what should i get?

[giga8yte]

im looking at the liberation atom or the blu. i like the blu because it has the pcc. but the atom sounds better... what should i do? any other ones you would recommend? im looking for a mini. i got one from totally wicked but i had alot of atomizer issues.

 

[ProtoType]

If you want what everyone says is the best out there it's a Joye 510. If you want something small, automatic battery, good vapor, and cheap atomizers that work really well and tough all around then go with the RN4081. You can find both at Heaven-gifts.com Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop and Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail. Although, the ladder does not have RN4081.

The liberation atom is a M401. Here is a post I created. Hope it helps.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...n/29848-what-has-easiest-draw-most-vapor.html

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

im looking at the liberation atom or the blu. i like the blu because it has the pcc. but the atom sounds better... what should i do? any other ones you would recommend? im looking for a mini. i got one from totally wicked but i had alot of atomizer issues.

Never heard of the liberation atom, however, I have heard of the blu... and havent heard very many good things about them. There are a bunch of starter kits out there with PCC's, if thats whats attracting you.


   Joye 510, 510, Manual swtich 510, PCC - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd

There are plenty others as well!

 

[giga8yte]

whats the advantages of a manual battery over a automatic?

 

[ProtoType]

Vapor production and throat hit from what I hear. Everyone stands by manual and prefer it. I started with an automatic RN4081. I'll be testing out the Joye 510 with a manual battery tomorrow. I can't wait!

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

whats the advantages of a manual battery over a automatic?

I also should be getting mine tomorrow *Crosses Fingers*... I also hear that manuals allow for dripping , not that an auto doesnt but you have a good chance of leaking juice into your battery with an auto.

 

[Kent C]

whats the advantages of a manual battery over a automatic?

A small button correctly positioned on the battery to where it's natural. You control the battery and hence the atomizer. Hit it as you're going to take a drag and the vapor is already there. An auto activates on sound of the draw, so you start the battery and atty as you draw but it takes some time for the atty to heat up and vaporize the juice... so as you draw sometimes the mouthpiece acts as a straw and rather than vapor you can get juice in the mouth. With the manual the vaporization is already started when you draw.

Also the autos have an auto cutoff and sometimes just when you're getting a good vape going it shuts off on you. Enough practice (supposedly) you can vape these mini's and super mini's but I got my 510 before I could get it down and never looked back.

The manual has a sealed battery so dripping directly on the atomizer doesn't hurt it. The worse thing you can do on a 510 is to 'hang on the button' - which is tough on batts and attys. But just don't do that You'll get the hang of it. Gave one to my sister with just a little instruction. Didn't see her for weeks, then asked how it was going, any problems. "No. It's easy" lol. Not everyone has had that luck but in general if you read enough posts here and check out proto's poll you'll see which ones are more trouble free. (not totally trouble free but with the 510 you won't be running back to cigarettes just to get a good hit).

 

[Telegraft]

As I'm still in the learning process, the best I can say is to read these forums. There's tons of helpful people and a veritable treasure trove of information waiting to be read. The first few days can and will be frustrating, as using an electronic cigarette is not the same as a normal cigarette, not by any stretch of the imagination.

I also recommend the 510. From what I've heard on here and from coworkers who vape, manual batteries are far better than automatic ones. I'm sure there's some degree of personal preference, however, but I feel the positives of manual batteries just add up to a better experience.

 

[Elokin6]

I have an auto battery and a few manuals for my 510. At first, I thought I wouldn't like the manual batteries because it just sounded weird. I didn't really care either way at first, but now I'm in love with the manuals. I only really use the auto if it's the only one with a charge.
The biggest issue I've had with the auto is that it will go off when you don't want it to. Mine was going off in my backpack a few days ago, and apparently it got hot enough to cause the atomiser to taste like crap. Thankfully, I had a second atomiser with me so I wasn't SOL until I could get home to clean it.
The manuals also give you much better control over the amount of vapor. I really think it's a better vaping experience overall with a manual.

 

[wv2win]

If you want what everyone says is the best out there it's a Joye 510. If you want something small, automatic battery, good vapor, and cheap atomizers that work really well and tough all around then go with the RN4081. You can find both at Heaven-gifts.com Ruyandirect.com Best E-smoking Shop and Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail. Although, the ladder does not have RN4081.

The liberation atom is a M401. Here is a post I created. Hope it helps.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...n/29848-what-has-easiest-draw-most-vapor.html

First: manual switch PV's provide better performance and reliability than any auto switch PV such as the RN4081/SmokeEverywhere type of PV. If smoking is more of a pass-time than a habit and you will only be taking one hit an hour, then something like the RN4081 might work fine for you. If not stick with the manual switch PV's.

Second: the Joye 510 is a very good starter device that has a manual switch and is the closes to looking like the real thing and still provide good throat hit. It does have a few short comings, however such as very short battery life. It is not the best device, however, by a long shot when it comes to performance. Based on performance, long battery life and inexpensive batteries, the best PV's would be the premiere devices such as the Prodigy or GG to name a couple of them.

Note: the Blu has a much worse reputation than even the RN4081/SmokeEverywhere device.

 

[UptownRiot]

I'll weigh in here too.

First, DO NOT BUY BLU. If you want to know why there are dozens and dozens of threads here about unhappy Blu customers. Do a quick search and you'll see. They did a good job putting a website together, and making things look pretty and cheap, but they did a very poor job with everything else relating to their business.

Second, I'd highly recommend you skip the automatic battery choice. I started out with an RN4081 NPRO by NJOY. It was ok sometimes, but most of the time I got very poor performance out of it. I bought a Joye 510 and have been 100x happier with it since.

There are many suppliers here on the forums that sell the Joye 510 model. I personally bought mine from AltSmoke and was very satisfied with the customer service and shipping time from them. There are others here with just as good a reputation as AltSmoke though. Your best bet is to take a look at the Sponsoring supplier forums located here and get a better idea from there.

 

[giga8yte]

wow thx for all the replys the reason i considered the blu was because i loved the pcc. the link chief-a-lot gave to me has the 510 with the pcc. so im thinking of geting it and a spare atomizer.

oh another question... how many times can you refill a cartridge?

and.. i love clove cigs any places sell clove eliquid???