Watts and Volts and Ohms, oh my!

[Narkotiq]

I've gathered that it's best to match voltage to the ohms of *insert juice delivery system*. So, to keep it basic, I have an eGo-T 650 mAh. I've read that the low setting is 3.3 volts and the high setting is something like 4.2 volts. I also own (and just replaced the head of) a mini vivi nova with a 2.8 ohm head. So should I run it on the higher setting? I don't feel like trying to throw watts in the equation, especially since I plan on buying a provari once my research phase has completed.

Is there a chart or some form of calculation to determine 'teh sweet spot'?

I feel like I'm getting there in terms of knowledge. I'm sticking to wick tanks for the moment until I can expand. I also prefer top coils. May get into cartomizers and drippers once I can start grasping more about them. Cartotanks seem to be an awesome 'middle ground', as it were.

Thanks in advance!

 

[YMe1121]

here is a good power chart: VAPING POWER CHART! Found Via... | GrimmGreenIndustries

but if i am correct, the battery , unless it is a twist, shouldn't really give you the option of changing voltage. it just goes down as the battery is used. me personally, with an ego, i would go with either the 1.8Ohm head or the 2.4 Ohm head and stay there

 

[Narkotiq]

According to that chart, and holy freakin thank you by the way, I'm still in the green. The eGo can be set to 'high' if you hold the fire button down for 8 seconds while it's off. I've accidentally kicked it up while it was in my pocket either from car to home or car to work. I don't pocket it for any other reason as I dislike having anything that incinerates anything somewhere I can't see it. Even lighters I dislike in the pocket because I'm not about to saturate my jeans with butane.

Next time I replace the head (or since they're cheap, tomorrow), I'll ask about lower ohms. One of the local vape shops is pretty good on prices, ProVari's are 5 dollarbucks more than the sale price listed on provape. The starter kit is 10 dollarbucks more, but I'm not paying shipping and it's instant.

 

[Baditude]

I wasn't aware you could adjust the voltage in an eGo T battery, either. Only the Joytech Twist, or Vision Spinner, or Smokeless Image Spinner have the ability to adjust voltage.

Since you seem to be interested in learning more about juice delivery devices, I've created a blog article on the more common ones here. I've included a basic description, photos of them in use, and a demo video on how each one is filled.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3230-1-proper-terminology-carto-tank-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html

My personal recommendation would be trying a cartotank: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html

The above recommendation of the Safe Vaping Power Chart is a good one. It may be the easiest way to understand what ohm atomizer to use safely for the voltage range that your battery device is capable of. The author of the chart wrote an interesting article on how to find your "sweet spot" with different ohms and voltages: Guide to Safe Vaping - E-Cigarette Safety | Ecig Advanced Community Blog

 

[YMe1121]

maybe the ego voltage change is only on some of them, because mine does not do that...now i feel kinda jipped lol

 

[jSquared]

The upgrade batteries let you switch between regulated 3.3V and unregulated.

JJ

 

[Rocketpunk]

Baditude, I've seen some "eGos" lately that are clearly knockoffs, but they have "variable voltage" (I say that without knowing for a fact, because the ones I've seen have always had problems with them). Supposedly, if you click the fire button an x amount of times, the color of the button will change, which indicates a "jump in voltage". The battery even has a digital battery life indicator a la the eGo/kGo VVs. The ones I've held were shoddily made and weren't functioning properly. Of course, they came from the flea market, so... that could be a reason.

 

[Narkotiq]

I'm going to give the next half hour to that blog, Baditude. You were actually specifically referenced in my last thread, so I feel like I just got offered car advice from a celebrity ^0^ Thank you much!

I wanted to ask before I decided to test myself, but I went ahead and put it on the high setting (light turns amber instead of blue), and what I noticed is that it may be burning the wick and the drag was quite warm. As such, I would recommend NOT turning it up. It only has the two settings, what the high setting is for I do not know. eGo-T upgrade is what is printed on the battery, perhaps that has something to do with it.
But in conclusion, it may be more than 4.2 volts that I read elsewhere, or it's burning the juice and/or wick. Pretty sure it's just a cotton wick as well. The local vapor shops are so busy I dislike taking up an employees time with questions when they can serve customers, and usually hang around for about 15 or 20 minutes to fire off the couple questions I do have.

The more I learn, the more I find there is to learn. Just watched the "dodeca coil" video on youtube and I see that being FAR away, if I ever delve into mechanicals and rebuildables.

 

[jSquared]

Baditude, I've seen some "eGos" lately that are clearly knockoffs, but they have "variable voltage" (I say that without knowing for a fact, because the ones I've seen have always had problems with them). Supposedly, if you click the fire button an x amount of times, the color of the button will change, which indicates a "jump in voltage". The battery even has a digital battery life indicator a la the eGo/kGo VVs. The ones I've held were shoddily made and weren't functioning properly. Of course, they came from the flea market, so... that could be a reason.

Whilst I don't doubt that there are some knockoffs which do exactly the same thing, there are also genuine Joyetech batteries that have this feature (albeit without the digital display):

Joyetech eGo-C Upgrade Battery

JJ

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

Baditude, I've seen some "eGos" lately that are clearly knockoffs, but they have "variable voltage" (I say that without knowing for a fact, because the ones I've seen have always had problems with them). Supposedly, if you click the fire button an x amount of times, the color of the button will change, which indicates a "jump in voltage". The battery even has a digital battery life indicator a la the eGo/kGo VVs. The ones I've held were shoddily made and weren't functioning properly. Of course, they came from the flea market, so... that could be a reason.

Yeah i had one of those. Actually its a passthru too (screw open the bottom cap and plug in USB cord) with 5-click adjustable voltage (3.3 - 3.7 - 4.2). For $15 it was great, on par with my genuine eGo stuff and much cheaper, also the passthru option is awesome. Shorted it one too many times though...

 

[Narkotiq]

I suppose I should mention that perhaps my wicks weren't quite saturated enough on my first 'amber' attempt, as now I am getting far bigger vapor clouds with my 2.8 ohm nova head. No off taste of any sort. Not sure how long the battery will last, as I vape as much as I smoke, and smoked as much as my wallet would let me buy packs.

However I would really recommend that others should only use the higher setting if they know that they have a higher ohm coil, as I have no doubt that the 'disposable' tank that comes with the eGo starter kit is of lower ohms. Rather easy to get the 'burnt' taste with the stock tank with too long of a drag. I am ever so grateful for the vivi nova I was gifted.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Whilst I don't doubt that there are some knockoffs which do exactly the same thing, there are also genuine Joyetech batteries that have this feature (albeit without the digital display):

Joyetech eGo-C Upgrade Battery

JJ

I've seen two of those and googled them and couldn't make heads or tails of their directions.*

The others I mentioned were obvious knock-offs with digital led towards the bottom of the battery.

*Lost in translation?

The eGo-C upgrade battery: is the newest improvement of Joytetech. Based on the present eGo-C battery, this upgrade battery has the new function mode --- battery voltage output mode (variable voltage output mode). In this mode, the voltage will change as the battery power changes instead of constant 3.3v output. With high voltage, this will give you a better vapor feeling.
You can also change the mode easily for your choices following the steps shown below:



Special features of eGo-C upgrade battery

This Joyetech upgrade battery has two modes to switch. One is the constant voltage output mode which is what we have used before. Another is variable voltage output mode.
Switching operation and features :
1. From constant voltage output mode to new battery voltage output:
1.1 When the mode is 3.3.v constant output mode, you can lock the battery by 5 clicks (blue LED blinks 3 times).
1.2 By pressing button for 5 seconds, LED will change to orange with 3 blinks. The battery has switched
to variable voltage output mode (battery voltage output mode).
1.3 Then you can use as usual by 5 clicks off and smoke in battery voltage output.
1.4 In new battery voltage output mode, the LED is orange and battery doesn't have power display function.
1.5 When charging, orange LED will blink 5 times in this new mode.
2. From new battery voltage output to constant voltage output mode:
2.1 In new battery voltage output mode, you can lock the battery by 5 clicks again (orange LED blinks 3 times).
2.2 By pressing button for 5 seconds, LED will change to blue with 3 blinks. And the mode has switched to
3.3V constant voltage output mode.
2.3 Then you can use as usual by 5 clicks off and smoke in 3.3V constant voltage.
2.4 In 3.3V constant voltage, the battery features has no difference from present eGo-C battery.
2.5 When charging, blue LED blinks 5 times in this mode.

 

[Narkotiq]

They went a little too in-depth I believe. They threw in the locking system as well as changing from 3.3v to 'unregulated', and charging it.

Basically, locking and unlocking the eGo is 5 clicks of the fire button, with flashes to show you that it's changing from locked to unlocked, and vice versa.

While locked, if you hold the button down for 5-8 seconds, it will then flash the color indicating it's mode. Amber for high, and blue for 3.3v.

You then unlock the fire button, it'll flash it's appropriate color, and voila, you can vape in it's current setting.

From what I've heard, it will power itself down from amber to blue when the battery gets low on charge.

 

[jSquared]

I've seen two of those and googled them and couldn't make heads or tails of their directions.*

The others I mentioned were obvious knock-offs with digital led towards the bottom of the battery.

*Lost in translation?

To be honest, whilst the use of English is less than spectacular, I didn't have any problems understanding the directions. Narkotiq has summed it all up quite nicely, if you're still confused.

The instructions that were bundled with my first eGo-C starter kit included a section about the upgrade battery, which is how I came to be aware of it's existence in the first place. I don't often see them for sale, though.

JJ