Oh,ok.Im sorry what I mean by "stock" (for lack of a better term) is cartos coming from a starter kit.The Bloog Max Fusion cartos are the best stock caros I've tried. As in non upgraded. Boge and other LR cartos and attys are typically things you can use to upgrade your PV. At least I havent seen them in kits.When you say the best "stock" cartos, are you talking about the Bloog or the Boge? If you were talking about Bloog cartos, that would indicate a little modding was needed to make the Boge perform since you said it produces more vapor.....
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