What is the best e cigarette model

[AshHole]

Now you know where to get a chuck, I ask you to seriously consider the Xhaler too... "I am an Nhaler cheerlader - Welcome to NHaler!

The Chucks are custom built and take a while, 2+ weeks.
The Xhaler is an in-stock item.

But yes, before real recommendations can be made, we should hear what your problems are on your 901 - we might be referring you to more problems unless we know what you are dealing with.

All ecigs have advantages and disadvantages, so knowing what you dont like may be a help for us to give you more information.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

I see this question here a lot. It is kind of like asking "Where is the best place to live?" "What carreer should I choose?" or "Who is the best person to marry?"

The proper question would be "What is the best for me?" Depending on what your likes and dislikes are, and what your needs are, your answer will be different. And it may change with time and circumstance. Granted, my example questions are more important in the grand scheme of things, but your e-cig choice is a life changing decision.

If there were one "best" PV, all of us here on ECF would be using the same model. If you ask "What is the most popular PV?" then it seems to be the Joye510 or a mod like the Chuck. I am sure they are good, but many of us don't use either and are very happy with our choice.

I would say go through the model discussions here and see what the pros and cons are for each one. Figure out what is most important to you. Ask specific questions. ECF members, for the most part, tend to be very opinionated, but we are also very honest and helpful.

The best you can really do, even with all the information here, is make an educated guess. Nobody (nor their wallets) want to hear this, but you really do have to try different ones out and see for yourself. You have to hold it to see if it feels right in your hand, use it to see if it vapes the way you want, and use it for a while to see if it performs for the long haul.

Then you move on to "Who do I buy from?" and "What juice do I use?"........LOL. It is a journey, but it's fun and well worth it.

Best of luck,
~A

angelique, that is very well put! [All of it; and I will be linking to your post. I especially like the analogies in your second sentence.]

To all new vapers reading this: Listen to angelique! Here is vaping wisdom. To help you apply it - and to learn more about 510s, 901s, Chucks, Silver Bullets, etc. - check out the WWV Illustrated Guide in my signature, especially Parts 4 and 5.

 

[quasimod]

[...] I checked out the mods there on that site. [...]

That's a good start.

[...] I wanna buy one but what exactly do I do with it. [...]

It's a battery housing, and does the same thing as the battery on your 901b, only better. Much better. You screw an atomizer onto it. You have a "3 piece" that consists of a battery, atomizer and cartridge. The metal heating element in the middle is the atomizer.

Dang, I hate to be so short, but I have to go somewhere in a few minutes. My wife is getting impatient, and giving me "the stink-eye".

You can save time, money, and aggravation by spending some time reading and asking questions, here. Check this stuff out:

Don's brief (haha) intro to the ecig world:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...strated-guide-e-cigs-parts-1-through-6-a.html

Seriously, there's a lot of good info there, if you read all 6 parts (bring a sandwich, it's going to take a while). In fact, read all of the "sticky" posts in the New Members section.

Also, there may be someone local, that is willing to give you a phone call, or meet somewhere for a little face-to-face help and advice:

Australian E-Smokers - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

You have to click the "join group" link (here's a link) before you can post in that group. Who knows? Maybe some kind soul will meet you in a bar and let you try out their Chuck (or some other mod). They'll be familiar with Australian laws and restrictions, as well (I believe ecigs are banned in New Zealand, and international shipping is tricky, for example).

In my opinion, just about anything will perform better than that tiny little 901-B you're using. It's main strength is that it is so small. That's the trade-off with batteries. Smaller = more convenient, larger = better performance. You will still have to buy batteries, perhaps like this monster, but they will be cheaper, more powerful, longer-lasting, etc.

Again, sorry to be so short with you, but I really have to go. You'll get plenty of help and advice here if you ask, just remember that a lot of it will be individual opinion:

"Green is the BEST color! It's totally AWESOME! You should paint everything in your house green! Go buy lots of green stuff!"



Good luck!

 

[AshHole]

Don is correct overall and has the ability to remain "neutral" instead of give reccomendations directly.

I know most us of grew up with mom or day saying "Buy a Buick (or Toyota..whatever), its the best.." and thats what we buy. We also hope that someone will tell us what to spend money on so we seek the same advice like mom or dad gave.

As Don said, this is purely subjective. If my wife didnt have me around to loadup and maintain her 510 she would have thrown it in a toilet long ago. (See, I am good for something). My buddy loves his "Smoking Everywhere Gold", but I cant even stand to look at it, and most around here would rather hit their fingers with a hammer than own one of those. But hey, he is analog free!

Already you have seen many different reccomendations - but you have to keep in mind those recommendations come from different people with different needs, likes and dislikes.

If it is guidance you really seek and feel you are still fobbing around blindly, more information about your habits, like and dislikes will help people fit/justify their recommendations for your needs.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

...Don's brief (haha) intro to the ecig world...

If you want "brief," stick with analogs.

Seriously, for a brief answer to a specific question, Ask the Experts. Otherwise, there is a lot to learn about this life-changing alternative to cancer sticks.* And I do provide a "Quick and Dirty Approach" toward the beginning of Part 4 of that opus. [I do not guarantee that you will be satisfied with the result. And, if I were to write that today, I would offer the Kr8 as another good alternative.]

* Just today, in this post, angelique provided the most effectively stated rationale I've seen for investing some time and effort to learn about vaping.

 

[bigozone]

I see this question here a lot. It is kind of like asking "Where is the best place to live?" "What carreer should I choose?" or "Who is the best person to marry?"

The proper question would be "What is the best for me?" Depending on what your likes and dislikes are, and what your needs are, your answer will be different. And it may change with time and circumstance. Granted, my example questions are more important in the grand scheme of things, but your e-cig choice is a life changing decision.

If there were one "best" PV, all of us here on ECF would be using the same model. If you ask "What is the most popular PV?" then it seems to be the Joye510 or a mod like the Chuck. I am sure they are good, but many of us don't use either and are very happy with our choice.

I would say go through the model discussions here and see what the pros and cons are for each one. Figure out what is most important to you. Ask specific questions. ECF members, for the most part, tend to be very opinionated, but we are also very honest and helpful.

The best you can really do, even with all the information here, is make an educated guess. Nobody (nor their wallets) want to hear this, but you really do have to try different ones out and see for yourself. You have to hold it to see if it feels right in your hand, use it to see if it vapes the way you want, and use it for a while to see if it performs for the long haul.

Then you move on to "Who do I buy from?" and "What juice do I use?"........LOL. It is a journey, but it's fun and well worth it.

Best of luck,
~A

best answer ever.....
being a man, i tend to use the car model metaphor,, ford or gm vs yugo,, 4 cylinder vs a big V8....

take them for a test drive and see what you like best or what is in your price range.

the same goes for hardware and liquid

 

[freeman dyson]

Is a Chuck or similar mod really necessary for for moderate smokers? I maybe smoke half a pack a day at most. I already have a usb passthrough and pcc. It is a 510 btw. So is it something I should still look into? Plus I like the size of the 510 better than the chuck.

 

[Kent C]

Is a Chuck or similar mod really necessary for for moderate smokers? I maybe smoke half a pack a day at most. I already have a usb passthrough and pcc. It is a 510 btw. So is it something I should still look into? Plus I like the size of the 510 better than the chuck.

Hey freeman,

For a half a pack a day, you should be set. The least costly 'upgrade' that you might possibly benefit from would be the mega battery for the 510. A couple of those would get you through a whole day of vaping at a half a pack a day rate. Plus, they seem to have a bit more of the high peak voltage at the start vs. a regular battery.

 

[freeman dyson]

Hey freeman,

For a half a pack a day, you should be set. The least costly 'upgrade' that you might possibly benefit from would be the mega battery for the 510. A couple of those would get you through a whole day of vaping at a half a pack a day rate. Plus, they seem to have a bit more of the high peak voltage at the start vs. a regular battery.

thanks. I think im gonna buy one mega battery too. but the pcc and and usb passthrough are good complements to it? or are all three overkill for my needs? (I know the mega battery doesnt fit in the pcc btw)

 

[olderthandirt]

Prof Beard posted this earlier today.

Anyone considering a mod should take a look:

E-cig News: A run-down of all the big battery model e-cigarettes on the market

 

[MickiO]

Hi I have a dse 901 b. Are there any better models out there that have less problems? Is the dse the best? Who makes the best e cig?

It depends on what you're looking for, If long battery life, big vapor and good flavor is important to you, then go with the dse 801.



If vapor production is all that matters to you, and battery life is not that important, then go with a 510, course you'll sacrifice flavor for vapor.


Others have said, 901 most flavor, 801 best vapor, 510 best throat hit


However, I found 801 produces the most vapor, the best flavor and throat hit. All of these are multiplied ten-fold using 801 with a Chuck or a VP2.


Just my personal opinion, the dse 801 is by far, the best you can get for the money. It is most versatile in that there are other atomizers (atleast 4 types that I know of) that are compatible with the 801 batteries, which last all day-I might add.


If you want more vapor, just use VG and get HUGE plumes, if you want even more, with heavier throat hits, you can get a mod and use your atty with it, such as the Chuck, Little chuck or VP2, and it can be the most exhilarating of all vaping devices and will last you days in between battery chargers, and flavors are the strongest,

If you don't want to invest in a mod, you can also have more choices with the des801, by simply using one of the other compatible atty's (There the BE-112, the JOY 302, the M-201 (4 hole), RN-4072)


There's also high-bridge (with the original "SLB", stamped on the inside), or low-bridge 801 atomizers.


Not saying one has to own all these, it's just nice to have more options.


IMHO, coming from someone who has worked at 31 yrs of smoking cigs destroying taste buds, so for me being able to taste good and choose from different flavors is important to me.


I know everyone has their own personal tastes & opinions, and other may disagree but I've tried the others, and the dse801 simply to me is meant for quality.


I started vaping mid-July, and that batteries and atty are still going, and to me, compared to others e-cigs I've read about on the forum, that is simply outstanding!!!

 

[Kent C]

best answer ever.....
being a man, i tend to use the car model metaphor,, ford or gm vs yugo,, 4 cylinder vs a big V8....

take them for a test drive and see what you like best or what is in your price range.

the same goes for hardware and liquid

Angelique's answer gives some reality to what and why people end up with the models that they do. When I link the most popular models for someone to go out and by the most popular model because of that, would be a mistake in judgment. Fortunately, for them, in this case they would have a better than 50% chance of ending up with something they might like.

And there's a reason for that - while the 'numbers' by themselves mean nothing really, there are objective and reality based reasons why the numbers are the way they are, and the car analogy is a good one for the same reason. You'd have to go back a few years for this to truly be the case but there were actual reality based reasons why the Toyota Camry was Consumer Reports top scoring car for repairs and reliability. Now there were a lot of people that would never own one, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a car that wouldn't get you from here to there with little or no problems. And it is with that intent when I post the polls on 'what model do you use'. In many cases that vote was a result of people having many different models and settling on one.

 

[Kent C]

thanks. I think im gonna buy one mega battery too. but the pcc and and usb passthrough are good complements to it? or are all three overkill for my needs? (I know the mega battery doesnt fit in the pcc btw)

Freeman,

I have all three and with mods I've put the PTs and PCC away but still have some megas going. I have also put the regular 510 batts away. I plan on selling many of those. But for you and yours... the passthrough would be very useful when stationary and I would think that two fully charged megas would easily last you all day unless you vape much more than you smoke - in that case, the PCC would be the best solution short of a mod.

 

[freeman dyson]

Freeman,

I have all three and with mods I've put the PTs and PCC away but still have some megas going. I have also put the regular 510 batts away. I plan on selling many of those. But for you and yours... the passthrough would be very useful when stationary and I would think that two fully charged megas would easily last you all day unless you vape much more than you smoke - in that case, the PCC would be the best solution short of a mod.

Let me get this straight. The PCC can charge the mega but it can't fit it in all the way. Meaning it can't close or something. But it can charge it? Is the PCC good for charging megas or does the size mismatch make it less suitable for charging megas?

Meh, I think I'll probably get both the pcc and passthrough. They arent that expensive. And a few mega batteries too. How long do batteries last? And do I need a spare battery for the pcc? I am getting a spare for the usb pt.

 

[Kent C]

Let me get this straight. The PCC can charge the mega but it can't fit it in all the way. Meaning it can't close or something. But it can charge it? Is the PCC good for charging megas or does the size mismatch make it less suitable for charging megas?

Meh, I think I'll probably get both the pcc and passthrough. They arent that expensive. And a few mega batteries too. How long do batteries last? And do I need a spare battery for the pcc? I am getting a spare for the usb pt.

I didn't mention charging the megas with the PCC. But there is a 'mod' where you put a rubberband around the tip of the mega to push it into connection within the PCC. So IF you happen to be out and a mega needs a recharge you CAN recharge it in that manner. But yeah, it makes the PCC unusable for carrying, basically. So 'less suitable' but workable.

Again, batteries last 1-2 hours ymmv. Megas last @2x that so 2-4 hours. If you have two batteries then with a PCC you're good to go. One vaping, one charging. And the PCC is good for about 5 or 6 charges. Each charge takes about an hour and each charge takes a bit longer than the last so on the 5th charge you're approaching an 1:45 in my experience.

For the usb PT you won't need an extra battery in my experience but they're cheap enough. What you might consider is getting at least two atomizers for each ecig or PT you have.

 

[WillyB]

What is a chuck? Where can I get one?

You don't need a Chuck, which is the most basic battery mod out there. Nothing but a big battery and one switch. Nor do you need to change models yet (I also love recommendations from folks who've used a device for one day). If you haven't mastered the basic operation of a 901, it's not going to be any different if you switch to a 510 or slap your atomizer and cart on a big battery.

I've read some of your posts, you seem to have questions and problems that won't be helped by a big battery. You seem to still be unclear on general operation and how the parts all work together. Your last question in the Experts forum sounded like your 901 was turning on by itself, the answer you got seemed to miss that point. That could be related to the battery type, auto or manual.

 

[freeman dyson]

I didn't mention charging the megas with the PCC. But there is a 'mod' where you put a rubberband around the tip of the mega to push it into connection within the PCC. So IF you happen to be out and a mega needs a recharge you CAN recharge it in that manner. But yeah, it makes the PCC unusable for carrying, basically. So 'less suitable' but workable.

Again, batteries last 1-2 hours ymmv. Megas last @2x that so 2-4 hours. If you have two batteries then with a PCC you're good to go. One vaping, one charging. And the PCC is good for about 5 or 6 charges. Each charge takes about an hour and each charge takes a bit longer than the last so on the 5th charge you're approaching an 1:45 in my experience.

For the usb PT you won't need an extra battery in my experience but they're cheap enough. What you might consider is getting at least two atomizers for each ecig or PT you have.

Thanks again. I didnt mean how long a charge lasts but how long batteries last before you have to throw them out. So I know how many spares I should buy.

 

[Kent C]

Thanks again. I didnt mean how long a charge lasts but how long batteries last before you have to throw them out. So I know how many spares I should buy.

Ah. I don't know. I haven't had any totally die on me yet. Some have reported (and I think this is standard tech for batteries in general) that the length of time for each charge reduces over time to where they simply don't hold a charge, but again, I've had some for 6 months that are still going strong without a noticeable loss of charge.

One of the things you can do to increase total battery life is to recharge frequently, even before the charge runs out. If you are vaping and the one on the charger is green, swap them out. This, from batteryuniversity:

How to charge - when to charge table
Do and don't battery table

"Do charge the battery often. The battery lasts longer with partial rather than full discharges."

 

[angelique510]

angelique, that is very well put! [All of it; and I will be linking to your post. I especially like the analogies in your second sentence.]

To all new vapers reading this: Listen to angelique! Here is vaping wisdom. To help you apply it - and to learn more about 510s, 901s, Chucks, Silver Bullets, etc. - check out the WWV Illustrated Guide in my signature, especially Parts 4 and 5.

best answer ever.....
being a man, i tend to use the car model metaphor,, ford or gm vs yugo,, 4 cylinder vs a big V8....

take them for a test drive and see what you like best or what is in your price range.

the same goes for hardware and liquid

Wow! That is high praise. Especially coming from such well respected members of this forum. Thank you, gentlemen. I am gabberflasted.

~A

 

[quasimod]

Also, in case nobody else mentioned it, here's the 901/b sub-forum:

DSE 901/b *Mini* - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat