What is the difference between the eGo models?
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/398058-ego-t-ego-c-ego-xyz.html#post9092497
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There are knockoffs and clones of all of them. Best to find a joyetech dealer - cignot is my go to vendor for Joye. If you don't see 'joyetech' somewhere on a site, good probability of a knock off. If they say 'works with Joye' or has 'Joye connection', etc. = not a joyetech product. Some clones have joyetech logo on the battery. Just because it says 'eGo-c' or 'eGo-c Twist' doesn't mean it's a Joye. Most of the problems you'll see on this forum are knockoffs although there is always the possibility of 'lemon' from Joye, but it's rare.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/398058-ego-t-ego-c-ego-xyz.html#post9092497
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There are knockoffs and clones of all of them. Best to find a joyetech dealer - cignot is my go to vendor for Joye. If you don't see 'joyetech' somewhere on a site, good probability of a knock off. If they say 'works with Joye' or has 'Joye connection', etc. = not a joyetech product. Some clones have joyetech logo on the battery. Just because it says 'eGo-c' or 'eGo-c Twist' doesn't mean it's a Joye. Most of the problems you'll see on this forum are knockoffs although there is always the possibility of 'lemon' from Joye, but it's rare.
That being said, should i shop a local vendor,.or buy from fasttech for my ego c twist?
Hmmm.... Suggest finding a true Joye vendor and buy from them. Some locals have true Joyes. Fasttech is cheaper but the probability of getting a DOA or one that lasts only a few weeks is about 3 out of 5 so you might want to buy more than one.
Smoktech makes a fine eGo battery...I have a couple of them, including the "etched" dragon and Egyptian ones and a magnetic passthrough. I get GREAT battery life from them, and have had no trouble from any of them (have had the dragon one since early 2012.) So Joye isn't the ONLY "good" eGo out there (I have several of the Joyetech also) but unquestionably they are considered top drawer. My Vapor Store sells genuine Joyetech, so does Stormy's Vapor Cellar, Surevapes, Madvapes, and GotVapes. Lots of choices for them, really. Most of mine are eGo T (some upgrade, some not). I do have one eGo C upgrade and am impressed with it's battery life. Other than just the name...they all have the same threading and work pretty much the same.
I just wanted to throw this out there for people scared of buying non-joye eGos.
I've been into vaping for several years now, and have the typical "vaper junk box" full of tons of no-longer-used vape goods. This box used to hold tons of eGos, but as vaping spread throughout my friends and family they were slowly given away and now I only have a 350mAh and a 900mAh Smoktech left.
Anyway, the eGos I've given away were SmokTechs, Joyes, no-name ones, Rivas, etc etc. My sister texted me today asked if I had an extra eGo battery she could buy cheap from me. I knew she had tons of wondered why she wanted another. Evidently her others died, and the only eGo batteries she has left are the two smoktechs from her first vaping kit.
Of all the various brands of eGo batts I've given away, everyone still has their smoktechs, nobody has their joyes, rivas, pretty colored fancy no-name ego batteries left, as they failed. The only eGo batteries I still have that work are the Smoktechs
That being said, I also had a friend's bother buy a SmokTech ego starter kit about 6-8 months ago, and one of his died right away. But in my personal experience, smoktech has been the most reliable brand for eGo batteries. Make of that what you will. Electronics usually have a similar type of life expectancy with fellow products. Meaning, if it doesn't die right away, it will usually last awhile. ST's "lasting awhile" seems longer than any other brand, but their chances of dying right away seem higher.
As someone else pointed out, Janty was the originator of the eGo battery. They had Joye manufacture it for them, and then Joye started selling them under its own name. Not sure if that was all above board as far as Janty was concerned, but I'm pretty sure they knew it would happen considering Chinese manufacturers usually won't make anything for you unless you allow them to sell your product design under their own label.
It's really hard to know what factories things are coming from, for all we know other brands of eGo batteries are quite literally coming from the same production line as Joyes. I'm not saying that's true, just saying it's hard to tell. I've yet to see anyone pinpoint exactly where the quality differences are between joye and other ego batts, as in the brand/model of cell, type of materials used for the body, brand of electronics, etc. There seems to just be personal opinion on the matter, and there are so many variables it's totally impossible to make any sort of meaningful comparison based on the experiences of a few hundred people on a forum. Or from a few dozen personal purchases.
Personally, if I were to buy another eGo battery, the brand would be the absolutely last thing on my list I cared about.
I've been into vaping for several years now, and have the typical "vaper junk box" full of tons of no-longer-used vape goods. This box used to hold tons of eGos, but as vaping spread throughout my friends and family they were slowly given away and now I only have a 350mAh and a 900mAh Smoktech left.
Anyway, the eGos I've given away were SmokTechs, Joyes, no-name ones, Rivas, etc etc. My sister texted me today asked if I had an extra eGo battery she could buy cheap from me. I knew she had tons of wondered why she wanted another. Evidently her others died, and the only eGo batteries she has left are the two smoktechs from her first vaping kit.
Of all the various brands of eGo batts I've given away, everyone still has their smoktechs, nobody has their joyes, rivas, pretty colored fancy no-name ego batteries left, as they failed. The only eGo batteries I still have that work are the Smoktechs
That being said, I also had a friend's bother buy a SmokTech ego starter kit about 6-8 months ago, and one of his died right away. But in my personal experience, smoktech has been the most reliable brand for eGo batteries. Make of that what you will. Electronics usually have a similar type of life expectancy with fellow products. Meaning, if it doesn't die right away, it will usually last awhile. ST's "lasting awhile" seems longer than any other brand, but their chances of dying right away seem higher.
As someone else pointed out, Janty was the originator of the eGo battery. They had Joye manufacture it for them, and then Joye started selling them under its own name. Not sure if that was all above board as far as Janty was concerned, but I'm pretty sure they knew it would happen considering Chinese manufacturers usually won't make anything for you unless you allow them to sell your product design under their own label.
It's really hard to know what factories things are coming from, for all we know other brands of eGo batteries are quite literally coming from the same production line as Joyes. I'm not saying that's true, just saying it's hard to tell. I've yet to see anyone pinpoint exactly where the quality differences are between joye and other ego batts, as in the brand/model of cell, type of materials used for the body, brand of electronics, etc. There seems to just be personal opinion on the matter, and there are so many variables it's totally impossible to make any sort of meaningful comparison based on the experiences of a few hundred people on a forum. Or from a few dozen personal purchases.
Personally, if I were to buy another eGo battery, the brand would be the absolutely last thing on my list I cared about.
Seems I'm here because, yes, I'm already thinking of moving up from Halo G6s. This is due to the mini tank improvement on juice flavor/vapor over the cartos and the 'small' batts. Right now I'm chargeing both Halo 78mm batts each day.
To the point, the eGo is a 510 batt? I'm looking at and watching reading reviews of the Kanger Mini Protank II because of all the separate parts that can be replaced, the glass tank and the lack of leakage.
I am not sure what fitting, ergo battery style, is required cause I can't find a cross reference between batts and atomizers/clearomizers.
Geez, I hope the terminology is correct enough cause I really don't know what I'm talking about LOL and I am trying to avoid becoming a vape equip technician/mechanic.
Or... I'm trying to set my path and stay on it. I know I said that with Halo G6 to Halo Triton but Kanger may give more options over time.
Fasttech is fine for when you have your day to day setup and your backup in place. Do not use them if you need something in the next 3 weeks to a month. There have been a lot of shipping problems with batteries and liquids since about September 10, 2013 and they are not resolved yet. Once you are all set for what you need now, then it is up to you if you want to gamble. There is a Fasttech sub forum here. I suggest you go there and do some reading.
For what you need now, your setup and your backup, I would shop US based vendor for name brand. Online prices are usually better than B&M, but if you have a good B&M near you the convenience and face to face help may be worth it to you.
You did pretty good with the terminology.
The eGo has a 510 connection and an eGo connection. The original eGo used a regular 510 atomizer which screwed into threads that were the same threads of a 510 battery. But it also had 'cone threading' for the cone, which was part cosmetic - it narrowed from the diameter of the batt to the regular 510 atomizer/cartridge.
Since then, some clearos still use the 510 connection with an 'eGo skirt' covering the eGo cone threading. And some clearos use JUST the eGo threading. Kangers - T3/T3S, MT3/MT3S, Evod, Mini Protank (all versions) and the 'Baby T3' use the eGo threading. The bigger protank has 510 threading but has an adapter that is a 'reverse cone' since the Protank is a bigger diameter than the battery.
For replacement coils on the Kangers - The difference between the T3 and MT3 vs. the T3S and MT3S is that the latter has separate base and coil units, where with the former the base and coil are one unit. This makes the T3S and MT3S coil replacement cheaper - coil only. And those replacement coils fit those clearos plus the Evod and the protank and protank mini. The replacement coils for the Evod and protanks only fit those clearos.
You're halos will still fit the 510 connection on the eGo but the eGo sized clearos will have more capacity. The T3/T3S and the MT3/MT3S are 3ml and the Evod and mini protanks are @1.6ml.
The main reason that ego threading and 510 threading is so popular is because those two threading styles are pretty much the standard right now in mainstream vaping. If you purchase something with one of those two threads you can pretty much use it on any other device that has the same type of threading. Some of the smaller devices have 808 type threading and there are adapters out there.
The thing that locks some people in is when they purchase from a vendor that has their own proprietary threading - those will not work with anything other than things sold by that vendor. I am not saying that is bad. I am saying that you need to be aware of that before you purchase.
If you want the most versatility in your equipment get the ego/510 threading. If it does not matter to you then don't worry about it.
The thing that locks some people in is when they purchase from a vendor that has their own proprietary threading - those will not work with anything other than things sold by that vendor. I am not saying that is bad. I am saying that you need to be aware of that before you purchase.
If you want the most versatility in your equipment get the ego/510 threading. If it does not matter to you then don't worry about it.
Yup...not like you can't get 5 for less than the price of two..however if you need em now or before a month is out...DON'T order from FT!
$50.90 EGO-C Twist 900mAh Variable Voltage Rechargeable Batteries for E-Cigarette (5-Pack) - ships with one of each color / 3.2-4.8V / 791mA tested capacity at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Here are two 1300's for $6 and some change each
$12.71 SFL 1300mAh Rechargeable Batteries for E-Cigarette (2-Pack) 2-pack - ships one of each color at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
I was wondering if anyone else was going to point this out. Thanks for saying it.
Now, like UC said, Joye is just a manufacturer of other's designs, so when you buy an authentic Joye product, it's literally someone else's product that Joye labels as their own. So are Joyes fakes? No, not necessarily as they are really made by Joye and who knows what type of agreement the designer had to agree to. But, Janty no longer uses Joyetech as a manufacturer, so Janty products and Joye products both are Janty designs, but now Janty manufacturers their own. I think Ovale still uses Joyetech for manufacturing (for the time being), so Ovale designs become Joyetech products as well as Ovale products. Make sense? LOL
I have never owned a Janty or Ovale product from the source, just Joye branded. It's funny because the gold Joyetech band on the attys is what distinguishes an "authentic" Joye. Look at the Janty (original design) of the 510 sr atty and look at the Joye:
I have never owned a Janty product, well, not technically, but you can see what Joyetech did.
If anyone would like to look further into this, just look up Janty vs. Joyetech or Ovale vs. Joyetech. There's info out there.
I would also like to say that I have seen some people say they've gotten better luck with one over the other, so it's not a fool-proof plan to buy from the original designer or original manufacturer. No matter how you slice it, they all function as ecig devices and we all know how finicky ecig devices can be. As of now, I buy Joye because of the price I can get them at (Digital Ciggz low, low prices), but I will buy a Janty, from Janty, labeled Janty at some point because they are the brains behind the eGo.
Excellent points, as always, Mann. From what I understand, Joyetech was in the laminate floor business before partnering with Janty back in the day. Here's an interview with the creator of the original eGo.
In this interview, Ovale USA's Brandon Crow explains the relationship between Ovale and Joyetech.
It's only been told about 10 times a year in this forum. Usually by me. Welcome to the eGo-types forum Mr. Mann and RPad
eg.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...atteries-why-so-many-fake-3.html#post10211425
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...d-break-before-getting-apv-3.html#post9414033
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It's only been told about 10 times a year in this forum. Usually by me. Welcome to the eGo-types forum Mr. Mann and RPad
eg.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...atteries-why-so-many-fake-3.html#post10211425
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...d-break-before-getting-apv-3.html#post9414033
Obviously you know, Kent. LOL. I just wondered why this same question continues to pop-up with all the info currently available on ECF. Then again, I imagine I will also sit back and watch people post in the NT thread wondering what an NET is (I can't even answer it any more). Search engines are cool though.
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