I have been using the MVP V2 and the Halo Triton as my sources of vaping pleasure. They have got me to this point, I am ready for more, more power, more vapor, more flavor, more everything. I feel like I might want to drip and that seems to entail rebuilding. So, I guess my question is, what do I look to now for the next stage of my evolution in vaping. Money wise, I will be more comfortable in the clone world. What mod should I get, taking into account the more everything thinking. Also what are good rda/RBA's that work great but might be easier then some to learn on. In the end, I don't want to get the feeling I need more after this, so what do I get, any suggestions, advice would be great. Thanks.
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Somewhere I read that it's better to buy a cheap original than a clone. I did and it was a very well made mech, a Siegelei. But you can take that for what it's worth. A well made clone can be just as good. The Ephro Cronus is a nice mech as well. Both are what I'm looking for in a mod. Good clean contacts, easy to screw on and off, buttery threads, nice fire button (non clicky or crunchy). I got a SvoeMoesto 3.1 Kayfun RBA and it's easy to build and works amazing on these mechs. I'm sure there are other great mechs out there that are clones I just can't keep up with them all and one I bought had all the bad attributes I didn't want so I try to be really careful when reviewing one for purchase. There will be many posters with great experiences to tell you what they've used.
PS. I also use Sony IMR 18650, VTC4. I have kanthal ranging from 28-32 but like the 28 best, it gives the most consistent wraps and readings for me. I'm still a noob at it. You'll need an ohm's meter, some just use their mod to do it, and you'll want a voltage meter to test your batteries. You will learn when your battery drops off, it's pretty apparent. Read up on battery safety, it's worth it! Learn about what can happen if things short, what to do if your battery vents, etc.....be safe.
PS. I also use Sony IMR 18650, VTC4. I have kanthal ranging from 28-32 but like the 28 best, it gives the most consistent wraps and readings for me. I'm still a noob at it. You'll need an ohm's meter, some just use their mod to do it, and you'll want a voltage meter to test your batteries. You will learn when your battery drops off, it's pretty apparent. Read up on battery safety, it's worth it! Learn about what can happen if things short, what to do if your battery vents, etc.....be safe.
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I have no problems with clones, but I also must admit that I could have saved myself a lot of money if I had just started out on the reo. I fell in love with dripping which is why the reo is so perfect for me. Dripping really is the ultimate and you can taste the difference. So much more pronounced flavors. When I started dripping I felt like I had new juice. You should really give it a try. Good luck to you at finding what rocks your vaping world. That is what it is all about. Have fun and happy vaping to you. 
Dripping is good if you have the time to do it...I found that constantly having to re-saturate my wick was getting to be a pain (when I'm not working, I'm up and down a lot, going from room to room, etc). I found that my Kayfun clone gives me the same flavor as dripping with the added benefit of a tank so that I don't have to constantly be...well,...dripping. A Reo would be a good alternative also, but I already had a mech so the Kayfun was a good, low cost way to get there for me.
A Reo would be a good alternative also, but I already had a mech so the Kayfun was a good, low cost way to get there for me.134 isn't going to offer you a whole lot of power boost... It will add a little, but honestly if you wanna stick with the lower-end variable mods, get a provari. If you want to stick with regulated mods but you want more power, get a DNA30 or something similar (Even the 50w box mods aren't horribly expensive now, I remember seeing one a while back for like $99.99). If you want to keep it cheap and still delve into the sub-ohm territory, grab yourself a nice mech mod clone.
If you go the mech route, it's by far the most dangerous. Make sure you know your battery safety, mech mod safety, and a way to measure your resistance (either multimeter or preferably ohms meter with 510 connection, do NOT rely on your MVP 2.0 for sub ohm readings, that extra decimal means a lot the lower you go). That being said, I'm currently using a mech with a dripper and absolutely loving it
If you go the mech route, it's by far the most dangerous. Make sure you know your battery safety, mech mod safety, and a way to measure your resistance (either multimeter or preferably ohms meter with 510 connection, do NOT rely on your MVP 2.0 for sub ohm readings, that extra decimal means a lot the lower you go). That being said, I'm currently using a mech with a dripper and absolutely loving it
134 isn't going to offer you a whole lot of power boost... It will add a little, but honestly if you wanna stick with the lower-end variable mods, get a provari. If you want to stick with regulated mods but you want more power, get a DNA30 or something similar (Even the 50w box mods aren't horribly expensive now, I remember seeing one a while back for like $99.99). If you want to keep it cheap and still delve into the sub-ohm territory, grab yourself a nice mech mod clone.
If you go the mech route, it's by far the most dangerous. Make sure you know your battery safety, mech mod safety, and a way to measure your resistance (either multimeter or preferably ohms meter with 510 connection, do NOT rely on your MVP 2.0 for sub ohm readings, that extra decimal means a lot the lower you go). That being said, I'm currently using a mech with a dripper and absolutely loving it
Mechs aren't necessarily only for sub-ohm vaping. Agreed on the MM for safety in general, but sub-ohming is not a prerequisite for owning (and using) a mech.
The Infinite Black Copper Stingray clone has been good to me. Copper gives less voltage drop, but it's a softer metal. I did wind up messing up the threading a bit on the large tube that came with it. I can only use 18490's as my largest battery now.
The Hcigar Nemesis clone seems to be a bit sturdier. Well, more then seems to be, as it's still functional and my husband has been using it. He has a habit of falling asleep on the couch and forgetting his mod is on his lap. He'll get up, and it would go flying. So far, the longest lasting mods in his destructive hands has been the stainless steel Nemesis clone and the Provari.
For the dripper, I'm quite pleased with my Tobh clone. Hits hard and doesn't get too hot with the heat sinking fins on top. Easy dual coil build as well. Got it right on my first attempt! Great flavor times 20, and huge, thick, almost creamy clouds. I can see why the large clouds has a certain appeal, but I'm mostly a flavor junkie, rather then a cloud chaser.
Kayfuns are flavor makers, and Ehpro makes the best clones I think. Get the Kayfun Lite by Ehpro as your out and about option, if you don't care to drip while out.
For batteries and chargers, don't go cheap. A good charger isn't all that expensive anyway, so there's no reason to go cheap. I got the Nitecore i2, a well regarded charger, for around $14. Until recently, I've exclusively used AW IMR batteries, which are some well regarded batteries with some pretty safe chemistry. I do have a Sony VTC4 on the way though. Sony VTC5 would be even better for sub ohming. Watch for clones on the batteries. The AW IMR batteries have the hologram stickers now, rather the the black and silver ones. Most of the cloned batteries will have the black and silver.
Get an ohm meter and a voltage meter to check resistance of your coils and the remaining life/voltage of your batteries. Always test before firing. Pbusardo has a battery info page on his site tasteyourjuice.com, which will tell you the max amps of several of the most popular batteries. Google ohms law calculator, plug in the resistance (ohms) of your coils, and the voltage your battery is putting out, and the calculator will tell you the amps the whole set up is using. Check to make sure you are within the safe range for the brand and size of your battery, and you should be perfectly fine!
The Hcigar Nemesis clone seems to be a bit sturdier. Well, more then seems to be, as it's still functional and my husband has been using it. He has a habit of falling asleep on the couch and forgetting his mod is on his lap. He'll get up, and it would go flying. So far, the longest lasting mods in his destructive hands has been the stainless steel Nemesis clone and the Provari.
For the dripper, I'm quite pleased with my Tobh clone. Hits hard and doesn't get too hot with the heat sinking fins on top. Easy dual coil build as well. Got it right on my first attempt! Great flavor times 20, and huge, thick, almost creamy clouds. I can see why the large clouds has a certain appeal, but I'm mostly a flavor junkie, rather then a cloud chaser.
Kayfuns are flavor makers, and Ehpro makes the best clones I think. Get the Kayfun Lite by Ehpro as your out and about option, if you don't care to drip while out.
For batteries and chargers, don't go cheap. A good charger isn't all that expensive anyway, so there's no reason to go cheap. I got the Nitecore i2, a well regarded charger, for around $14. Until recently, I've exclusively used AW IMR batteries, which are some well regarded batteries with some pretty safe chemistry. I do have a Sony VTC4 on the way though. Sony VTC5 would be even better for sub ohming. Watch for clones on the batteries. The AW IMR batteries have the hologram stickers now, rather the the black and silver ones. Most of the cloned batteries will have the black and silver.
Get an ohm meter and a voltage meter to check resistance of your coils and the remaining life/voltage of your batteries. Always test before firing. Pbusardo has a battery info page on his site tasteyourjuice.com, which will tell you the max amps of several of the most popular batteries. Google ohms law calculator, plug in the resistance (ohms) of your coils, and the voltage your battery is putting out, and the calculator will tell you the amps the whole set up is using. Check to make sure you are within the safe range for the brand and size of your battery, and you should be perfectly fine!
I guess I am not getting it yet, so the Kayfun is an Atomizer? I am not striving to rebuild, Im looking to get more power and more flavor, you say the Kayfun gives great flavor, isnt it a dripper, or do I have things mixed up, is the Kayfun a tank, doesnt it need to be rebuilt? Thanks for this info folks. I'm slowly putting the picture together a bit.Dripping is good if you have the time to do it...I found that constantly having to re-saturate my wick was getting to be a pain (when I'm not working, I'm up and down a lot, going from room to room, etc). I found that my Kayfun clone gives me the same flavor as dripping with the added benefit of a tank so that I don't have to constantly be...well,...dripping.
Kayfuns are a rebuildable atomizer/tank system. They hold about 4 ml of liquid, but the flavor is very close to dripping. Kayfuns do require rebuilding, but the flavor is worth it. If you don't want to go that route yet, I would suggest looking for 510 dripping atomizers. They are cheap and disposable, and give you an idea if you will like dripping or not. You can use them on a Provari, or even on another VV/VW device with a regulated battery. If you like it, you can move up to something like an HH357.
This thread is a good one if you want to explore dripping.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/329564-suggestions-atomizers-dripping.html
You'll find that when you drip, you have much more effect from your juice (not just flavor), so you can often do just fine vaping at 4-5 volts and get more TH and vapor than you do with a typical clearo.
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Not all drippers have to be rebuildable.
Here is a great blog post on dripping by ECF member The Ocelot: Drip, Drip, Drip - The Sound of Dripping.
Here is a great blog post on dripping by ECF member The Ocelot: Drip, Drip, Drip - The Sound of Dripping.
Exact position I was in a week ago. I was vaping on an mvp 2.0 with a kayfun clone. Made the jump into mechs and got an Hcigar Nemesis with an igo w. Point is, an incredible upgrade. So that's my experience at least.
True, you can use any atty on it you want... I really don't see the point on using a mech over a regulated mod if you're not sub ohming tho. A 1Ω coil will give you 17w on a freshly charged battery (assuming no voltage drop) and 1.5Ω under 12w... 20w mods are fairly common and would be a lot safer, give you a more consistent vape, and more power.
Meant lower-end as in lower power. Correct me if I'm wrong as I don't own one, but to my knowledge ProVari has a 3.5 amp limit... Which would leave the "cap" for wattage at 21w, assuming you're giving it all 6 volts on a 1.71Ω coil. Compared to a DNA30, that's ~33% less wattage. If you build .3Ω on a mech (assuming no voltage drop), that's ~65% less wattage.
All depends on the clone. There are instances out there where clones are better than originals... And instances where clones are complete ..... Do your research not only on the mod itself but the specific clone you're buying and you can find a just as good clone for almost everything out there.
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For a re-buildable dripping atomizer, the Magma style is great. You can build it with singe or dual coils, I run a single coil in it. It has adjustable air flow. It has holes to capture your wire, so I found it very easy to build. The best part for me is that it has a deep well that can easily hold 20 drops or more, so you don't have to constantly re-drip.
I got mine from FT, I'm pretty sure there are US sources too.
$15.79 Magma Style Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - 1:1 clone / stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
I got mine from FT, I'm pretty sure there are US sources too.
$15.79 Magma Style Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - 1:1 clone / stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
I agree with sticking to VV/VW mods for the safety aspect of built in protection. It's too easy to have a meltdown in a mech if you happen to create a short on a rebuildable without checking it out on an ohmmeter first. Some variables can go as low as an ohm these days. If an ohm isn't enough you can crank the voltage to compensate and still be protected by the electronics. The Sigelei Zmax goes to 4 amps. The Provari does 3.5 amps.
The MVP will drip as well as most others. You may just have the solution in your hand. I'd be wary of the built-in battery in the MVP. It's 2600mah, but what do you do when it needs a charge and you need to vape? The VTR with it's replaceable battery would be my choice in the square mod family. If I replace my 18650 in the morning, I need to do it again after supper to start the recharge when it hits 3.5v.
Rebuilding coils is easy once you do a few. I like the Kayfun 3.1 for flavor.
The MVP will drip as well as most others. You may just have the solution in your hand. I'd be wary of the built-in battery in the MVP. It's 2600mah, but what do you do when it needs a charge and you need to vape? The VTR with it's replaceable battery would be my choice in the square mod family. If I replace my 18650 in the morning, I need to do it again after supper to start the recharge when it hits 3.5v.
Rebuilding coils is easy once you do a few. I like the Kayfun 3.1 for flavor.
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JMO.... go to a quality vape shop and get a feel for what appeals to you. don't buy right off the bat. go home and start doing a little research on that style. be sure to look at the cons side of opinions. everyone loves their brand new mod so i pay extra attention to the complaints from users who have had them longer than a month.
i also personally will no longer buy a clone of anything. i could have saved a couple of grand on equipment by doing the proper research and supporting quality original equipment manufacturers . properly cared for most of these retain roughly 90% of their value so if you do want to switch up you can get your hard earned cash back. clones will sit and gather dust. there are some great American equipment makers that will also provide great service after the sale.
whichever way you go, try not to be impulsive. there will probably be a new and better device at least every week. unless you can afford them all taking the time to talk with more experienced users will pay off in the end.. good luck with your journey. <*}}}>{....
i also personally will no longer buy a clone of anything. i could have saved a couple of grand on equipment by doing the proper research and supporting quality original equipment manufacturers . properly cared for most of these retain roughly 90% of their value so if you do want to switch up you can get your hard earned cash back. clones will sit and gather dust. there are some great American equipment makers that will also provide great service after the sale.
whichever way you go, try not to be impulsive. there will probably be a new and better device at least every week. unless you can afford them all taking the time to talk with more experienced users will pay off in the end.. good luck with your journey. <*}}}>{....
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