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Yes, but really... did you have as much fun "smoking".
Early on I threw money at everything myself but have since settled down to those things that simply "satisfy" me the best with as little hassle as possible. The exception being I'll hose off my kayfun and recoil it every now and then. I've saved plenty since but yes indeed... those initial endeavors can add up.
Yes, but really... did you have as much fun "smoking".
Early on I threw money at everything myself but have since settled down to those things that simply "satisfy" me the best with as little hassle as possible. The exception being I'll hose off my kayfun and recoil it every now and then. I've saved plenty since but yes indeed... those initial endeavors can add up.
Depends on the E-Liquid you go through, depends if you keep upgrading, buying batteries to replace old ones, cotton, kanthal etc. Take that yearly over how many cigs you did smoke which I wasn't even a pack a day guy. You'l have enough for a down payment for a car.
OK want to get technical? Lets say it takes years from 14-50 smoking and all the cartons you went through and lighters. Compared to all upgrades, cotton, kanthal, batteries, drip tips, tonnnnnnnns of e-liquid, even samples of e-luquid, mods, mechs. Lets say every year. Vs. Cigarettes. Yes you'd save money smoking cigarettes and hospital bill (if you get cancer) in the in the given time span. On benefit side? is lower chance of getting cancer with vaping. Nicotine is still a poison, just we aren't taking the soaked in chemicals from Philip Morris that's legal. this doesn't mean you won't go to the hospital and get cancer from vaping nicotine either nicotine is still a poison to the body. It still causes cancer. Unless you are 0 nic guy.Think of the money you will save on your health insurance, hospital bills, etc.
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Do you even realize what you just said there? You know how many studies there are on Nicotine. Its LESS chance than cigarettes. Anything you put forgien to your body to alter it even caffeine raises blood pressure and heart rate. Look up and google nicotine and cacner. Its a less chance but it can alter the cells, the chance is still there. Its either take a chance or not. LIke you do with cigarettes. Its liking having one bullet in the chamber of a gun and pulling it. Who knows if it'll fire the bullet but the chance is still their
Ok, lets pull up myths on everything, with with (OTHER STUFF ) which because of this forums I can't talk drugs although the name of this domain had cigarette in the title which is related to a drug "nicotine" that's just legal. If you feel comfortable in the blanket of denial that's fine with me. I use it because I'm addicted. Why else would you use nicotine or juices containing it? To replace analog addictive substance aka cigarettes. I stand by comment.
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That does not make a myth a fact. Burning tobacco, specifically tar causes cancer. Nicotine does not. Caffeine does not.
If you look closely at the nicotine studies, they have been looking at it with smoking a cigarette as the method of delivery, which is not what we do.
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If you look closely at the nicotine studies, they have been looking at it with smoking a cigarette as the method of delivery, which is not what we do.
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You know what I'm going to do, be the better man here and stop. Because the great debate will make this thread 9999 posts. So I'm out. I expressed what I think is fact and seems others go against it and that's cool either way. But I'm out, I don't feel like constantly posting facts and all of us googleing and all that. No point in arguing.
I don't have time now to search for all the links to recent studies that proof the positive effects of nicotine on quite a lot of diseases. You will probably not even believe these independant studies.
And you don't have to get cancer from smoking, other diseases like COPD are bad enough.
I know someone with COPD-stage 4 and he can't even walk 40 meters. He started vaping far too late.
And you don't have to get cancer from smoking, other diseases like COPD are bad enough.
I know someone with COPD-stage 4 and he can't even walk 40 meters. He started vaping far too late.
All I buy now are coils and juice, it takes a while to get over the I want that syndrome.
It's OK to go a little overboard with the hardware; eventually, those purchases slow down (unless you're the kind that always wants the next latest, greatest thing.)
Yeah, I completely get that. Its just becoming a hobby. You know like, oh this mech mod hits like this the art work on it and etc. Its just became a hobby. But yeah for sure, ppl like hobbyist on it. In the end run will cost. But you know what? Thinking on it, any hobby you have specially cars or anything cost alot in the end run.
Four family members have died of cancer and they did smoke, all my grandparents. I even saw my grandpa cough up black things, I watched him turn to nothing, I watched it affect his brain, meaning he wasn't there anymore from cancer spreading. Graphic I know, I was 14 when I saw that. Here's the kicker. I'd visit him in the hospital take a break to go smoke. He smoked I think kinda near 3 packs a day. Others smoked. Cancer is almost a common cause of death like heart attacks basically. I smoked 14 - 28 stopped, started a medication that I'm not going to list and it made me want to smoke again. I never was even a pack a day guy. I'd say near half a pack a day. I have a super addictive personality.
Nicotine doesn't cause cancer. Thats been well researched and documented. You might get cancer from all that kool-aid you've been drinking though.
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