What setup to use for my preferences?

[Snoopy25]

Hello!

I would like to try vaping and have been doing quite a lot of research on the internet about different mods and such. I have one or two questions:

-Is it possible, with mods, to produce a cool but thick vapor? From what I've read, it seems to me that if you want thicker vapor it'll be warmer, and thinner vapor is cooler. I am looking for something that is similar to hookah vapor, which is very thick but cool (I understand that in a hookah it passes through water first which is what cools it - so is this possible with a mod? Or will I have to choose between cool OR thick, and never get both?)

-I have more or less decided upon a "beginner" setup and would love opinions on it before buying anything: Joyetech eGo C Twist + Kanger Mini Protank 2. I am on a very tight budget but really don't want to start with a crappy $5 battery that might only last a few weeks and not perform very well. I also don't want to buy a plastic tank because I plan on trying organic e-liquids (Virgin Vapor seems nice) and don't want any plastic/glue to be messing with the liquid.

-Would you suggest a different setup in the same price range ($30-$40 max), taking into account my preference for a hookah-type vaping experience? I have also read that the type of e-liquid you use has an effect on the vapor itself. I plan on trying 100% VG nicotine-free liquids.

Thanks!

 

[pasture]

get a cheap battery and an aspire nautilis tank.
juice is also important. try nicoticket.

 

[ukeman]

you have good taste in what you want out of a vape….. not sure you can do that without being more expensive than your budget.

Maybe try a Protank. I've heard they have a great vape.

RDA's are what most experienced vapers use for lots of vapor (and good flavor)… lots of vapor usually requires a low resistance coil (or a higher resistance with more voltage/watts).

the warmth or coolness of lots of vapor imo depends on the chamber size of the RDA… a smaller chamber = good flavor and warmer vape. Larger chamber will cool it down.

but you are talking right into high end gear ($$$) there in my experience… i used to spend lots of money on smoking cigarettes so i had no qualms about buying better gear.

There are some clones of both PV's and RDA's out there…

but if you want to see what i consider the best at the moment, $$$, take a look at these:

for best flavor, tons of vapor and cooler… Prometey 2
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-reviews/508348-ti-prometey-2-drip-tank.htmlnewest
this one is coming out from the same maker:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-reviews/532213-titanium-achilles-dripper-review.html

Another to look up (google or search here on ecf) is the Origen Dripper… unlike the above two, this one is somewhat easily available.

 

[Snoopy25]

Thanks so much! I will definitely take all of that into consideration. I am actually an occasional smoker, a pack of cigarettes can last me 3 or 4 months (but then during a night of heavy partying I might smoke a whole pack). So vaping would actually be more expensive for me. But I do have a crazy candy/snacking addiction (I know how ridiculous that sounds), it's incredibly unhealthy and I probably waste about $30 a month on junk food so... I'm actually hoping that vaping will help me with the candy cravings.

I am willing to adventure into RDA's too, and rebuilding my own coils/wicks and stuff even though it seems a bit complicated at first, I'm sure I'll figure it out.

 

[slappy3139]

IGO L with air flow hole drilled out bigger will produce lots of cool vapor

 

[Dlo604]

Thanks so much! I will definitely take all of that into consideration. I am actually an occasional smoker, a pack of cigarettes can last me 3 or 4 months (but then during a night of heavy partying I might smoke a whole pack). So vaping would actually be more expensive for me. But I do have a crazy candy/snacking addiction (I know how ridiculous that sounds), it's incredibly unhealthy and I probably waste about $30 a month on junk food so... I'm actually hoping that vaping will help me with the candy cravings.

I am willing to adventure into RDA's too, and rebuilding my own coils/wicks and stuff even though it seems a bit complicated at first, I'm sure I'll figure it out.

I have a Mini Protank 2...love them.

 

[Bunnykiller]

gonna be hard to do.... your asking for top fuel dragster performance with a Smart car fuel economy.... to get lots of vapor you need heat and power....

 

[BeRight]

For a beginner into RDA I would also recommend IGO-L ($10) - simple single micro coil with cotton wick - place the top cap directly next to coil without any wick under coil nor on opposite side of vent hole: my vapes great with a cool thick vapor.
Just for an example for:
I run 1.5 ohm micro coil (28 gauge 12 wraps) cotton wick at 8 watts on my MVP 2 and is the sweet spot for my DIY juice.

Check out Rip Tripper on youtube for micro coil building

 

[Completely Average]

-Is it possible, with mods, to produce a cool but thick vapor?

Absolutely. That's exactly what most "cloud chasers" are doing. The trick is to use pure or close to a pure VG liquid and a long chimney between the coil and your lips.

-I have more or less decided upon a "beginner" setup and would love opinions on it before buying anything: Joyetech eGo C Twist + Kanger Mini Protank 2.

That is fine for the vast majority of beginners. Not sure it's going to be enough to make you happy though.

-Would you suggest a different setup in the same price range ($30-$40 max), taking into account my preference for a hookah-type vaping experience? I have also read that the type of e-liquid you use has an effect on the vapor itself. I plan on trying 100% VG nicotine-free liquids.

I'm going to be brutally honest here.

What you want cannot be obtained in your price range.

I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but that's just the reality of it. Fact is, for your hookah style use you need a powerful mod and either a really high end tank system or an RDA/RBA. Trying to go barebones cheap about it you would need an MVP 2.0 and a Kanger Aerotank (Or Protank 2 with Aerotank base) at the very least. $40 or so for the MVP and another $25 for the tank.

That's about as cheap as you're going to get that provides a hookah style experience.

Even with that I suspect you'll eventually find your way to a mech mod with an RDA. At that point you're going to be looking at $30+ in batteries, $10+ for a battery charger, $40+ for the mod, anywhere from $30 to over $100+ for the RDA/RBA, wire, and wicking material, and a good quality multimeter which start at about $20.

To give you an idea here, my Nemesis with Kayfun 3.1 was a total investment of $210.


But that will let you do this:

 

[Snoopy25]

Holy cow, that is a lot of vapor! It's like dreamland clouds. Although I definitely cannot afford a $200 setup anytime soon, I am really happy to discover that it is indeed possible to obtain the hookah-type experience that I'm looking for. I will keep all this in mind for the future when I have the money for it.

In the meantime, I guess I will have to settle for the best I can get for my under $50 college student budget, taking into account everything mentioned here (I will take a look at that IGO L). This forum is great, I was not expecting so many informative replies

 

[klynnn]

A good twist battery and a protank should be all you need for your purposes. Most all bottom coil devices have a cooler vape.