... Of course who would determine necessary and effective could be problematic.
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Yeah... That's kinda the Rub in Most things. Who Decides?
... Of course who would determine necessary and effective could be problematic.
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I've heard that there once was a time when the government gathered the best and the brightest into agencies that could use their specialized knowledge to facilitate policy decisions for the good of the people. What happened?Yeah... That's kinda the Rub in Most things. Who Decides?
Seriously? When was that?I've heard that there once was a time when the government gathered the best and the brightest into agencies that could use their specialized knowledge to facilitate policy decisions for the good of the people.
Correct.Just to clarify, that's actually Judge Garland's concurring opinion.
Right. They show no signs of easing off at all.The FDA could choose not to apply all of that cigarette specific regulation to vapor products, but they don't seem to be inclined to do so.
That was actually my naive impression of the FDA and CDC, prior to entering the world of vaping.Seriously? When was that?
Correct.
Right. They show no signs of easing off at all.
I don't think any anti-cigarette zealots (the FDA is probably full of such people) will ever think reasonably about, or be accepting of, e-cigarettes for one big reason. People who vape generally exhale a vapor that reminds the zealots of seeing smoke exhaled from a real cigarette. The anti's will never be able to mentally get past their hatred for that action/appearance.
One of the most appealing things to a smoker about switching to e-cigarette use -- exhaling a vapor that resembles smoke -- is the very thing that drives the Anti Nicotine and Tobacco Zealots (ANTZ) nutz.
The FDA isn't about to ease off on how badly it wants to smash e-cigarettes to smithereens.
And when you consider that many ANTZ are supportive of smoking and vaping other stuff, it's dizzying contradiction upon contradiction.Correct.
Right. They show no signs of easing off at all.
I don't think any anti-cigarette zealots (the FDA is probably full of such people) will ever think reasonably about, or be accepting of, e-cigarettes for one big reason. People who vape generally exhale a vapor that reminds the zealots of seeing smoke exhaled from a real cigarette. The anti's will never be able to mentally get past their hatred for that action/appearance.
One of the most appealing things to a smoker about switching to e-cigarette use -- exhaling a vapor that resembles smoke -- is the very thing that drives the Anti Nicotine and Tobacco Zealots (ANTZ) nutz.
The FDA isn't about to ease off on how badly it wants to smash e-cigarettes to smithereens.
15% would be better than 0.1% but you're right, I do think they would still try to kill the industry. Imagine though if they were actually required to provide proof of what they suggest, instead of falling back on it's tobacco, and we need to protect the children from becoming future tobacco addicts.This raises another important point about third classification. ANTZ would be hip to this the moment we became public about it (on forums and blogs, and for sure by time we went to try and legislate change). You think they'd just back off and say, 'oh okay, now that it's no longer being considered a tobacco product, we'll go easy on you all?' IMO, they'd go for the kill and argue vehemently with legislators that it ought to be outright banned. Compromise for them would be ban 85% of it and 15% of can maybe be allowed, as long as it is taxed and all that tax money goes to funding anti type propaganda.
They'd probably thank us along the way for this new classification. While we are busy still doing cartwheels from it no longer being under the FDA's jurisdiction.
It appears they all turned out to be little sneaky conniving weasels.I've heard that there once was a time when the government gathered the best and the brightest into agencies that could use their specialized knowledge to facilitate policy decisions for the good of the people. What happened?
I've heard that there once was a time when the government gathered the best and the brightest into agencies that could use their specialized knowledge to facilitate policy decisions for the good of the people. What happened?
We went to the moon once...The best and the Brightest?
Yeah, that was when we had chain-smoking engineers who knew how to get things done.We went to the moon once...
We went to the moon once...
Yeah, that was when we had chain-smoking engineers who knew how to get things done.
I've heard that there once was a time when the government gathered the best and the brightest into agencies that could use their specialized knowledge to facilitate policy decisions for the good of the people. What happened?
Does this look like a hydrogen flame to you?Thank goodness for LOX/LH2 and nicotine!
Yeah, that was when we had chain-smoking engineers who knew how to get things done.
The prototype NA-73X was rolled out in September 1940, just 102 days after the order had been placed; it first flew on 26 October 1940, 149 days into the contract, an uncommonly short gestation period even during the war.
Yeah, mine too.That was actually my naive impression of the FDA and CDC, prior to entering the world of vaping.