What is the identity of this 510 carto

[pcijohn]

I have the ones that need to be filled with the needle. You have to punch the hole in the carto the first time. I am new to cartos and cannot remember where I got these and which ones they are. What is the difference between these and the boge soft caps.
Thanks

 

[jmanning]

Those are probably Joye cartos. CigNot has them. They are similar to the mega cartos.

The Boge and similar 510 cartos have filler similar to a cart, and a tube down the middle, that you can see when you pop off the soft cap.