What you don't want to read on an airplane!

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That absolutly right,vaping is no cigarett and there is no technical reason to call it so ,only commercial.
The problem begin when the industries of the PV call it e cigaret to atampt the smoker to do
The first step to quit smoking. But it is not a cigaret, and there is a need to adress that to as
Many pepole as can by the media. All kinds of media. You things like that all over becose when pepole
Dont understand there are thos who take advantage on that.
 

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I think I can answer your questions regarding vaping on-board. As you may or may not know I'm an airline captain for a major airline that in fact does not allow vaping. I had the chance to discuss the matter with our higher management and the problem is that vaping seems very "similar" to smoking. Although they are fully aware that there aren't the associated dangers to vaping as smoking (lighters, flammable substances and second hand smoke harm) they are worried that some people will confuse vapor to smoke and instinctively light up a cigarette thinking that some other passengers are in fact smoking. Also remember that there are several countries which have banned the sale of e-cigs which doesn't help the argument. The truth of the matter is that some e-cigs are very similar to analogs but after discussing the matter I believe that in future when vaping becomes more recognized eventually it will be acceptable by more Airlines.
The good thing is that there are several Airlines that permit vaping so hopefully those will lead the way to others to permit e-cig usage in future. Vapor from an e-cig by the way doesn't even set off a smoke detector on-board because they are not designed to detect vapor.
 

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I thought that would be the reason Captain but I could add one more. A battery is always a battery if you know what I mean

That is true but remember that nowadays almost everyone carries Li-Po/Li-ion batteries in their mobile phones, laptops, ipads etc so banning e-cigs for that reason really doesn't make sence. In fact my airline gives each and every pilot a laptop we have to carry with us.
 

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I think I can answer your questions regarding vaping on-board. As you may or may not know I'm an airline captain for a major airline that in fact does not allow vaping. I had the chance to discuss the matter with our higher management and the problem is that vaping seems very "similar" to smoking. Although they are fully aware that there aren't the associated dangers to vaping as smoking (lighters, flammable substances and second hand smoke harm) they are worried that some people will confuse vapor to smoke and instinctively light up a cigarette thinking that some other passengers are in fact smoking. Also remember that there are several countries which have banned the sale of e-cigs which doesn't help the argument. The truth of the matter is that some e-cigs are very similar to analogs but after discussing the matter I believe that in future when vaping becomes more recognized eventually it will be acceptable by more Airlines.
The good thing is that there are several Airlines that permit vaping so hopefully those will lead the way to others to permit e-cig usage in future. Vapor from an e-cig by the way doesn't even set off a smoke detector on-board because they are not designed to detect vapor.


Captain I understand what you are saying 100%. My comment was targeted towards the wording. Sometimes I sneak vapes in airlines from a disposable. I dont carry mods on airplanes. But the problem with the wording is that they said that smoking is prohibited including e-cigarettes, which gives the impression that e-cigarettes = smoking to the people who don't know.
 

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I certainly don't equate vaping to smoking, but, there is second hand vapor right? And I would imagine some folks might mind inhaling it, even if it only contains nicotine.

Yap.
But same can be said about some fox After Shaves,
Or.. Some heavy Smell Face Creams.:lol:
Just a joke no ofence.
Is there enough Nicotin left on the exhale to cos' alarm??
 

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One day Ι've been caught vaping secretly and after a short discussion with the airhostess, she told me: "Do you have nicotine in your liquid?" I said "no" and she replayed "ok.. but I don't know that "
I ended the discussion by turning my face towards window :mad:
From now and then I'll be most time in the toilet than my seat!!! :laugh:
 

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you are right Capt. Of course those batteries are inside the devices and we dont play a lot with them, we dont make them chip etc. But you are right for sure
That is true but remember that nowadays almost everyone carries Li-Po/Li-ion batteries in their mobile phones, laptops, ipads etc so banning e-cigs for that reason really doesn't make sence. In fact my airline gives each and every pilot a laptop we have to carry with us.
 

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One day Ι've been caught vaping secretly and after a short discussion with the airhostess, she told me: "Do you have nicotine in your liquid?" I said "no" and she replayed "ok.. but I don't know that "
I ended the discussion by turning my face towards window :mad:
From now and then I'll be most time in the toilet than my seat!!! :laugh:

Next time you travel let me know, maybe we can have a vape meet in the toilet. Wait ... Vaping wouln't be the problem there :D

Ok next vape meet is in the captain's cabin, Captain Steve of course!
 

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I don't understand how one airline could be OK with vaping, and another is not. Don't they all have to comply with some international standards? I recall RyanAir, from Ireland I think, permitting ecigs, but that was several years ago.

Ha, international standards for vaping in airplanes? They still don't know if they want to ban it, tax it, destroy it, sell it in pharmacies or in kiosks, declare it as work of the devil and punishable by stones throwing .... man ecigs are the puzzle of the century...
 

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That pretty much sums it up. The International Standard is that there is no standard as far as e-cigs. Each Airline is free to either allow them or not. There is a European and US and Australian airspace directive that forbids smoking on any aircraft however vaping is not classified as smoking so EU, US and AUS law does not as such forbid the use of e-cigs on aircraft. Again please remember that as far as the world is concerned vaping is a new thing so eventually things will change, lets just hope they changes in favor of us vapers. You as the paying public can pressure your preferred Airlines to change their policies in regard to vaping. Next time you want to book a ticket ask the ticketing staff "Is your Airline e-cig friendly?" if they say no then just say that you'll consider booking with another Airline.
 

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That pretty much sums it up. The International Standard is that there is no standard as far as e-cigs. Each Airline is free to either allow them or not. There is a European and US and Australian airspace directive that forbids smoking on any aircraft however vaping is not classified as smoking so EU, US and AUS law does not as such forbid the use of e-cigs on aircraft. Again please remember that as far as the world is concerned vaping is a new thing so eventually things will change, lets just hope they changes in favor of us vapers. You as the paying public can pressure your preferred Airlines to change their policies in regard to vaping. Next time you want to book a ticket ask the ticketing staff "Is your Airline e-cig friendly?" if they say no then just say that you'll consider booking with another Airline.

Can the pilot still smoke in the cockpit?

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