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JahLove7124

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I've been mixing my own juice for about a month or two now, and so far I have a few recipes nailed down the way I like them. I had this weird mind blank tonight that has kind of confused me now...

Example. A recipe totals 15 ml. If I were to want to make a 30 ml batch, would I need to double the flavor percentages to get the same blend?
 

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I have to put everything on a juice calculator and see that it is right. I try my best not to think. (I get in a lot less trouble that way)
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Example. A recipe totals 15 ml. If I were to want to make a 30 ml batch, would I need to double the flavor percentages to get the same blend?
Let's think about it for a minute. What if, instead of only doubling the batch size, you wanted to make ten times as much? Say your initial recipe calls for 10% flavor. If you multiply that by ten, then your big batch is now 100% flavor, and you have no room left for anything else. Success! No mixing required, just dump the flavor straight in your tank and vape away! Oh wait...

10% is 10%. It doesn't matter if it's 10% of 15ml, or of 15L. It's still one part in ten, or ten parts per hundred (that's literally what "percent" means: "per centa" or "for every hundred.")

The only way that doubling the flavor percentages makes any sense at all, is if you double all the other ones as well. And then your recipe would add up to 200%. In the end, I guess you'd get the same result, but it's not the "right" way to do it. Probably better just to leave the percentages alone (all of them) and just multiply each one by 30ml for the final amounts, instead of by 15ml.

You should definitely use a juice calculator.
I am of the mind that "getting the right answer" is less important than "knowing how to get the answer." I guess the math comes more easily to some folks than it does to others, but the only reason I would ever use a juice calculator would be to check my work. A regular calculator, sure, but I don't need a juice calculator. (Maybe I'll change my tune once I actually start mixing some extraordinarily complex recipe, but I doubt it. I mean, a percentage is a percentage. Just make sure they all add up to 100, and multiply each one by the final amount.) I would say the opposite, actually: "You can use a juice calculator to make things simpler, but you should definitely still know how to do it without one."
 

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Let's think about it for a minute. What if, instead of only doubling the batch size, you wanted to make ten times as much? Say your initial recipe calls for 10% flavor. If you multiply that by ten, then your big batch is now 100% flavor, and you have no room left for anything else. Success! No mixing required, just dump the flavor straight in your tank and vape away! Oh wait...

10% is 10%. It doesn't matter if it's 10% of 15ml, or of 15L. It's still one part in ten, or ten parts per hundred (that's literally what "percent" means: "per centa" or "for every hundred.")

The only way that doubling the flavor percentages makes any sense at all, is if you double all the other ones as well. And then your recipe would add up to 200%. In the end, I guess you'd get the same result, but it's not the "right" way to do it. Probably better just to leave the percentages alone (all of them) and just multiply each one by 30ml for the final amounts, instead of by 15ml.


I am of the mind that "getting the right answer" is less important than "knowing how to get the answer." I guess the math comes more easily to some folks than it does to others, but the only reason I would ever use a juice calculator would be to check my work. A regular calculator, sure, but I don't need a juice calculator. (Maybe I'll change my tune once I actually start mixing some extraordinarily complex recipe, but I doubt it. I mean, a percentage is a percentage. Just make sure they all add up to 100, and multiply each one by the final amount.) I would say the opposite, actually: "You can use a juice calculator to make things simpler, but you should definitely still know how to do it without one."
Yes, you should know about percentages and whatnot because a calculator can have bugs.

But to me, calculating the numbers is just one aspect of a GOOD juice calculator.
Storing the flavors you have on hand and also various recipes is a big part of it to me.
Could not imagine using typed or written notes on all of that stuff.
I'll bet most DIY'ers use a calculator like Juice Calculator. It makes making recipes real fun and the process very smooth.
Just my opinion of course.
 
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