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Susan~S

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Hello and welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here!:)

1. Do you have an ohm reader or a DMM to measure your build before firing it on your mod?
2. What the the ohm of your current build?
3. What mod are you using?
4. Have you read up on battery safety, ohms law, amp draw?

Just so you are aware, your 35A batteries are really only 20A Here is a blog post by Baditude (our battery/safety expert).

Purple Efest Batteries Not as Advertised
 
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It sounds like you have a lot to learn about your setup. There's more to rebuilding than just learning how to wrap coils and adding the wick.

You need to be able to measure your coil resistance (Ohm reader), use to use an Ohm's Law calculator - Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohms Law calculators, and make sure the coil won't pull more current (amps) than your battery has - Battery Basics for Mods

Mechanical mods with sub-ohm coils can be dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.

Information Resources for Your First RBA

0.4 ohms is the absolute lowest you can go with your battery. However, its highly recommended for your first coils to be around 1.0 ohm until you have perfected your technique.
 

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0.4 ohms is lower than I intended this setup to go I figured that I could go to 1 ohm and stay around there and thank you for the link Ik i have a lot to learn but with the help of this site and a few buddies I'm learning quit a bit
Great! We're glad you are here and willing to research to be safe. Too many come here only wanting to know how to MAKE BIG CLOUDZ, but aren't willing to put in the mental work involved to do it safely. Just remember, there's no question too stupid to ask when it comes to safety.

Vape on, bro. :vapor:
 

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Well I was wondering what makes the coil have a lower ohm and what ohm meter do you recommend
Here is another blog post by Baditude. He has a link for meters and for a coil building calculator (as well as many other link to coil building accessories and supplies). Inexpensive Mechanical Mod/RDA Setup

Play with all the variables in the calculator and you will see how each affects the ohm of the coil.
 

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Just wondering but y is it to low I spoke to someone and they said it pulses at 60 or so and it doesn't get to hot in my hands
This is a touchy subject amongt some sub-ohmers. Maximum "continuous" discharge rating vs maximum "pulse" discharge rating. He's my take:

The "continuous discharge rating" in amps is the standard specification for amp limits within the battery industry. It is a determination made by the manufacturer and represents the amp limit a battery can be safely used before it will fail.

The "pulse or burst" discharge rating is not a specification standard within the battery industry. Every manufacturer or vendor seems to have their own definition of what the pulse rating is.

A pulse discharge rating is any use above the continuous discharge rating. It is never safe and not within the intended operating parameters of the battery. You should not intentionally operate your device above the continuous rating if you can help it. The pulse rating is a condition in which the battery is on basically a buildup to failure. It is exceeding the sustainable and intended discharge rate of the battery. It is inappropriate for a consumer device to operate in the pulse range of its battery.

Which would be why we shouldn't rely on any pulse rating. Any failure, mechanical or electronic, that fires the mod will operate in the 'continuous' mode. If your setup relies on a pulse rating, it's instantly over spec.

If your amp draw is safely in the continuous discharge range, your coil could act almost like a fuse and burn out before the battery is stressed. If you are already running the battery at the edge of it's limits (pulse), there is no margin of safety.

If your amp draw is safely in the continuous range, you'll have minutes to react to a failing battery. If running the battery on its pulse range, you'll have only seconds.
 

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Just wondering but y is it to low I spoke to someone and they said it pulses at 60 or so and it doesn't get to hot in my hands

Because the battery has an actual 20 amp continuous discharge rating, confirmed by reliable independent testing.
A link to this info was supplied in the first response to your thread.

Sub ohming safely means leaving headroom / a safety cushion of x/% below the CDR of the battery used.
The tube and or battery shouldn't get hot, warm after extended use yes, but not hot.
Not too hot in your hand is too hot. 4.2v / .2 = 21a & 88.2w, exceeding the cdr of the battery, not to mention no safety cushion.

When using a mechanical it is important to become very familiar with all aspects of battery safety.
There are many fakes, mislabeled, re wrapped lesser quality batteries and shady business that advertise misleading/false ratings.
Buy batteries from reputable vendors only.
 

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I'd like to chime in here and say that efest has had a pretty bad rap with a lot of vapers, despite trying to market to said vapers, particularly sub-ohming cloudchasers. the purple efest battery, as stated above, is actually a panasonic 20-amp battery with a pulse rating of 35 amps. efest also "makes" another battery, which is in fact a repackaged sony vtc4, rated at 30A continuous with a 60-amp pulse rating, at which point, may as well buy the sony rather than the repackaged and more expensive sony. MNKE's are overrated, but they also make a 30A continuous draw battery. I regularly vape at 0.15 to 0.10 ohms, but that's with a diy mechanical box mod and 3 vtc4's wired in parallel rather than series, but this is a completely different situation, because I would have a theoretical safe discharge limit of 90A. And in all honesty, a build at 0.5ohms may make bigger clouds than a build at 0.2 ohms. At that point, it's all about managing airflow *cough CCI cough* and not just sheer quantity of airflow, as well as a good inhale/exhale technique.

Vape safe buddy, don't go building pipe bombs like the guy at vapecon with a mutant clone did.
 
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Vape safe buddy, don't go building pipe bombs like the guy at vapecon with a mutant clone did.

There was a vape blast at Vape Blast

What's left of the mod and battery that exploded at Vape Blast.

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