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Toxic chemicals are not age specific. If you look at medical research being published by Doctors with conflicting interest you'll find the truth.

Check out this thread: Seriously bummed..

And some of the attachments I left behind, I think it may be enlighting.

American Cancer Society advises the use of electronic cigarettes

E-cigarettes less harmful than smoking, says American Cancer Society

American Cancer Society Position Statement on Electronic Cigarettes



Farsalinos who has been conducting laboratory and clinical research as lead researcher on e-cigarettes since 2011, posted a response on his facebook page. “For those asking questions about the latest study on metal emissions from e-cigarettes, here is my comment: The “significant amount” of metals the authors reported they found were measured in ug/kg. In fact they are so low that for some cases (chromium and lead) I calculated that you need to vape more than 100 ml per day in order to exceed the FDA limits for daily intake from inhalational medications.” “The “significant amount” of metals the authors reported they found were measured in ug/kg. In fact they are so low that for some cases (chromium and lead) I calculated that you need to vape more than 100 ml per day in order to exceed the FDA limits for daily intake from inhalational medications.”Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos, Research Fellow, Onassis Cardiac Surgery Center, Athens Farsalinos pointed out that unfortunately this is once again a case of misinterpreted data and findings that are taken out of context. “The authors once again confuse themselves and everyone else by using environmental safety limits related to exposure with every single breath, and apply them to vaping. However, humans take more than 17,000 (thousand) breaths per day but only 400-600 puffs per day from an e-cigarette.”

Konstantinos Farsalinos, M.D.
Onassis Cardiac Surgery Center, Greece
University of Patras, Greece
National School of Public Health, Greece

Knowledge is power and there is valid medical proof that BT and Pharma are pushing the narrative on this type of information. They can't control vaping and the financial losses could be severe.
 

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I made a post a bit ago in the "Seriously bummed.." thread, page 4 about this same study. You may want to check it out.

IMHO, it's a flawed study based on opinions of "doctors" involved with tobacco cessation devices and medications. And since these "toxic chemicals" were found in urine and saliva samples, I'm not too concerned with their presence in my juice.
 

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What I am learning is that anything labeled “study” that has anything to do with food, “supplements”, tobacco products, or basically anything you put in your body who’s manufacture is a major commercial enterprise, is almost by definition highly suspect. This has to do with the minimal requirements on who can performthem and what they consist of combined with the huge amounts of money pressure
 

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...saying they did "medical research" that e-cigarettes have certain toxic chemicals, especially in teens.


You have to remember that teens are in and of themselves toxic. Did you ever smell a sweaty one? Seriously, put enough of them in the room and you can do away with lethal injection because the stink will kill the death row inmate. My son and his buddies were wrestlers. I had to order an elephant hose from a circus supply store to hose them down before letting them in the house. Where ever we found a mouse hole, we used his shirts to clog the hole and kill the mice. Unfortunately it started to disintegrate all the wood around it. So giving toxins teenagers is really just like fighting fire with fire.
 

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LOL, I made of it what I made of it in the other thread. I hate it. The study sucks.

@HauntedMyst , you can take the WORST study, and make it amusing. :lol: Thank you.

Any chance of a hard hitting interview with Glantz? I think if anyone could throw him off his game, you might. LOL. I'm willing to "reach out" to Glantz, if you are willing to do it.

If not... I might reach out... in a bit of a stranglehold.

Glantz, that was jest. You should check it out sometime.:p

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Fox News is not the network it used to be. They have firmly entrenched themselves in the sensationalist news game imo. Shame really, I used to respect them back in the early days. Vaping is probably the least "toxic" thing teens experiment with.
 

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I'm wondering how they can trust the 67 teens who supposedly just vaped. They probably smoked too and that's why they found those toxins. You can't really trust a kid addicted to nicotine and keep them off cigarettes. The teens who vaped only weren't kept in a lockdown situation so who knows what they did in there free time. This article doesn't explain how the doctors interacted with the kids throughout the study. They probably chose to use kids purposely as a setup. Teens shouldn't have different results than young adults or adults.
 

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Fox News is not the network it used to be. They have firmly entrenched themselves in the sensationalist news game imo. Shame really, I used to respect them back in the early days. Vaping is probably the least "toxic" thing teens experiment with.

After seeing the report on my local station and further checking, this story is front and center on all the networks! It's no longer the news, but today's editorials!
 

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Well as previously pointed out. Toxins are not age specific. So the whole thing is baloney. No need to figure out if they smoked or didn't smoke
No, they're not. However, toxins can be more harmful to a child who is still growing.
That being said, I think the "study" is mostly like B.S. (or more accurately put, mostly likely highly flawed and is just another scare tactic for all the obvious reasons previously stated). This is the one that was floating around on FB that a friend of mine shared. I tried informing the people, but they were intent on being completely freaked out about it.
 

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If you spend your entire life freaking out over the next big scare.....whatever it is. You will never relax and enjoy life. Not saying do stupid things but face it there are toxins everywhere.

I would be more worried about plastic leaching into ejuice than the ejuice itself. but then I don't worry about that either
 
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