What makes a quality e- liquid in your opinion?

[nomoMarlboro]

The juices I love all have kind of the same characteristic. They all have this oily yummy taste to them. I have tried so many different vendors and so many different juices. Most are all the same **** with different flavors.
What do you think makes a juice stand out from the rest.

 

[bnrkwest]

Clean taste made with US ingredients does it for me bnrk

 

[Hottody]

The juice does not taste artificial! I've had some that just have an odd aftertaste! So to answer your question... I like a juice that is much like is description! One that I can determine the flavor without reading a description before hand! I also like a juice that is affordable and provides ample vapor!

 

[Ctor]

I'm not sure what makes a quality juice, but I know it when I taste it.

It seems to me that juice mixing is like cooking, it's a mix of art and science. And most juice vendors I tried, like most restaurants, have some outstanding dishes, some ordinary dishes, and some dishes that just don't appeal to me.

 

[Hottody]

Very well said Ctor! PERFECT!

 

[ohai]

For simple, single flavor type juices, like fruits or plain aromatics, purity of flavor is important- no weird chemically aftertaste- and strength- in a single flavor juice I think it should be upfront and very clearly what it is. If there are flavors enhancing the main flavor, they should be in the background doing just that, enhancing and supporting, but not obvious.

For multiple flavor blends, nuance and balance. Every note needs to be there for a reason, complimenting the other flavors, with nothing jarringly ovewhelming or out of place. There's an art to it, and I really admire people who do a complex recipe well.

Above all else for me is that chemically aftertaste thing, which is more noticeable in complex flavors, I think- I can't stand it, and I can't vape it. Weirdly enough, the biggest offenders for this aftertaste seem to be the ones who advertise their juices as organic or all-natural. Steeping can help get rid of it, but for some juices, it never goes away.

 

[YorkieGirl1]

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Above all else for me is that chemically aftertaste thing, which is more noticeable in complex flavors, I think- I can't stand it, and I can't vape it. Weirdly enough, the biggest offenders for this aftertaste seem to be the ones who advertise their juices as organic or all-natural. Steeping can help get rid of it, but for some juices, it never goes away.

Ive been playing around alot lately with the all organic flavorings. They definetly have a much sweeter taste than artificial flavorings, but yes do have a different taste with them. Its been really throwing me off. I wonder if its because Im so use to the artificial flavorings being the norm. Im really trying to make the organics work, but it definetly is very different!!!!

 

[ohai]

Ive been playing around alot lately with the all organic flavorings. They definetly have a much sweeter taste than artificial flavorings, but yes do have a different taste with them. Its been really throwing me off. I wonder if its because Im so use to the artificial flavorings being the norm. Im really trying to make the organics work, but it definetly is very different!!!!

I've been thinking about it, and I'm wondering if maybe artificial flavors just overcompensate better, and thus hide the other chemicals in the juice better. I'm kind of a granola nature girl type person, and I lean toward buying organic, natural, pesticide, preservative free things as a general rule, so it kind of pains me to admit I'm not loving "organic" e-juices at all.

 

[spaceballsrules]

Ive been playing around alot lately with the all organic flavorings. They definetly have a much sweeter taste than artificial flavorings, but yes do have a different taste with them. Its been really throwing me off. I wonder if its because Im so use to the artificial flavorings being the norm. Im really trying to make the organics work, but it definetly is very different!!!!

That might be because of the VG used as the carrier for organic extracts. VG has a natural sweetness to it. Synthesized flavors are typically suspended in propylene glycol or PGA AFAIK.

I've been thinking about it, and I'm wondering if maybe artificial flavors just overcompensate better, and thus hide the other chemicals in the juice better. I'm kind of a granola nature girl type person, and I lean toward buying organic, natural, pesticide, preservative free things as a general rule, so it kind of pains me to admit I'm not loving "organic" e-juices at all.

Chemically speaking, artificial flavors are perfect. They are isolated chemical compounds that make up a specific flavor that reacts in a very specific way with your taste buds, and that's it. Naturally extracted flavors contain a lot of impurities, and are, therefore, imperfect. Those impurities may add depth and dimension to a flavor, but they also alter the core flavor overall.

 

[hitman4274]

I'm not sure what makes a quality juice, but I know it when I taste it.

It seems to me that juice mixing is like cooking, it's a mix of art and science. And most juice vendors I tried, like most restaurants, have some outstanding dishes, some ordinary dishes, and some dishes that just don't appeal to me.

This is a spot on answer...
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[ohai]

That might be because of the VG used as the carrier for organic extracts. VG has a natural sweetness to it. Synthesized flavors are typically suspended in propylene glycol or PGA AFAIK.

Now that's interesting, because I think I'm noticing that I prefer juices that have a higher PG to VG ratio lately. Maybe I'm disliking the flavor of the VG- I do know too much of it mutes the flavor for me.

 

[spaceballsrules]

Now that's interesting, because I think I'm noticing that I prefer juices that have a higher PG to VG ratio lately. Maybe I'm disliking the flavor of the VG- I do know too much of it mutes the flavor for me.

Oh hey, Ohai!

^^^I edited my previous post with a response to your previous previous post. ^^^

You should try some unflavored PG and VG and see what they taste like by themselves so you know what effect they have on overall flavor for you personally.

 

[nomoMarlboro]

To me the juice from this particular place taste completely different than any other juice I've tried. Their stuff seem as if they were made from something different than everyone else's or they add some kind of oil or something to it that makes so rich and delicious. I wish I knew what?

 

[spaceballsrules]

To me the juice from this particular place taste completely different than any other juice I've tried. Their stuff seem as if they were made from something different than everyone else's or they add some kind of oil or something to it that makes so rich and delicious. I wish I knew what?

Which vendor are you talking about? It's OK to discuss specificvendors BTW. That's what this forum is for.

 

[ohai]

Oh hey, Ohai!

^^^I edited my previous post with a response to your previous previous post. ^^^

Hey!

I reread that- thankyou. You put into words what I basically understood but wasn't able to really articulate to myself. Artificial flavorings have been specifically crafted to mimic whatever they're supposed to taste like exactly, while natural extracts are limited to whatever an extract of that flavor might contain- and if it loses something in the translation, it's just lost- you can't put it back with some other chemical, or it ceases to be "organic".

You should try some unflavored PG and VG and see what they taste like by themselves so you know what effect they have on overall flavor for you personally.

I do have some, but I've never vaped one or the other by itself. Because I like to drip, I really do prefer higher PG- it just works better in my atties, but on the other hand, thicker juices do kinda last longer, and one of my fav vendors uses higher VG, I just don't know how much higher. I do think if I were making all my own juices, I'd be doing at least a 70/30 mix. If I had to chose between strength of flavor and vapor production, I'd pick flavor, but then I've read that VG can help hide a chemical aftertaste as well.

All of this (and more) is why I really have the utmost respect for the creators, both professional and DIY. There are so many factors to consider, and so many complex balances to achieve for the best possible performance and taste.

 

[YorkieGirl1]

That might be because of the VG used as the carrier for organic extracts. VG has a natural sweetness to it. Synthesized flavors are typically suspended in propylene glycol or PGA AFAIK.

I actually LOVE vg - I keep my mix the same (30/70 or 40/60) so I know its not the VG. Some of the organics have a different type of aftertaste sorta i guess isthe best way to explain it, others dont -- its hard to explain =(. Im trying to "fix" it, but no luck yet with some of them.
By accident, the first time I ordered organics I got the regular ones (mixed with Ethyl alcohol instead of VG). All I can say is YUCKERS!! lol. Hard lesson learned =(.

 

[YorkieGirl1]

Could it be a higher VG ratio? In my opinion, VG is a sweet softer type of additive that tastes very different than PG. Other than that, maybe EM? (But i think alot of vendors add EM though so thats probably not it).

To me the juice from this particular place taste completely different than any other juice I've tried. Their stuff seem as if they were made from something different than everyone else's or they add some kind of oil or something to it that makes so rich and delicious. I wish I knew what?

 

[nomoMarlboro]

Which vendor are you talking about? It's OK to discuss specificvendors BTW. That's what this forum is for.

It is Johnson Creek. Their juice has this particular taste that is very different than any other juice I have tried so far. It feels oily and very rich with a great aroma.

 

[YorkieGirl1]

My vote is on the VG then. Im pretty sure they are 100%VG. Someone will chime in to tell u for sure though.

It is Johnson Creek. Their juice has this particular taste that is very different than any other juice I have tried so far. It feels oily and very rich with a great aroma.

 

[dragonbone]

Which vendor are you talking about? It's OK to discuss specificvendors BTW. That's what this forum is for.

Hehe... I'm replying to you, although you asked Momo. I too love the taste of a certain vendor's juice (KBV). Doesn't matter how great a DIY recipe is, I doubt one could duplicate the base rich taste. Maybe I just don't have the right nic base and/or that certain special secret ingredient that some Vendors have...