain alkaloids when tobacco burns. So it's messing with ones Serotonin. Imagine fixing your Serotonin levels everyday and then just stopping it one day...
I also experience a certain spaciness constantly. Real PITA when I "forget" to put a Potato Gratin in the oven for the Lamb!
And WTA's have those alkaloids.
I'm not a Dr., nor do I play one on TV
I also experience a certain spaciness constantly. Real PITA when I "forget" to put a Potato Gratin in the oven for the Lamb!
And WTA's have those alkaloids.
I'm not a Dr., nor do I play one on TV
I think dopamine is a factor as well as serotonin.
I have read that the many components of cigarettes that make them even more addictive can eventually diminish the ability of brain & body to produce natural levels of dopamine and serotonin, and that once someone stops smoking, it's hard to regain the normal levels of natural production.
That sounds quite plausible to me.
This makes for some informative reading: The SECRET and SOUL of Marlboro
My thoughts about the length of time and amount of cigarettes smoked probably making the concentration/focus aspects vary once stopped do seem to be likely.
Because of that, it's also likely - I think - that the time it takes to hopefully reverse the levels of naturally produced serotonin and dopamine, may vary a lot between individuals.
Some information states a few weeks, others say longer.
I've had poor contrentration and staying focused since around a month after I stopped smoking. I think worrying about it perhaps exacerbates the issue too, but not doing so is easier said than done.
I do use a little WTA now and then, and I've been looking into foods and supplements to help levels of serotonin and dopamine. Most of the foods suggested are those that we already have in our diet, so that's not the answer for me.
I'll be trying some of the available supplements more in the coming months to see if they can kick-start things to improve permanently.
Reading the components of commercial cigarettes/tobacco is hair raising, and other information such as the effect on every part of the body just as worrying. There is every reason not to begin smoking again, and every reason to find a way to function normally without smoking cigarettes etc.
To me this all compounds the immense value of e-cigs to anyone finding it hard to give up, and for continuity for those that do stop.
To find something as excellent as NT keeps the pleasure intact and the need to smoke at bay. Clark obviously looks at all aspects of the e-liquid, including the need to keep our interest lively, our cravings satisfied, and with the extra advantages of a true family spirit.
Since we have completely hijacked this thread. I have had some limited results with HTP-5. If you haven't already, it might be worth your while to research our gabba system, controls the bulk of our physical system and a chunk of our neurological system...GABA receptor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
You could spend months of your time getting lost in some of this. Very interesting stuff!
You could spend months of your time getting lost in some of this. Very interesting stuff!
Forgettaboutit!
Consider it an online extension of the street fair, complete with non sequitur side conversations.
Thanks, I'd like to see the stats on the skew rate of threads in the NT forum! Guaranteed 99% ramble..
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