What is the best method to clean the bottle and reuse it safely ?

[VapeHacker]

Ok as the question says on below cases :

Case 1 Nicotine

You have a bottle of Pure Nicotine on a 100ml bottle, you use 70ml and left of with 30ml, so you transfer to a smaller bottle for storage and you are kept with the 100ml bottle, how do you clean it in order to reuse it ?

Possible answer : Clean it thoroughly with water and then place it in the sun on a clean napkin until it dries out totally, then close and its ready for usage

Case 2 Flavors

Same as above however this time its pure flavor,

Same possible answer

Case 3 PG

Same as above

Case 4 VG

Same as above

Case 5 Ready mixed steeped juice

Same as above

PS : Do you like have to sterilize them ?

I do appreciate your insights in advance

 

[Eskie]

Glass? Wash and rinse really well then allow to dry. No sterilization necessary. Plastic? Use it for whatever was in it before, so if you have a large bottle of juice #1 you keep a small unicorn bottle for daily use, refill with the same. If it's looking cruddy and won't rinse easily, toss it. Personally I would not "repurpose" a plastic bottle for a different liquid, but that's me.

 

[Jugband]

When I store nicotine in the freezer for long term storage, I transfer it from the plastic liter it comes in into 30 ml glass bottles. I worry about bacteria in the bottles so I boil them before storing nic. I'm probably being paranoid but I don't want to find I have contaminated nic in five years.

I personally wouldn't reuse plastic bottles either.

 

[Dougiestyle]

Plastic is a no reuse.
Glass- soapy water with hot rinse and air dry

 

[skoony]

I'm probably being paranoid but I don't want to find I have contaminated nic in five years.

Sterilization is ok just from a general principles point of view.
Nicotine,PG and,VG have excellent antibacterial qualities.
No real worries if you suspect you may have missed a bottle in
the process.
Regards
Mike

 

[Capt.shay]

When I store nicotine in the freezer for long term storage, I transfer it from the plastic liter it comes in into 30 ml glass bottles. I worry about bacteria in the bottles so I boil them before storing nic. I'm probably being paranoid but I don't want to find I have contaminated nic in five years.

I personally wouldn't reuse plastic bottles either.

Nicotines' primary industrial use is as a pesticide. Pretty much nothing can live in it. I don't think Deinococcus radiodurans could live in it.

 

[r77r7r]

That's right, we vape anti - bacterials. After vaping this long now, my body fluids run pure. I sell my Teardrops to underdeveloped countries to purify their water supply.

 

[Jugband]

Nicotines' primary industrial use is as a pesticide. Pretty much nothing can live in it. I don't think Deinococcus radiodurans could live in it.

I'm glad I finally said something. I hated boiling all those bottles

I have two liters waiting to be stored, I'm skipping the boil.

 

[retired1]

Moved to DIY E-Liquid.

Nicotines' primary industrial use is as a pesticide. Pretty much nothing can live in it. I don't think Deinococcus radiodurans could live in it.

Was.. It's no longer permitted or sold as a pesticide.

 

[Eskie]

Besides, pesticides kill bugs, not bacteria. BTW, boiling does not really sterilize. Steam under pressure for higher temperature for a period of time is required for true sterilization. Just boiling the bottles will "sanitize" them.

Even if they were sterile, once you handle them in any manner with non-sterile gloves or funnels to fill with, there goes your sterility. Keeping stuff clean and cold for long term storage should really be sufficient to prevent bacterial spoilage.

 

[sofarsogood]

Ok as the question says on below cases :

Case 1 Nicotine

You have a bottle of Pure Nicotine on a 100ml bottle, you use 70ml and left of with 30ml, so you transfer to a smaller bottle for storage and you are kept with the 100ml bottle, how do you clean it in order to reuse it ?

Possible answer : Clean it thoroughly with water and then place it in the sun on a clean napkin until it dries out totally, then close and its ready for usage

Case 2 Flavors

Same as above however this time its pure flavor,

Same possible answer

Case 3 PG

Same as above

Case 4 VG

Same as above

Case 5 Ready mixed steeped juice

Same as above

PS : Do you like have to sterilize them ?

I do appreciate your insights in advance

Food spoils by micro organisms growing in the food material and create noxius byproducts in the process. My understanding is pg, vg, and nic are such a hostile environment that micro organisms can't live there. Eliquid ingredients can oxidize and may be if that goes far enough the taste will be spoiled but I've never heard of e liquid spoiling the way food does. I rinse things in warm water, sometimes with soap, sometimes not. The point of sterilization is to kill everything but if the microbes can't feed on e liquid how are they doing to be a threat? May be somebody knows better than me.

 

[Capt.shay]

Besides, pesticides kill bugs, not bacteria.

Yea sure Eskie, I tell you what, throw some nic. in a petri dish and tell me what you manage to get to grow in it.

 

[Eskie]

Yea sure Eskie, I tell you what, throw some nic. in a petri dish and tell me what you manage to get to grow in it.

Yeah, sure Capt.
"Different bacterial species were incubated for 2-4 days in an anaerobic chamber and the growth in the presence of various test reagents was evaluated. ANE, arecoline, nicotine and combinations of nicotine and arecoline did not inhibit the growth of any of the tested bacteria."
from: The effects of areca nut extract and nicotine on selected periodontal pathogens: in vitro study authors: YU-TANG HUNG1 LEIN-TUAN HOU1 MAN-YING WONG in Chin Dent J 2005‧Vol 24‧No 2
So sorry, no go on growth inhibition against a bunch of different bacteria on petri dishes.

"Two natural products that presented themselves as ideal core structures for this investigation were quinine and nicotine (Figure 1b). Each presents a pyridine nitrogen, as well as a separate tertiary amine with only modest steric hindrance. Each compound is naturally abundant, therefore, making it inexpensive, and presents no significant reported antibacterial property as the unmodified natural product"
from: Natural product-derived quaternary ammonium compounds with potent antimicrobial activity,authors: Maureen D Joyce1, Megan C Jennings2, Celina N Santiago1, Madison H Fletcher2, William M Wuest2 and Kevin PC Minbiole1 in The Journal of Antibiotics (2016) 69, 344–347; doi:10.1038/ja.2015.107; published online 18 November 2015

So if you have some studies documenting any antimicrobial effect of nicotine, please share them as I'm stumped in finding any such evidence.

 

[VapeHacker]

Glass? Wash and rinse really well then allow to dry. No sterilization necessary. Plastic? Use it for whatever was in it before, so if you have a large bottle of juice #1 you keep a small unicorn bottle for daily use, refill with the same. If it's looking cruddy and won't rinse easily, toss it. Personally I would not "repurpose" a plastic bottle for a different liquid, but that's me.

Thanks for the answer ! I have to say that i did tossed a few plastic bottles as it seemed impossible to take out that smell of the previous substance sometimes and it makes me feel that the next ejuice i put might react on the previous someone and not give 100% the taste that you are expecting.

Also a sub question, when you say rince and wash, do i wash it with just water ? or with Dish liquid as i do the dishs ?

Finally, is there some kind of chemical substance that kills off that intense smell ? or lets say if i leave it open for days i guess the smell is gonna completely clean out ?

 

[VapeHacker]

When I store nicotine in the freezer for long term storage, I transfer it from the plastic liter it comes in into 30 ml glass bottles. I worry about bacteria in the bottles so I boil them before storing nic. I'm probably being paranoid but I don't want to find I have contaminated nic in five years.

I personally wouldn't reuse plastic bottles either.

mmmm, boil them ok thats a good point, so basically how long do you boil it for ? i like the boiling idea

 

[VapeHacker]

Plastic is a no reuse.
Glass- soapy water with hot rinse and air dry

I see, so i best stock more glass bottles, i think i feel more comfy with dark colored glass bottles, anyone has any links on where i can get good dark colored multiple size glass bottles for storage ? and when they send them is it safe ? did you had a broken etc. ? u know i want ones that you tested them and ordered ... thanking you in advance !

 

[VapeHacker]

Nicotine,PG and,VG have excellent antibacterial qualities.
Mike

Interesting !

 

[dobroeutro]

I reuse everything, plastic/glass... I rinse the bottles thoroughly, then soak in hot water and dish soap for an hour or so. Then rinse thoroughly & let them air dry. No issues for me. I'm sure there are exceptions...

 

[Jugband]

I see, so i best stock more glass bottles, i think i feel more comfy with dark colored glass bottles, anyone has any links on where i can get good dark colored multiple size glass bottles for storage ? and when they send them is it safe ? did you had a broken etc. ? u know i want ones that you tested them and ordered ... thanking you in advance !

I found the best prices on bottles, several sizes on eBay. They have always been well packaged. Once I did receive an order, although they were well packaged in snug bubble wrap several were broken. USPS can break anything. I just contacted the seller, with a photo of the broken bottles, they quickly replaced the loss at no charge. I'm sure any seller would do the same. Again, I've placed several bottle orders, only one incident.

 

[Jugband]

mmmm, boil them ok thats a good point, so basically how long do you boil it for ? i like the boiling idea

If you still choose to boil them, I just placed as many would fit in a pot, covered in room temperature tap water, medium heat on the stovetop until they reached a rolling boil. I then let them boil about five minutes or so.

But honestly I completely agree with what I read here. I never felt boiling was necessary. I have a friend I make liquid for. She's absolutely paranoid about bacteria, she asked me to do it. I've since showed her this thread and asked yet again...why do I listen to you!