Well, my first e-cig experience.... :(

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lachesis

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Finally got my order. There was some mix up, so I ended up getting 2 different e-cigs by mistake. I originally ordered RN4081 kit + extra battery and atomizers and usb charger, but it came with DSE901 kit + RN4081 batteries + RN4081 atomizer / usb charger. Using USB and AC, I charged both up and puffed more than I should have... ;)

and here's my first impression.

I didn't really have much problem with initial primer taste that I was so afraid of - perhaps because I was dripping onto atomizer directly. Much sweeter than I anticipated even with regular tobacco flavor.

Vapor production for dripping rn4081 was better and easier than my anticipation - short prim puff with slow-even puff - but I'm having a bit of hard time with dse901, which I'm using included carts and tasted some liquid from the pre-filled cart - which wasn't too pleasant - but I think I'll get hang of it eventually for that as well. Right now, I'm prefering rn4081 direct dripping than DSE901's cart - and I also tried to drip on DSE901 - but the sampler bottles have little short neck, so I was missing the wick often. (now washed and being dried).

I also got pretty good juices from PV and TW, so the throat hit was rather good on low 11mg ones, and higher ones definitely had more kick to it. I'm getting a little bit of dry-mouth and throat - but that was to be expected.

However, the thing that was little bit let down was the true "chest" hit. The vapor, perhaps wasn't hot enough or heavy enough to really fill my lungs like analogs. I was buzzed with nicotine, no problem - and the inhaling part is definitely there - but the "chest" hit just didn't occur for my 2 minis.

I also have a 3rd one coming my way (DSE801) with usb pass-through - and hope it would be a bit better for the "chest" hit.... (due to the order mix up, I'm a total newb, but already have 3 e-cig units! LOL! Well, now I have my back-ups covered. :D

One thing for sure is that I'm enjoying vaping. It really does mimick the sensation of smoking quite well - except above mentioned lung hit. Perhaps when I inhale, I'd hold out a bit longer to exhale - maybe that would help too. But it does seem like I'm taking too much nicotine, and feel little buzzed right now. I'm a moderate smoker who smokes about half ppd to 3/4 ppd normally, with Marlboro Lights. (about 15 yr history... over broken heart) So I'm planning to stick to 0mg and vape alot, and drip 11mg/18mg juices that I have only when I have some serious nic craving.

I was quite excited, and my journey of getting an e-cig actually was testing my patience - that out of 3 places I tried, 2 of them were out of stock, and 1 had a little bit of mistake, which my order was processed but not shipped. But finally, after 3 long weeks of trying out different places, I have mine... I really can't say the experience wasn't good. However, it wasn't as good as I hoped to be, due to the lack of "chest" hit.

I'm about to go to bed now, and just had an analog for that "chest" hit. Yes, compare to e-cigs, they do tast like ****, but it did deliver some chest hit I have 4 more analogs left in the box, and I do plan to quit the analog for good, when those are gone tomorrow morning.

Maybe I had my hopes too high - but my first e-cig experience wasn't total failure either, and I am willing to go down the vaping only road from now on. :) I'm a rather lazy one to cut/make my own 0mg juice - I'd like to ask some advice/recommendation for any good 0mg juice - that has plenty of vapor. (Throat hit isn't too important, as I know most 0mg doesn't have much of kicks).

Lastly, I appreciate, and would like to thank everyone on this forum for sharing your thoughts and wisdom - that during the past 3 weeks of waiting, I learned quite a lot. :)

lach
 

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Yes, I would absolutely have to agree with the general theme that I got from your post. It's something that I've seen many times on this board.

"Vaping is not an exact duplicate for smoking."

Kate would always post a link to a video about this for new vapers (I miss Kate, such a kind soul), but I am typing on my Wii so I don't have the flexibility to go find it. Hopefully one of the old salts here will post a link for us.

But, I did want to respond because my wife and I were just talking about this. We both find that if we just reach for the PV instead of the analog (and here's the trick) without really thinking about "it"....the need for a nic fix, analog vs. PV, etc.....then we just puff away on the PV and eventually put it down, satisfied. It seems to be an almost subconcious thing.

I may seem a little off here, but it makes sense to me :D All I know is that analogs are evil!!
 
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lachesis

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Yikes, 36mg would be way too much nic for me. ;) I think even 18 or 11 is pretty strong for my use. I'm little cautious on the nic level, as I'm enjoying vaping a lot - especially that slightly sweet taste.

I just finished off my last analog. Never going back to that thing. I was reading up the Kate's post regarding vaping isn't total substitution for smoking post - quite a long one that is. ;) Isn't Kate's ban period is over though, btw?

Well even without weak "chest/lung" hit - I believe I'll get used to it. I have to, because it's my life on the line. I explained the whole thing to my wife, a non smoker and she has a nose like a dog - she could even sniff out the slightest hint on smokes - allowed me vaping in-house. I told her this doesn't have the cancer causing chemicals/tars, and even though she's not 100% persuaded - but I can now vape in bathroom and when I'm alone in a room.

I think I'm in love with my new rn4081. DSE901 is good, but I actually prefer rn4081 - so easy to drip, and so portable. Dripping I also found is a good way to control my nic level - just 2 drops each time I want to puff. However, each time makes me want a little more and more - so I'm just going to get 0mg ones and fill up the carts, and only drip when I have nic craving. My USB pass-through for rn4081 from PS is coming soon, so I can't wait for that...!
 

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I'd hint toward coffee too for that added chest hit. I don't know why, but it seems to do the trick, i have a 18mg TW coffee here and it packs a chest punch like noone of the other juices i've tried so far. Still far from analogs though.

Oh, and i have seen some posts by Kate recently. We should start an happy dance thread, were we raise her from her nun state to Popess of the Wholey Tecnofoggers Order XD
 

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Well, I just bought a bottle of Glycerin.. It doesn't say Vegitable, nor food grade, nor whatever - just 99.5% Glycerin. On the bottle, it says do not ingest.... so I might have wasted 4 dollars. (Well, I'll just use on my skin then - as I do have some dry skin issue).

And after reading up the whole VG debate... I'm not really sure which way I should go, so I just decided to just stick to whatever the supplier is making. To control a flavor/strength, I'll just get 0mg bottle of same, and just mix half and half... Well, a lot of money, but still cheaper than 10 dollar cigs in NYC.

My only other concern is that I'm feeling little sleepy after vaping. Dry throat/mouth issue is alright as I can cope with it no problem - but it my eye lids feels rather heavy and sleepy. (Not dizzy nor any unpleasant feeling - just nice, relaxed, want to take a nap kinda feeling). I hope I won't fall a sleep at my desk while working! ;)
 

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So... I got home after a long day from work, and what did I get. A brand new rn4081 usb pass-through from Puresmoker, in my mailbox. :D (Although the sticker says it's DSE101(?) - but it fit in my atomizer just fine.

And.. bam. My complaints of chest/lung it is almost gone with Cash Menthol. I was so surprised of the performance, I'm now trying out the riskee yuice, and still quite good too. I'm glad that I have that kensington portable usb power pack, I think I'm just going to use the usb one quite extensively - and have batteries being my "backup" unit.

At this point I'm quite satisfied with rn4081... that I'm thinking about actually returning DSE 901, or maybe get 901 pass-through battery as well. :D

I can't wait to try out the big pen style this weekend, especially with USB pass-through as well!
 

lachesis

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Finally, I got my 3rd unit. BE112, aka Beci's DSE 801. Starter kit, USB-PT, 10 empty cartridges, 5 atomizers, etc. It came with "low" nic menthol that I ordered... and it's missing 10ml bottle sample that was supposed to come with, but I'm not too concerned about it at the moment.

As a lot of people said regarding this - it's got great, smooth draw, with plenty of vapor. only problem I'm having with this right now is that the low-nic has almost no throat hit, even though it's making decent amount of vapor. I'm going to try out with 18mg TW liquid and see how it holds up. Other than that - I like the fact that it's pretty big and heavy-duty. I think I'm gonna use this for my home use mostly - or maybe leave 1 unit at work, and 1 at home... and use the 901 and rn4081 on the run. The battery seems to be rather sensitive side as Sun and others have mentioned before - but not enough to really cause any trouble for me.

Now all of my new gadgets are here... it's now a matter of organization. So many little things here and there - so I think some hardware box/vitamin box order might be in order. ;) I'm still getting some analog urges, but I've been able to fight it off with some puffs. about 48 hours into not smoking an analog... so far so good. :)
 
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