So currently i have the ego C-twist and I bought it for $50 (1 battery, 1 charger) and I feel like i've been jipped cause I found much better deals online. I was interested in buying an APV (the huge vapes where you push the buttom to vape) and I was wondering which one to buy or if I should make my own. I don't have much money so the cheapest one should suffice. thanks.
What vape should I upgrade to?
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You're talking about a mechanical mod I assume. You should probably step up to something regulated until you completely understand mechanical mods. There are a lot of dangers to using them if you're not familiar with building coils, and have a good understanding of batteries. I would suggest something like a vamo v5, or an mvp2. They are great devices and offer quite a bit of adjustment, but still have great safety features.
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What they said ^^^. With mechanical mods, you can get huge vapor but there is a lot of safety you have to concern yourself with too. If you have to have one, then go to myfreedomsmokes dot com and click on the mechanical mod section. You can get a nice mechanical mod, RDA, batteries, and a charger for about $75.00. Please do your research though.
A beginner's good upgrade from the twist would be the innokin itaste MVP.
http://www.vapingme.com/innokin-itaste-mvp-2-0/
It looks like a big box, but is actually about the size of a business card with the thickness of a pack of smokes. Simple, good performance and you can use any tank with an ego or 510 connection.
That site stocks every Tuesday at 3:00 pm Central, use coupon code ECF for 10% off and you also get free shipping. $36 out the door and quick shipping is the best deal I've seen that you can get without waiting for the slow boat from China.
Another popular vendor has it for $40:
http://101vape.com/vvvw/148-innokin-itaste-mvp-v20.html
There are other options, but this is the one I'd recommend for simplicity, price and performance.
http://www.vapingme.com/innokin-itaste-mvp-2-0/
It looks like a big box, but is actually about the size of a business card with the thickness of a pack of smokes. Simple, good performance and you can use any tank with an ego or 510 connection.
That site stocks every Tuesday at 3:00 pm Central, use coupon code ECF for 10% off and you also get free shipping. $36 out the door and quick shipping is the best deal I've seen that you can get without waiting for the slow boat from China.
Another popular vendor has it for $40:
http://101vape.com/vvvw/148-innokin-itaste-mvp-v20.html
There are other options, but this is the one I'd recommend for simplicity, price and performance.
Yes to above suggestions. MVP 2 is a great device with a battery that lasts and lasts. It can even be used to charge your cell phone if needed. The battery isn't replaceable so when it does finally die, it's just dead, but the battery takes enough charges to last a long time and the price is low enough enough to make it worthwhile.
The Vamo is the cylindrical shape if you prefer that and it does have replaceable batteries. It probably won't last forever, and there have been reports of the firing button failing early for some. But there are many others that have never had a problem. Again the price is low enough to make it an attractive choice for a first mod.
Both models are popular enough that most B&M's stock them so if you have ready access to a local store go check them out, but definitely do some research for online pricing first and resist buying at a B&M unless their pricing includes only a reasonable markup.
The Vamo is the cylindrical shape if you prefer that and it does have replaceable batteries. It probably won't last forever, and there have been reports of the firing button failing early for some. But there are many others that have never had a problem. Again the price is low enough to make it an attractive choice for a first mod.
Both models are popular enough that most B&M's stock them so if you have ready access to a local store go check them out, but definitely do some research for online pricing first and resist buying at a B&M unless their pricing includes only a reasonable markup.
Some good advice in this here thread. A mechanical mod can be a great upgrade for someone who isn't interested in cloud chasing, and doesn't want anything but a more reliable device that's not disposable, but if you are really interested in getting in to "advanced vaping" a regulated device is a whole lot safer to learn on.
I was looking for something more like this
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...a-e-liquids-drip-tips-more-cronus-mod-vho.jpg
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...a-e-liquids-drip-tips-more-cronus-mod-vho.jpg
That's a mech mod. If you really want one like that, by all means it's your money, buy one. Just make sure you do your research on mechs before you really get into using it.
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what do u mean by regulated device?
What are some dangers/challenges that a beginner may face when using a mech mod?
Looks cool...not as simple as it looks. You need to buy batteries,a charger, ohm meter..... or you could get an MVP as suggested. That would be my recommendation. Plenty of folks here that can give you advice on a mech mod. I'm thinkin an MVP would be a good choice.
A regulated device is something like a Provari, zmax, vamo, or any of the iTaste devices(I'd pick one with a removable battery over the MVP, but that's just my preference). They have safety features that make sure you can't do anything really bad to yourself, because the voltage flow to the atomizer is controlled by a circuit board instead of just discharging straight from a battery in to it like a mechanical.
The dangers a beginner faces with a mechanical is that they don't know the dangers. For instance, you NEED to know about coil safety, Ohm's and Watt's law, battery safety, etc. Using prebuilt heads on a mechanical means you are trusting some mass production factory not to make a single mistake with a coil that will turn your mechanical from a vaping device into a red hot, nauxeous gas spewing pile of fun.
If you aren't going to learn all that, you need to learn about inline fuses or a regulating board like the kick and USE them, every time.
Don't get me wrong, I love mechanicals, and some people with no idea what they are doing run around with one and never have a problem, but that doesn't mean something terrible can't happen.
Something that allows you to control the power output (voltage/watts) as well as protects itself and you from overburdening the battery. Which can kill your mod or seriously hurt you if you don't understand battery safety and don't use something with protection.
Blowing half your face off.
Lots of people use mech mods safely... but it's not advised for beginners (or anyone) who hasn't mastered rebuilding, Ohm's Law and battery safety. The batteries are powerful, not protected and can hurt you if abused. They don't care if it's intentional or not. You're getting good advice to start with a regulated device and give yourself time to learn... for your own safety.
so how much do regulated mods cost with the tank and do they produce less vape/flavor compared to mech mods?
I have a few regulated mods. I'm currently using a vamo v5 with a kayfun lite +. The vamo for instance, will take any 510 or ego threaded tanks. I use a protank 2 and an evod on this as well. All take pre made coils (except for the KFL+) which can help you easily change the coil when burned or if you change juices. They come in pre made resistances and can produce outstanding vapor and flavor when you adjust the device correctly. You can get a vamo v5 kit for around $50 (give or take a few dollars) that comes with batteries, and a charger. Mine came with 2 ce4 disposable clearos. There are dozens of great tanks you can buy to top the device for under $20.
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There can only be one Your Online Electronic Cigarette Store. Best mod's I have ever used for the functionality and ease of maintenance.
The only time mechanicals put out more is when you are getting in to the even more dangerous sub ohm builds, but it's really your money and your decision.
cheapest decent regulated variable wattage device(that isn't disposable):
KSD - The Original Vamo
cheapest price I've found on an aerotank mega:
http://www.vaporbeast.com/kanger-me...8ml.html?acc=c4ca4238a0b923820dcc509a6f75849b
Reliable, won't sell you fake batteries, supplier:
AW IMR 18650 3.7v 2000mAh - RTD vapor
Charger from wherever, but this isn't bad:
http://www.rtdvapor.com/nitecore-intellicharger-i2/
ChurchMouse, thanks for the post! I've been looking at the MVP 2 for a while. I've been exclusively using 2 Vamo v5's for about the last 8 months. One, the button still works but pretty much has no tactile feedback, completely mush. The other is on it's way to mushville. Both, from day 1 had completely useless 510 threads and the ego threading wasn't much better and gets worse every day.
I've been looking at the MVP2 for a while now. I'm not that big a fan of "box mods" but it's a rock solid mod and it almost can't be beat for the price. It was $35.99 shipped to me and being less than 6hrs away i'm confident i'll have it by this Friday.
Like other I feel the Itaste MVP V2 is the way to go. You can use all the tanks you were using on your ego batteries with this device. I use mine everytime I leave the house and the 2600 MAH battery is good for days! You can get them on Ebay for under $40.
I agree with those who said do your research before you decide to go with a mechanical mod. I did a ton of research and learning about ohms, resistances, coils, etc. plus, if you have a local B&M that offers coil building sessions like mine, I'd highly suggest you try to go to one. It's interesting and you can ask questions face to face with someone who knows what they're doing. The last thing you want is having a battery explode on you. Good luck!
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