What is the current state of the Ecig Bans?

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mibiker24

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I am also interested in the legal situation around banning e-cigs, but more importantly, I would like to know how to deal with an employer that isn't very open-minded to the idea. So far I haven't drawn much attention to myself at work except in the designated smoking areas. However that is going to change in a month when my state goes to the no public smoking. I fear I will draw more attention than I wish, regardless of where I am. I'm sure it won't be long after that when my employer or other local businesses put up more of a obstacle around vaping in public. I don't mind trying to help someone see the light, but some just aren't willing to listen.
 

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I am also interested in the legal situation around banning e-cigs, but more importantly, I would like to know how to deal with an employer that isn't very open-minded to the idea. So far I haven't drawn much attention to myself at work except in the designated smoking areas. However that is going to change in a month when my state goes to the no public smoking. I fear I will draw more attention than I wish, regardless of where I am. I'm sure it won't be long after that when my employer or other local businesses put up more of a obstacle around vaping in public. I don't mind trying to help someone see the light, but some just aren't willing to listen.
Just vape in the toilet in an enclosed stall - they won't know and you won't be trying to rub it into anyone's face or cause resentment.
Always take the easiest road imo :)
 

jeanblackwood

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My guess is they will regulate like the patch and nicotine gum . I don't think the courts are going to let them Tax like they do with cigarettes but if they do you can always order direct from China and they can't tax that so I think regulation is the way they are going to go that's why they want to ban because they can't tax.
 

the_antisheep

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My political rant from a tobacco blog referencing an eCig ban when I first started eCigs...

Let's face it, the body was not meant for habitual smoke inhalation, and while the reports may be exaggerated, there is no better personal proof of cancer causation than witnessing it first hand. I do not believe it to be coincidence that ALL the people I have known over the years that have died from lung cancer started off as smokers, and smoked for several decades. In order to make the leap that the two are somehow unrelated, you would have to go as far as to state that it was a government conspiracy in which they "implanted" cancer into these people because they smoked (then I'd state that you needed your head checked). I digress, as I notice that the majority of the respondents to your blogs are absurdly calling out tobacco use as "safe as homemade apple pie." This is willful denial to enable an addiction, but insulting to everyone's intelligence.

At any rate, I made the leap yesterday to these new cigarettes, and as one who absolutely LOVES his smokes (addicted is putting it mildly), I can state that these e-cigs are 98% effective as a nicotine replacement device. I have tried to use other things in the past, but have failed miserably (I am a menthol user, but not African American [from "menthol blog"].) I find that I needed a real cig in the morning, but was able to control the urge throughout the night. I strongly believe that these e-cigs will be the death of my habitual smoke inhalation, and for that, I couldn't be more grateful. What deeply concerns me is the fact that the FDA is fighting it, and many states are already looking for a ban?

This proves to me a few things:

1. Our government is NOT concerned with the well being of it's citizens.
2. Our government is funded and backed by:
a. The tobacco industry.
b. The medical industry.
3. Cancer associations and anti-smoking lobbyists are fronts, and likewise are in the pocket of both the tobacco industry and the medical industry.

I am convinced at this point that everything we see is simply a puppet show, meant to perpetuate both the causation as well as the medical end of the result. This is all about money. For all the smokers out there that think they are "out to get you?" Think again. The tobacco industry makes money off you, the anti-smoking lobbyists gain notoriety, fame, and publicity because of you, and the medical industry makes a fortune off the outcome.

They throw a few "cures" for your condition that are proven to fail, or even make the situation worse, and all in the name of pacification. As long as you are lead to believe that they are "working for your health," you continue along your way, enabling them to pull more and more from your wallets. Whether it be cessation devices or tobacco, the government wins big.

So you rebel against their lobbyists and their laws? They still win. They still get to tax the ever loving crap out of you, and they still get every last penny you leave behind when you die... You donate it to the medical industry, which trickles down to the big brother. B e a u t i f u l.

Isn't it funny how every time the government is "helping the earth," or "helping it's people," it seems to be "helping itself" to more and more cash, of which 70% of this comes from the poverty stricken (proven to be the largest consumers of alcohol, tobacco, and drive "eco-unfriendly" vehicles, all of which should be "taxed out of existence").

It's a joke, and you are just the puppet being played. Welcome to REAL politics, the part we pretend doesn't exist.

They will find a way to either snuff it out, or tax the ever-loving crap out of it.

Can you tell I have mass respect for our government? lmao... Ok, I promise I won't get on my political high horse ever again here, just figured I'd share.
 

martha1014

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I can't see them approving the use of nicotine in the strength we now have available to us. Look at gum and patches which are low in nicotine content. Eventually it will be approved but it won't do us any good at the 4mg to 6 mg.(or it want me) IMO the only way it will be approved are in rpefilled cart with very low nicotine levels. We will not be able to buy nicotine liquid (unless we make it ourselves). Just think about it, some of the mg. we can now purchase is dangerous and the FDA will never approve this.
 

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For me, a tax isn't the problem...It would be the ban on E-cig that I worry about...Lets face it...except for food and medicine, most everything else is taxed...so why should PVs be different....Enjoy..

What about the business that sell them? All of our favorite places to buy e-cig juices and accessories could be taxed into oblivion. We aren't exactly talking about businesses with the funds of big tobacco.

I can't see them approving the use of nicotine in the strength we now have available to us. Look at gum and patches which are low in nicotine content. Eventually it will be approved but it won't do us any good at the 4mg to 6 mg.(or it want me) IMO the only way it will be approved are in rpefilled cart with very low nicotine levels. We will not be able to buy nicotine liquid (unless we make it ourselves). Just think about it, some of the mg. we can now purchase is dangerous and the FDA will never approve this.

I doubt much would change. Each little pouch of Camel Snus has 8mg of nicotine and Snuff is even more potent.
 
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Lisbeth

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All of these being reasons that it's critical to 1) get and stay involved with local legislation and events via the specific forum dedicated to that pursuit here and 2) Be active. A phone call to a your congressman takes all of five minutes, and an email less.

In Illinois, the participation of people on this forum that called, emailed, wrote and showed up last week resulted in victory for vapers.

Every voice counts. Truly.
 

Chazzman

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To think or wish that there will be no taxes on vaping products is both ludicrous and unrealistic.
The future of smoking is in this product.
The Government will need the revenue so it stands to reason it's going to happen.

The question is will it become as expensive as smoking analogs?
Personally, I don't care.

What I do care about is getting reliable and quality product and with that comes regulation.

I also hope that this product will be widely accepted; it should be.
It's the only logical alternative to smoking and it works!
 
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