What do you do after you drop a battery?

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bushmaster

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I know that batteries can explode and dropping one is probably not real smart. Clumsy fool that I am, I've dropped more than one battery. I can't afford to throw a battery away because I dropped it.
Any suggestions as to how one might know if a dropped battery has sustained damage? Does checking voltage before/after dropping a battery give it a relatively clear bill of health?
 

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I don't know either. But why don't you mark it with something and later down the road if anything peculiar comes up batt wise and it happens to be to one your using, you will know. I don't think i'd worry too much if it isn't dented or the covering broken. But i'm not you either. (Not trying to be a smart alec about it, hope you don't.
 
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I know that batteries can explode and dropping one is probably not real smart. Clumsy fool that I am, I've dropped more than one battery. I can't afford to throw a battery away because I dropped it.
Any suggestions as to how one might know if a dropped battery has sustained damage? Does checking voltage before/after dropping a battery give it a relatively clear bill of health?
I am no battery expert as long as there is no damage to the battery visibly I would check it with my volt meter if its holding a charge I would use it . If its really bothering you roger you could put the battery on the charger in a safe place.If the battery charges with no issues your good to go
 

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I am no battery expert as long as there is no damage to the battery visibly I would check it with my volt meter if its holding a charge I would use it . If its really bothering you roger you could put the battery on the charger in a safe place.If the battery charges with no issues your good to go
That's pretty much what I do, Robert. Truth is, I always charge my batteries in a safe place--on the hearth behind my wood stove. Even if one blows up back there, no damage done. Being on the hearth at floor level, the heat from the stove is a minimal factor.
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That's pretty much what I do, Robert. Truth is, I always charge my batteries in a safe place--on the hearth behind my wood stove. Even if one blows up back there, no damage done. Being on the hearth at floor level, the heat from the stove is a minimal factor.
Thanks for the comeback, Robert and everyone.:)
Smart man the hearth is a great place
 

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I don't know either. But why don't you mark it with something and later down the road if anything peculiar comes up batt wise and it happens to be to one your using, you will know. I don't think i'd worry too much if it isn't dented or the covering broken. But i'm not you either. (Not trying to be a smart alec about it, hope you don't.

All my batteries would be marked :)

I use a charging bag but, I'm pretty sure that around the country, the threat of shorting power cords is a lot more hazardous than the threat of exploding batteries.
 
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With protected batteries, the ones with pcb, there is a chance of the pcb being damaged or connection to battery detached. Then you are using a Li-ion, that needs protection, without the protection.

I'm unsure how we could test them outside of a lab or other place equipped to do so. I drop batteries enough that I won't use those requiring protection, for high drain, like vaping and a few of our high drain flashlights.

For the "safe chemistry" I think it's a good idea to mark them and then watch "behavior" as others have suggested. That's what I like to do. I use a small piece of masking tape on one side.

I have one protected, old but was still taking a charge (18650) that I've been storing to give to someone for flashlights. When I went to get it out of storage, to charge, the bottom of casing cracked open and the pcb fell out. When we were using that for vaping, before I switched us to IMR, was the pcb, or its connection to battery, faulty or damaged? I'm glad we never had the opportunity to find out.

I, too, will be watching thread and thank you OP for starting this thread.

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Good question sir :)

And some good answers !!

Nothing much to add except I don't remember ever dropping a battery .... If I did I just picked it up and used it :)

Charging is safe place is a good idea, I should post a pic of my charger set up ...... not so much on safety. But I did throw out all the papers that were piled around the charger and move the can of ether a few feet away after reading this.
 

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Even WITH appropriate equipment it is almost impossible to check for internal damage to a cell that has been dropped.

Dropped or physically damaged cells may have two problems:

If it is a "protected" ICR cell (xxxFire, cheap stuff with high mAh ratings) then the protection circuitry can become damaged. I would expect such a damaged cell to not charge at all or not hold a charge.

To protect against that, measure the voltage of the cell right after the incident - 0 volts or unstable volts -> bin it.
Then try to charge it. If the cell gets warmer than usual -> bin it.
Then leave it for a day in a safe place. Measure the voltage. If it is below, say 4 Volts -> bin it.

The other problem is the buildup of so called dendrites inside the cell. Dendrites are tiny bits of solid material that can grow over time because of chemical reactions (and other things, but I'll leave that out).

Dendrites that touch other dendrites or electrodes MAY lead to an internal short inside the cell - and if the cell is of the Lithium-Cobalt based type, then may lead to catastrophic failure.

The shock of a drop on a hard surface can lead to dendrites moving inside the cell and touching each other. See above.

We are all using "safe chemistry" cells, either IMR (AW brand) or NMC (Panasonic CGR...CH, BAK...CC, Sony US...V..). These will not "explode" when dropped, but rather "fizzle". But it is rare. I am not aware of an actual incident of a dropped cell exploding or fizzling, but it could theoretically (or even in a lab environment) happen.

Of course, if a cell is actually pierced open by a nail or screwdriver, or run over by a truck or some such, weird stuff can happen. But you wouldn't want to put that inside your REO anyway =)

Basically:
- If a cell gets warm in normal usage or charging -> Throw away
- A drop on a hard surface shortens the lifespan of a cell, because of the dendrites.
- Load dropped cells in a safe place, mark them, watch them.
- Use "safe chemistry"
 

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Off topic but I drive a snack truck utilitymaster step van and go in and out of my truck alot for about an hour or 2 at a time and have to lock my truck and roll up windows.With hotter weather coming is it safe to leave your mods in this heat?

Last couple of years have left them in this element with no problems but thinking much more about safety these days.I have even left them in direct sunlight on my dashboard where I have a little area that holds them perfectly.Seems like somewhere I read direct sunlight is risky.Any feedback would be appreciated, Dale
 

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I've been wondering the same thing...I too used mine last summer (with no issue) but have been thinking of a small sandwich container (one with that blue ice) to put my batteries and juice in while I'm out and about or lock things up in my car for a few hours. Would be curious to know what others do, or have done. Possibly a new thread with this theme might be better than piggy-backing on this one.
 
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