what do you need to begin vaporing?
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Hello and welcome to the forum @david quan. Glad to have you here!
If you are interested in learning more about e-cigarettes (and all the parts and pieces) below are some blog posts by ECF member @Baditude that I highly recommend for someone new to vaping.
Nicotine
A "general guideline" for nicotine concentration in e-liquid to the number of cigarettes smoked per day. If you are subohming (resistance under 1.0Ω) cut these nicotine levels by at least 50%.
06 mg = 10 cigarettes or less
12 mg = 20 cigarettes
18 mg = 30 cigarettes
24 mg = 40 cigarettes
eliquid/juice
PG = Propylene Glycol - the "flavor carrier" of e-liquid. A secondary source of "throat hit", but not as strong as the nicotine concentration. Some people have a sensitivity or even an allergy to PG. It's very thin.
VG = Vegetable Glycerin - the "vapor maker" of e-liquid. Used as a sweeter in many food sources, and also as a skin emollient. It's very thick. Often labeled just "Glycerine"
PG and VG are often used together in different ratios in e-liquid. For example, a 50/50 PG/VG ratio. Many juice vendors offer a range of different ratios as far as PG/VG.
If you are interested in learning more about e-cigarettes (and all the parts and pieces) below are some blog posts by ECF member @Baditude that I highly recommend for someone new to vaping.
- A Good Starter's Setup for a Beginning Vapor
- Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder with Egos and Mods
- Proper Terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments
- Something Safe for Cinnamon and Citrus Flavors
Nicotine
A "general guideline" for nicotine concentration in e-liquid to the number of cigarettes smoked per day. If you are subohming (resistance under 1.0Ω) cut these nicotine levels by at least 50%.
06 mg = 10 cigarettes or less
12 mg = 20 cigarettes
18 mg = 30 cigarettes
24 mg = 40 cigarettes
eliquid/juice
PG = Propylene Glycol - the "flavor carrier" of e-liquid. A secondary source of "throat hit", but not as strong as the nicotine concentration. Some people have a sensitivity or even an allergy to PG. It's very thin.
VG = Vegetable Glycerin - the "vapor maker" of e-liquid. Used as a sweeter in many food sources, and also as a skin emollient. It's very thick. Often labeled just "Glycerine"
PG and VG are often used together in different ratios in e-liquid. For example, a 50/50 PG/VG ratio. Many juice vendors offer a range of different ratios as far as PG/VG.
Desire and 30 dollars would get you started. You can get a lot better rig if you can spend 60-100. Tell us more about who you are, and why you want to vape, and what your budget might be. We'll try to steer you in the right direction.
If he is currently a smoker. If not vaping will likely shorten his life to a tiny extent at least.the will to live longer
Not vaping is safer than vaping. Vaping is far safer than smoking.
Ok, that's a start. If you've never smoked, I'm guessing you don't really want big clouds of vapor. It's likely to choke you. Let me suggest something like an eGo Spinner battery and an Aspire Nautilus tank. Never having smoked, 6 mg nicotine e-juice will give you the nicotine hit you're looking for. 12 mg will make your head spin if you hit it too hard, so it would also work to give you the hit in a very few puffs. If you've got a bit more money, buy an Innokin VV battery instead of the Spinner.
Thanks question of all these following choices witch would be better fit for a newbie that never even smoked regular cigars or tobacco?
VaporFi VOX II MOD Starter Kit
VaporFi Edge Starter Kit
VaporFi Vice Starter Kit
VaporFi Rocket Starter Kit
VaporFi Platinum Pro II Starter Kit
I would prefer something that is manual and not automatic.
Never smoked before nor not smoking at the present moment I would suggest staying with a nicotine concentration of 0% (0mg) nicotine in your juices. For about $60-$80USD Eleaf makes a nice kit of an iStick40watt (battery device /w internal battery and internal charger) that comes with an Eleaf GS Air tank that makes a great starter setup, couple bottles of juice added into that price range if you search around at the right online vendors. Next suggestion would be a Joyetech Ego Mega One (comes with a battery, charging cable, and tank) if you are looking at this coming from hookah or such and looking for a decent exhale. Looking for clouds I'd suggest the Eleaf iStick40watt paired with a Kanger Subtank Mini or Aspire Atlatis Ver 2 tank, little pricier, or back to basics the same iStick40watt paired with an Aspire Nautilus Mini for the basic puffer unit.
Juice viscosity I'd suggest a 50PG/50VG to a 30PG/70VG for the GS Air/Atlantis V2 combos, with the Ego Mega One Tank/Kanger Subtank combos 30PG/70VG to 20PG/80VG maximum thicknesses.
Looking at getting into nicotine, I'd suggest no higher than 0.3%(3mg per milliliter) concentration, but highly suggest none at all as just the act of vaping and the motions are calming enough on the nerves for most, looking to get started due to diet, weight loss program, or diabetes control look at sweeter, fruity flavors along with candy and desert/savory flavors.
Juice viscosity I'd suggest a 50PG/50VG to a 30PG/70VG for the GS Air/Atlantis V2 combos, with the Ego Mega One Tank/Kanger Subtank combos 30PG/70VG to 20PG/80VG maximum thicknesses.
Looking at getting into nicotine, I'd suggest no higher than 0.3%(3mg per milliliter) concentration, but highly suggest none at all as just the act of vaping and the motions are calming enough on the nerves for most, looking to get started due to diet, weight loss program, or diabetes control look at sweeter, fruity flavors along with candy and desert/savory flavors.
Out of those choices I'd go with this if you have the money in your budget, but for the price the combinations I listed above are better bang for the buck
VaporFi VOX II MOD Starter Kit
Then choose the Edge or Volt tanks being clones to what look like the Kanger Subtank and Aspire Atlantis Tanks, the mod looks like a clone of the Innokin MVP Ver3 Pro
I don't recommend you buy anything at all from VaporFi, unless you don't have an option. Basically, they are repackaging other stuff with their label and, I need hardly add, at a substantial markup. That said, the Rocket kit is about where you need to be. It is, in fact, virtually identical to the Spinner/Nautilus combo I suggested. Just more expensive. The Platinum Pro kit is practically identical except it has a smaller battery and the battery is not adjustable. The Vice, Edge and Vox II kits are all for subohm vaping. If you've never smoked, I don't recommend you start there, although you might work your way up in time. That stuff is pretty powerful and is for blowing clouds.
@IMFire3605 has an excellent point: start out with 0 nic and see if it works for you. You can always buy some more juice with more nic later. Just a hint here: 3mg juice is hard to find, but a bottle of 6 mixed with a bottle of 0 in the same flavor will make two bottles of 3...
Thank you for giving me this advise so the Rocket starter kit would include everything I would need including the liquid? Also what about those blu products?
Electronic Cigarettes | Digital & Vapor Cigarettes | blu eCigs®
No, you will need to buy liquid too. Many vape shops in the US have tasting bars where you can try out the liquids they sell. If this is available to you, I would suggest it. Neither do I recommend the Blu products. They taste terrible, for one thing, and they are grossly overpriced for what you get, and the battery life is terrible.
I would recommend a Joytec Evic Mini kit it comes with a Tron tank for $55.00 a Xtar V2 charger $14.00 at Fasttech. Pay the USPS shipping $2.50. It will arrive in about 2 weeks. While you are waiting buy 2 or 3 Samsung 18650 25R batteries and visit our local vape shops and try to find out what flavors you like. If your not a smoker now you may want to start out a 3mg nicotine. If all this works for you and you like vaping go and get back-ups. P.S. Once you get your Evic kit you can get on Joytec's website and they have tutorials for the Evic Mini and the tank. I just bought a Evic Mini to use at work it is great.
so say I get the once off my local store (the juices) does this mean that the VOX !! or VOX Pro won't be compatible with the AVAIL systems? Same with the blu products?
IF he's never even smoked before, why doesn't anyone recommend starting with something like the Eleaf iStick Mini 10w for $17.95 at LiteCigUSA? It doesn't include the cable or eGo adapter, but they're also on the site for less than $2.00. Add a Protank 2 Mini tank (on sale for less than $6 at many sites) and he's got a decent set-up to see if he even likes vaping...for less than $35 with shipping!
Or, for even less than that, just a couple 1100mAh eGo batteries and the Protank 2 Mini or some other tank? Those would be really inexpensive, and he'd be out even less if vaping isn't for him when he tries it.
Or, for even less than that, just a couple 1100mAh eGo batteries and the Protank 2 Mini or some other tank? Those would be really inexpensive, and he'd be out even less if vaping isn't for him when he tries it.
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Could you possibly recommend so good fruit/candy/dessert flavors..preferably in 30/70-20/80 PG/VG range for me. As a diabetic I never even considered using a sweet tasting liquid to curb my sweet tooth cravings. I haven't been Vaping for that long yet but am really enjoying it and am already upgrading the mod I current have to a slightly better one with a higher wattage and sub-ohm coils...haha new to the game but already chasing clouds
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