What if V4L made a mod?

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Ok, so I have been looking up mods, and I was wondering how many people would get a V4L mod? the specs are as follows:

5V
touch sensitive/button
water resistant/proof
LED optional

Any other ideas can be posted here for it, I was just wondering how many people would buy a mod, because there is different batteries that you can put in to make it last 2 or 3 days.

I personally would like a 5V that lasted me 2 days without a charge. I would like it touch sensitive, and some other cool things, like no LED so I can stealth vape without having to worry about a light. I know I can go out and buy one, but I would much rather trust V4L and give them my money.
 

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If V4L makes a mod, I for one hope they consider making it a auto juicing system; ie: Wetbox, REO, Journeyman.

I fully expect the future of PV's to be in the Auto-Juicing realm...NOT cartomizers. The upside is just too great...no fiddling with cartos, burning filler material.

You buy your juice in a standardized bottle, screw it in the PV and VAPE.

Just my opinion.
 

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If V4L makes a mod, I for one hope they consider making it a auto juicing system; ie: Wetbox, REO, Journeyman.

I fully expect the future of PV's to be in the Auto-Juicing realm...NOT cartomizers. The upside is just too great...no fiddling with cartos, burning filler material.

You buy your juice in a standardized bottle, screw it in the PV and VAPE.

Just my opinion.

I'll say it from experience.

An auto-feeding cartomizer juicebox is the epitome of useless.

Cartomizers are refillable as it is....and a juicebox for cartomizers? I own one, and cannot see the point.

My wetbox sits there, in a pile, with a big question mark on it, asking WHY?

I can totally see a juicebox with a 510 or 801 atty connection, as it makes sense...but a cartomizer?
 

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Somewhere in this forum I think Steve said he wasn't interested in making a mod.
As far as I can tell the mods are fads that come and go. I fell for the VP1, a nice mod with a cool ring of lights..but the aaa battery is too short lived. My nicostick on the other hand is a work horse..but not cool looking.:laugh:

I am very happy with my VK batts and carto's. The passthru is the same as a mod in my opinion.
 

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I'll say it from experience.

An auto-feeding cartomizer juicebox is the epitome of useless.

Cartomizers are refillable as it is....and a juicebox for cartomizers? I own one, and cannot see the point.

My wetbox sits there, in a pile, with a big question mark on it, asking WHY?

I can totally see a juicebox with a 510 or 801 atty connection, as it makes sense...but a cartomizer?

I think you misunderstood, I am suggesting that the cartos be eliminated entirely. I quit smoking to eliminate putting all the chemicals in my body. Like it or not Cartos have FILLER, that filler is burning on some level, miniscule as it might be is entering your lungs. It is my humble opinion that a juicing system will how we vape in the future. These PVs are in their infancy, but we'll see...
 
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I think you misunderstood, I am suggesting that the cartos be eliminated entirely. I quit smoking to eliminate putting all the chemicals in my body. Like it or not Cartos have FILLER, that filler is burning on some level, miniscule as it might be is entering your lungs.


There's a new style of Carto with no filler available soon once the bugs are squashed, V4L will surely take them aboard once ready, which should be soon I imagine :)


A V4L Mod would be nice, like something with a removable battery that uses V4L Carto's natively.
 

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Ok, so I have been looking up mods, and I was wondering how many people would get a V4L mod? the specs are as follows:

5V
touch sensitive/button
water resistant/proof
LED optional

Any other ideas can be posted here for it, I was just wondering how many people would buy a mod, because there is different batteries that you can put in to make it last 2 or 3 days.

I personally would like a 5V that lasted me 2 days without a charge. I would like it touch sensitive, and some other cool things, like no LED so I can stealth vape without having to worry about a light. I know I can go out and buy one, but I would much rather trust V4L and give them my money.

Couple things here. First, you get a 5v experience from a 3.7v with the premium (or wow) carts. You're not going to get a 2-3 day vape from a 5v mod unless you are a very light vaper or have a HUGE battery. Touch sensitive button is just going to drain more battery and cause bigger headache to maintain, mechanical is the way to go there for durability, not tact like in the current 808 batts. Water resistant/proof is even a bigger mess I think and I don't really understand the reasoning behind it unless it is to keep the batts from getting juice on them which I think is a more reasonable feature. I'd say no LED, the only point of these to begin with was to give the simulated ciggy feel, now that they've gone to all the crazy colors I feel that they are even more pointless, like having those led antennas on cellphones back in the day. The simpler the mod the more durable it will be. You start adding complicated features and it gets more difficult to maintain the unit, as seen in a number of mods on the market.

Yeah, instead you're fiddling with leaking atomizers, nasty tasting nichrome metallic ick, and overpaying for what is ultimately a disposable item.

If they were to build a mod, it'd probably be called the "VK1" or "VK2" which you can search for. ;)

Well I think the OP was talking about a mod that you would still use cartomizers on. The mod I currently vape on has a replaceable 14500 battery, mechanical switch, and 808 adapter that I only use v4l wow cartos on (they're the best I've ever come across) and it works great! And in the long run it's actually cheaper than the v4l setup.

It cost me the $107 for my full mod kit, mod, batts and all. The cheapest I can get v4l for the essentials (2 manual batts, 1 charger case) is $57. Replacement batteries are $16.45, and from my experience needed to be replaced every 2-3 months, and that's if everything was perfect. I was usually replacing them after about a month. But taking the 3 month estimate for battery life that's another $96 for a years worth of batteries so $153 for the year. Now compared to cigarette's that's a great deal. But, replacement batteries for my mod cost $7 a piece and last much longer than the v4l extended batts day to day and have a 6+ month lifespan. Two 14500s will last me a day where I used to need 4 v4l regular batts or 2 and a charging case. I come home at the end of the day, pop my batteries on the multi charger and the next morning I'm ready to go again. Not to mention the safer chemistry in the IMR batteries I use.

The mod I use is all stainless steel with mechanical switch so, in theory, as long as I keep it clean it should last for years with batteries that I can buy at many online battery shops that won't get closed down if e-cigs ever get banned.

I'll say it from experience.

An auto-feeding cartomizer juicebox is the epitome of useless.

Cartomizers are refillable as it is....and a juicebox for cartomizers? I own one, and cannot see the point.

My wetbox sits there, in a pile, with a big question mark on it, asking WHY?

I can totally see a juicebox with a 510 or 801 atty connection, as it makes sense...but a cartomizer?

I think you are right with the experience so far, but I also agree that a juice fed atomizers are the future. I currently carry around a 6ml bottle to top off my carts a number of times throughout the day. I would much rather have a reservoir that I would simply refill once or twice as the day goes on. Or, looking at the new reservoir cartos that are coming out, carry around 4 or 5 reservoir cartos that I knew had exactly 1ml of juice when I put them on and refilled accurately and easily every time I refilled them (which I think eventually these will offer). I think the idea behind the new reservoir cartos is brilliant but the execution is substandard so far.

I can also see the point behind juice fed cartos (but only as an intermediary until the reservoir cartos get fixed). As a dripper I prefer cartos because I don't have to worry about filling them as many times during the day and it is a lot harder for them to dry out without me noticing. They are also more difficult to overfill. Dripping on a regular atomizer will give you a cigarette's worth of vape, dripping on a cartomizer gives you about 3 cigs worth of vape. I find it much easier to tell when I need to redrip the cartomizer, in my experience dripping on atomizers the only way I really knew to redrip was when I got the bad hit. I think the same would follow for a juice fed cartomizer.

Not interested. It's a step backward in terms of simulating smoking for me.

Step backwards because of the size? The functionality is exactly the same. The size is the only difference. But I see this as a step forward. It's much easier to explain that I'm not smoking if I'm not holding something that looks like a cigarette. I was very much into getting my e-cig as small as possible and looking as close to a cigarette as I could in the beginning. Now that I've given up on that goal I've found the perfect fusion of function and portability.

I think Steve will come out with some Ego/Riva type battery made for V4L or maybe something like the protege,but made better.

Are you talking about the PS protege? If so you should check them out now! I think you would be pleasantly surprised! It'd be hard to make it better now. I always thought the two companies should get together because they both have the same great customer service and both have great products but excel in two completely different areas.



All in all, I understand those who don't want to give mods a try. I love v4l! They are my only supplier for juice and cartos! I wouldn't even think of using anything else, v4l can't be beat. But those who post up negative opinions and "facts" on mods can't be taken seriously unless they've tried mods. I think if v4l did it right and kept it simple they would have a wonderful mod, but I can also see why they would just stick with the current setup. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! There are some advantages to manufacturing a mod but let those already doing keep doing and stick to what you do best! These are just my opinions, take them with a grain of salt (along with the other opinions in this thread). I'm not trying to start a war here, just pointing out some issues I see.
 

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Well I think the OP was talking about a mod that you would still use cartomizers on.

I was replying to this:

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I fully expect the future of PV's to be in the Auto-Juicing realm...NOT cartomizers. The upside is just too great...no fiddling with cartos, burning filler material.
[...]

And

I think you misunderstood, I am suggesting that the cartos be eliminated entirely. [...]


And another note worth making: The KR808* batteries are, in fact, a mechanical switch. When you press them there are two gold-plated metal contacts within the switch that mechanically make/break contact - ergo mechanical switch.
 

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I was replying to this:

And

And another note worth making: The KR808* batteries are, in fact, a mechanical switch. When you press them there are two gold-plated metal contacts within the switch that mechanically make/break contact - ergo mechanical switch.

Ah, my apologies, I was reading it wrong.

Good news on the mech switch, I think the key to the mod though is user serviceable mech switch...
 

VapnChief

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Yep, that's what I was sayin. Don't get me wrong, I know cartos are popular and will continue to be in the near future, but so far a carto has not been created that doesn't introduce something that can burn...did we not all quit smoking because of the hazards of combustion and breathing the chemicals it inherently produces?

Even the E2 cartos mentioned above were rejected by V4L and all the posts I read there are concerns about burning glue and a chemical taste, whether true or not.

It's just my opinion that whatever company/inventor perfects the auto juicing PV will revolutionize the "e-cig" industry....and what better company that V4L to invest in it.
 

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did we not all quit smoking because of the hazards of combustion and breathing the chemicals it inherently produces?

I quit breathing air for the same reason. But then I had to give up pure oxygen, 'cause it'll kill ya faster. Then there was the constant radiation bombardment from space. So I sealed myself in a lead-lined room. I'm rather blue, suffering from lead poisoning, and _still_ haven't come up with a fix for those pesky neutrinos.

There is literally nothing in our biosphere that isn't hazardous to human life > in a high enough dosage <

The emphasis needs to be maintained though...
 
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