Weird problem with x-long battery and carts

[FisherPal]

Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. I have a silver x-long manual and a white one. I have a variety of carts purchased at different times. On the silver one, any and all carts fit and work fine. But on the white one, some do but a lot don't. They just won't screw down far enough. And I have tried using a bit more force but when they stop, they stop and they just won't go down any further. Have the same prob with one of the manual passthru's. Upon looking at the connection end of the carts closely, I can see that there are some differences - small ones but they are there - and this seems to be the problem. Do you think if I just took a file and filed the end off a bit it would hurt anything? Anyone else having this happen?

 

[Pekingduk]

I have the same issue. The cartomizers that I ordered previously, don't seem to work on the newer batteries. I know Steve has gotten newer cartomizers, so hopefully the newer ones will work on the manual and longer batteries. I will keep using my automatic batteries, cuz they are the bomb.

Seriously, I do think I like the regular, old automatic batteries better.

 

[Trunus]

I just got my kit and I have the same issue. I have just have the manual kit. All the raspberries fill all the batteries. Only two apples fit one battery thou. I looked close at them and found numbers on everything. The carts that only work on certain batteries are apple and thye both say 07 2009. I am guessing that is the manufacturing date. If you want to see the numbers you may need a jewlers loop or something, but they are on the connectors for the batteries and cartos. This is just on the small amount of stuff I have already thou..

 

[Runkmud]

Havin' the same issue with a short manual battery. Screws on fine with some but not with others. Luckily they all still work with my auto.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

I read on another site that there has been others with the same problem and that the carts may not fit on the batteries with out the grove in the center... now I am not sure with the new manuals, but this issue was mainly talking about the shorter KR auto's with out the grove.
now if it is a newer battery but you have an "older" cart that may be the issue..

Note: I haven't came across this issue so I can't say first hand... I just informing that it is a common problem.

not talking about the manuals . are you using it on autos and do the autos have a grove in the center of the connection? do the carts have one on the batt connection?

Maybe someone can research or if already have the knowledge can elaborate more.. until I can find out more exact info

 

[Trunus]

I see what you mean about the grove. My manuals batteries don't have it. My auto passthrough does have it. Thanks for the info. As for the carts Apples have 07 2009 on them and the raspberry has 09 2009. You have to have a very good eye to see it or a magnifier to see them.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

very interesting as well I didn't notice that until I looked at a "dirty" connector on my cart... that's good to know I have to investigate that a bit more when I can find a magni-glass because I can't read it clearly I know it is a date though

Note: date is just to indicate the age of the cart not the juice inside no telling when it was filled (by manufacturer or supplier)

I see what you mean about the grove. My manuals batteries don't have it. My auto passthrough does have it. Thanks for the info. As for the carts Apples have 07 2009 on them and the raspberry has 09 2009. You have to have a very good eye to see it or a magnifier to see them.

 

[Panda04]

I have the new manual batteries, and extra long, new and old carts. They all seem to be working fine for me.

Andy

 

[JenJen]

I have the new manual batteries, and extra long, new and old carts. They all seem to be working fine for me.

Andy

Me too! And I even bought some of those old coffee cartos Steve had on clearance to move in the new inventory - they work great on all my new manual batteries... That is really strange! Sounds like maybe that particular batteries thread is a bit off and the new cartos accomodate it, but the old ones won't? You know Steve though, he will fix it for you!

 

[kc0cmp]

I have the new manual batteries, and extra long, new and old carts. They all seem to be working fine for me.

Andy

I have maybe 1 or two carts that refuse to work with certain batteries or with my auto passthrough..but work fine with everything else. this sounds like a manufacturing tolerance problem. As for fixes, I dont have any genius level ideas at the moment, the one or two i have that refuse to work on one of my auto passthroughs and one or two of my batteries do work on the others, including my new manual stuff.

I can't even say what's at fault..although i'd blame the cartomizers...as the ones i have that are fouling up are used/reused and i used to have to wrench them down a little tighter to get them flush..and i figured that i had distorted the cartomizer in the process..but thats mine, i cant speak for new ones that don't fit and work, havn't had that issue so far..but it doesn't mean that i won't.

 

[FisherPal]

I'm not sure it has anything much to do about whether or not the manual battery has a groove in it like the autos. As I mentioned, I have an x-long gray manual and everything screws on it just fine. Think I'll try a metal file and just slightly file the top thread - it's just as if it is the teeniest bit too long for the carts.

 

[NJDrew]

Just throwing an idea out there: If I had to guess the center posts are not making a connection. The center post of the cartomizer is just tightly fitted into the housing. You could try to take a dental pick or a pointed knife and just slightly pry up on the post of the cartomizer. It wont move very much since the wire connected from the post to the housing holds everything together, but it might move enough to make a solid contact.

p.s. If you are going to try this be gental. It should only need to move a mm or 2. If you yank on the post the wire may break contact with the housing and the cart is done for.

 

[FisherPal]

Actually have decided to leave well enough alone. If the cart doesn't fit on the one manual battery, it will fit on the other. Just one of those niggly things those that drives me crazy as I have been trying to figure out just what, exactly, the difference is between these two. One of life's great mysteries, methinks. At least for me. Maybe someone who is more technically savvy can figure it out.

 

[Wormwood]

Ive noticed differences in the threads and some things might sit differently, but everything works on everything that ive tried. I am glad its all working here.

 

[PhoenixRising]

I had this happen as well...or at least I thought I did. Turned out to be slight burrs on the metal of the offending battery. I twisted a little harder and then id a sort of twist on/twist off action and it worked. After that - no issues. I would suggest this brute force method with an empty cartomizer (just in case). I am sure there is a better method with perhaps a metal file, but this seemed to work fine for me and I hope it also works for you guys!

 

[zztommis]

I posted this in another thread somewhere, but I get this too. I can take a new carto, screw it onto any one of the auto batteries, and they ALWAYS work. Same new carto may or may not work on either the XL or standard manual. If it won't screw all the way down, there's no amount of twisting back and forth, cranking down, or anything that will make it go on. I just try to always have an auto battery with me.

On a side note:
I'm not crazy about the XL, especially as compared to the standard manual batteries. When I first got it, I loved the "manual-ness", and still do. But too few cartos fit correctly, and even when they do, some still don't draw right. (I didn't realize the draw thing until I got the standard length ones.) I hate to pester Steve about this one, though, because the XL battery does work. His great customer service is legendary, but at what point is it taking advantage of him just because I'm picky?

 

[needvapor]

Sounds like to me you got some Older carts on your hands!