The idea is to remove humidity, not introduce it. Humidors are designed to create and hold humidity in, to keep cigars and other tobaccos from drying out. We want something more along the lines of a desiccator.
Kurt
What is the Best Way to Store E-Liquids?
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The idea is to remove humidity, not introduce it. Humidors are designed to create and hold humidity in, to keep cigars and other tobaccos from drying out. We want something more along the lines of a desiccator.
Kurt
Kurt,
I know we're beating the tar out of this horse, but i was wondering if you had any thoughts about the idea of vacuum sealing before putting in the fridge for longer term storage. This seems like it would prevent moisture, light and large heat flucations. Then per your advice to only remove them when needed and not to open the lids until the solution is at room temp?
I know we're beating the tar out of this horse, but i was wondering if you had any thoughts about the idea of vacuum sealing before putting in the fridge for longer term storage. This seems like it would prevent moisture, light and large heat flucations. Then per your advice to only remove them when needed and not to open the lids until the solution is at room temp?
Big Kurt, Any Thoughts ...
HiNic - UnFlavored, Long Term Storage ...
Plastic Or Glass Bottles ???
HiNic - UnFlavored, Long Term Storage ...
Plastic Or Glass Bottles ???
Yes, ideally this should be ok for unopened unflavored bottles, I think. I would put some drying agent in with it too, just to be safe. But I'm still not sure if fridge-cold is necessary or wise, given the potential of absorbing water when opened.
I myself have a "cold room", which is largely unheated in the winter. This was a common thing in houses many decades ago, for vegetable storage, and I think I'm going to store them there in a vac container.
This week is insanely busy for me with my research, but next week I plan on getting more detailed and professional advice on this storage issue. I just don't have the time now to investigate further and make more concrete statements.
It seems cool, sealed, dry and dark are the key environmental parameters here. At least for unflavored juice being stored for the long term.
vape like an ape in a cape!
Kurt
Good question! Pure nicotine can have a corrosive effect on SOME plastics, but I am not sure about juices. Amber glass would seem to be the ideal container for very long storage, but you must make sure it is very clean, dry and sterile.
I do have some plastic jars of unflavored mixing liquid, but I am planning on transferring the liquid to glass for long term storage.
Kurt
Kurt, I have a question. I have been purchasing 30ml bottles of unflavored nic-liquid, and I was wondering....if I purchased larger amber glass "screw-top" bottles or jars for long term storage, is it safe to open the smaller 30ml bottles and mix them together in the larger jars/bottles(I was wondering about possible air contamination before sealing)?
In other words, am I introducing contaminents into the liquid before I seal it in the larger bottles?
In other words, am I introducing contaminents into the liquid before I seal it in the larger bottles?
Deeanne,
Hmmm, IMHO if the 30 mL bottles were shipped to you as such, and they are still unopened, I would tend to leave them as such. That way reserves can be opened to possible contamination only one bottle at a time. Mixing them, as long as everything is clean is in principle fine, but the problems come from actually using the liquids. Contamination of one 30 mL bottle out of several is better than contamination of one big jar of liquid.
But I do want to get more info from more knowledgeable people before I commit to my own long term storage strategies. I am expecting to meet up with someone next week who is much more involved with this stuff, to discuss this very topic, as well as other technical details. I won't say who it is without their permission, but he is one of our suppliers, specifically the person involved in the laboratory details.
In the meantime, if you have unopened unflavored liquid, and can leave it as such for the time being, I would do so. I do intend to get much more technical detail next week.
So stay tuned...
Kurt
PS: One really good thing coming out of this is everyone is being forced to learn some chemistry!
Given all I am reading, and the questions I am getting, I've seen less chemical attention payed to materials in some professional labs I've been in!
Data point: I topped off bottles, placed bottles in a cooler, placed cooler in freezer. After about 2 months my e-liq is like new. I now buy only 48mg unflavored to minimize contamination risks.
My guess is that light and moisture are more of a concern than temperature, and moisture wouldn't be a concern if the cap was never removed. I would suspect that a shoebox in a climate controlled house is a decent place to store this stuff.
Most decomposition processes and reactions are slowed as temp drops.
Oxygen is also a concern via oxidation.
I store unflavored because I am not sure if flavorings will react with the juice.
Oxygen is also a concern via oxidation.
I store unflavored because I am not sure if flavorings will react with the juice.
I bought 4 30ml bottles from Heaven-gifts.com. Looking at the bottles after I got them the label says to store the bottles in the fridge for prolonged life.
Dark, cool, and dry would be the best advice. I've been vaping for a while now. I just recently joined here for some tips and tricks for mixing juice, but storage is very important.
I have a mini fridge/warmer at work that I got at Thinkgeek for $100. I also have a full lab at work. I plan on just mixing up flavors as I need them, but by keeping everything at the office, there's really no expectation that any children or pets will come near it. Hmmm...
I store mine in a wine cooler set at 55 degrees with a large pack of the silica moisture absorbing stuff in it. I read that Sun had her flavored juice go bad in her refridgerator and I'm not taking any chances. I store unflavored in the wine cooler and it stays dark and cool in there. I got a pack of silica at cabella's in the gun storage dept. it was for a large gun closet for like 12.00. It is good for up to 13 cubic feet and my cooler is only 1 cubic foot. That way I can just grab a 30ml bottle at a time to use to mix with flavors while the other bottles are in storage. Also I read from the chemist to wait for the bottle to come to room temp before you open it.
fridge. either in the crisper drawer or in a cardboard box on the shelf just above it.
I keep mine right by my computer. Hell they dont last that long, and the fridge is too far away LOL.
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