What's a good intermediate device?

[ChelsB]

Currently using the ego aio. I just received the smok M80 plus and I think it's too advanced for me. What's a good intermediate level device?


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[Eskie]

What feels too advanced about it? The mod itself is much like others on the market, and other than being able to adjust the power, doesn't function all that differently than your ego aio. The mod is basically a big battery. You can mount almost any tank you like on top to vape with. The only issue you really have to worry about is assuring you have a tank and coil of a proper type to mount. Did you get a tank as well?

Other solutions that might work would be something like another AIO like the iJust, the new Smok Brit one, Kanger evod, or Innokin Endura. Thing is, they are all quite similar to the AIO, and don't leave you a lot of growth room. The mod you have can handle all sorts of tanks, giving you more options, but can also work fine if you only want one or two types of tanks and simply leave the power control alone once you found a setting you like.

 

[BreSha6869]

I have more than a few mods with lots of bells and whistles I never use. Why not just set the wattage to what you like best then set it and forget it?

 

[ChelsB]

I have more than a few mods with lots of bells and whistles I never use. Why not just set the wattage to what you like best then set it and forget it?

I guess I just haven't found that sweet spot for a setting, it's either not enough or burning coils.


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[ChelsB]

What feels too advanced about it? The mod itself is much like others on the market, and other than being able to adjust the power, doesn't function all that differently than your ego aio. The mod is basically a big battery. You can mount almost any tank you like on top to vape with. The only issue you really have to worry about is assuring you have a tank and coil of a proper type to mount. Did you get a tank as well?

Other solutions that might work would be something like another AIO like the iJust, the new Smok Brit one, Kanger evod, or Innokin Endura. Thing is, they are all quite similar to the AIO, and don't leave you a lot of growth room. The mod you have can handle all sorts of tanks, giving you more options, but can also work fine if you only want one or two types of tanks and simply leave the power control alone once you found a setting you like.

I have the Smok TCT tank to go with it. I just can't seem to get it to work well. Or maybe the reviews that I read about it were paid reviews and it's not really that great of a tank?


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[Eskie]

Well the TCT tank as best I can tell only comes with a temp control Ni coil and is meant to be used only in temp control mode. If you use that coil in plain power/wattage mode, it's not a good thing to do. That may be why you're burning coils, as one of the things temp control is supposed to do is avoid that very thing.

Are you using it in temp control mode, or in power mode (watts displayed or temperature displayed on the mod's screen)?

 

[ChelsB]

Well the TCT tank as best I can tell only comes with a temp control Ni coil and is meant to be used only in temp control mode. If you use that coil in plain power/wattage mode, it's not a good thing to do. That may be why you're burning coils, as one of the things temp control is supposed to do is avoid that very thing.

Are you using it in temp control mode, or in power mode (watts displayed or temperature displayed on the mod's screen)?

I had adjusted the temp but when I push the fire button it displays watts. This is why I was thinking I am just not experienced enough for this device. I was so excited to get it as an early Christmas present. But I've been pretty disappointed with how it's working.
I know that there is a whole other world out there for vaping (beyond ego aio and pen style) and was just trying to get a taste of that world with this device, but have been disappointed and am just back to using the ego aio.
I also have a kayfun v5, but those coils keep breaking.
Do you think I'm out of my league?


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[Shawn Hoefer]

I had adjusted the temp but when I push the fire button it displays watts. This is why I was thinking I am just not experienced enough for this device. I was so excited to get it as an early Christmas present. But I've been pretty disappointed with how it's working.
I know that there is a whole other world out there for vaping (beyond ego aio and pen style) and was just trying to get a taste of that world with this device, but have been disappointed and am just back to using the ego aio.
I also have a kayfun v5, but those coils keep breaking.
Do you think I'm out of my league?


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You're not out of your league, but a little patience goes a long ways...

What are the settings on your mod at present, and what resistance is displayed when the TCT tank is attached?

Also, what wire are you using to build your Kayfun?

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[Eskie]

I had adjusted the temp but when I push the fire button it displays watts. This is why I was thinking I am just not experienced enough for this device. I was so excited to get it as an early Christmas present. But I've been pretty disappointed with how it's working.
I know that there is a whole other world out there for vaping (beyond ego aio and pen style) and was just trying to get a taste of that world with this device, but have been disappointed and am just back to using the ego aio.
I also have a kayfun v5, but those coils keep breaking.
Do you think I'm out of my league?


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No, not out of your league, just perhaps with the wrong tank. Temp control is not difficult to set up, but does require reviewing the manual on how exactly to make it work on your particular mod, and assuring you pick the right type of coil/wire (temp control is typically done with 3 types Ni, which you have, Ti, and SS). Pick the wrong type of metal and the mod won't provide the right power for the coil/metal type.

I am not at all familiar with that tank, other than knowing that's the only kind of coil it takes. Most other tanks offer more choices of coils so you can get one to fit you best. The KF5 tank is a very good tank, liked by many here, but required you to build the coil, not some terribly difficult, but perhaps a bit more involved, especially in the beginning. I'm sure you can collect lots of ideas on tanks that would fit you better with a bit more info. Are you looking for a lower power, good flavor type of vape, or producing lots of clouds with a higher power setup? What types of vape juices do you like? Which AIO are you currently using, and what do you like and dislike about it? Stuff like that is helpful to know.

 

[I'mnotZak]

No, it's not out of your league, it's all just new! Take the time to watch a few videos on the tank and the mod. As mentioned by @Eskie, the tank only comes with nickel coils and is meant to be used in temp control mode only. Below is a link to a video on the TCT tank. Pay close attention to airflow options and also to priming the coil. This is just one video that I found and i'm sure there are many others that will help you gain confidence with your early present.

Temperature Controlled Smok TCT Tank

I would also suggest a google search for the Smok M80 plus mod to review setting the device in temp control mode. Once you get used to the few settings, prime the coil correctly, and find the correct airflow setting that meet your requirements, I am sure you will be more than happy! Good luck!

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Also, the TCT tank can use VCT non-TC coils...

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[sofarsogood]

Currently using the ego aio. I just received the Smok M80 plus and I think it's too advanced for me. What's a good intermediate level device?


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You need to say more about how you were vaping before. The first thing you'd like to do is get it to do something close to what the previous device was giving you then see where to go from there.

If the new device isn't doing what you want keep using the previous one until things get figured out. The atomizer needs to be the right one. The mod you have will power it correctly unless you need more than 80 watts and may be all you need is 8 watts.

 

[ChelsB]

No, not out of your league, just perhaps with the wrong tank. Temp control is not difficult to set up, but does require reviewing the manual on how exactly to make it work on your particular mod, and assuring you pick the right type of coil/wire (temp control is typically done with 3 types Ni, which you have, Ti, and SS). Pick the wrong type of metal and the mod won't provide the right power for the coil/metal type.

I am not at all familiar with that tank, other than knowing that's the only kind of coil it takes. Most other tanks offer more choices of coils so you can get one to fit you best. The KF5 tank is a very good tank, liked by many here, but required you to build the coil, not some terribly difficult, but perhaps a bit more involved, especially in the beginning. I'm sure you can collect lots of ideas on tanks that would fit you better with a bit more info. Are you looking for a lower power, good flavor type of vape, or producing lots of clouds with a higher power setup? What types of vape juices do you like? Which AIO are you currently using, and what do you like and dislike about it? Stuff like that is helpful to know.

I like the aio for how it gives you a hit right away, unlike the pen devices where u have to really suck hard to get a good hit. I like having a tank of liquid and not having to use those awful cartridges filled with cotton! I'm using the ego aio.
I only vape fruits and menthol (I was a mental smoker before)


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[ChelsB]

You need to say more about how you were vaping before. The first thing you'd like to do is get it to do something close to what the previous device was giving you then see where to go from there.

If the new device isn't doing what you want keep using the previous one until things get figured out. The atomizer needs to be the right one. The mod you have will power it correctly unless you need more than 80 watts and may be all you need is 8 watts.

Yes, I can't imagine needing or wanting to vape at 80w!


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[Eskie]

I like the aio for how it gives you a hit right away, unlike the pen devices where u have to really suck hard to get a good hit. I like having a tank of liquid and not having to use those awful cartridges filled with cotton!

Ah, what cartridges filled with cotton? Because all tanks use some sort of coil that's wicked with cotton or maybe rayon if you're into building yourself. Or do you mean like those prefilled cartridges you'd suck on attached to a cigalike?

 

[ChelsB]

Ah, what cartridges filled with cotton? Because all tanks use some sort of coil that's wicked with cotton or maybe rayon if you're into building yourself. Or do you mean like those prefilled cartridges you'd suck on attached to a cigalike?

I know there's cotton in all of the tanks, [emoji4]I meant the ones u used to screw into a pen style device and saturated with juice


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[Eskie]

I know there's cotton in all of the tanks, [emoji4]I meant the ones u used to screw into a pen style device and saturated with juice


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OK, just being sure.

No, you don't want to go back to those. I do not have your setup, but can give you generic ideas. If your coil is pretty new and primed, you can keep trying to work with it. If it's burnt or nasty place a new one. As always, prime first before inserting the coil.

Get your little manual out to help you on the mod. First make sure, assuming you're using the Ni coil that you select Temp Control, type of coil Ni (like I said, generic stuff). They will usually allow you to select 2 settings a wattage setting and the temperature you want. The wattage setting is simply a limit of how much power the mod should supply to get the coil to the selected temperature. It's a good idea to keep this modest, maybe 30W. Next is temp. Sorry I'm a F person, so convert to C as needed. Start off ~350F (or C equivalent). Work your way 10 or 20F at a time until you like the flavor and cloud. Done.

Extra bonus you don't need to worry about right now is preheat. Handy if you build big complex coils that take a long time to get up to temp so you can supply much higher power in the first second to rapidly get to the temp you want. On something like your coil, or even a simple plain home made coil, it's probably not needed to you can just ignore that for now.

There are LOTS more fun stuff you can do with temp control as you go along, but you really don't have to go past the above to get a decent vape. If you can't get these coils to give you a decent vape, get a non-TC version as Shawn has pointed out is available. Then you will go to power, or wattage mode, and simply enter your preferred power setting and vape away. Good luck!

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Also note that the XPRO M80 Plus was never very good at temp control...

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[sketchness]

The kayfuns are not the easiest to start with lots of pieces and limited build space. Just don't get discouraged. Keep trying. It took me about 6 weeks to finally get dual coils working in an rda the way I wanted. Every night I would come home and build. Finally I figured out what works for me. I had to take a few burnt hits before I could really master coil building.

I don't build anything really intricate. Just simple 26 gauge dual coils. Many of the complex builds you hear about are people simply winding some wire they bought. There are some who build their own Claptons or some other truly amazing stuff. But that is the exception.

I personally don't like the taste of TC wire, I have tried stainless and nickel. I have some titanium that I haven't tried yet.

I hope you continue to try, you will figure it out. YouTube is your friend.

 

[KenD]

Also note that the XPRO M80 Plus was never very good at temp control...

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If I remember correctly the M80 only has pseudo-tc. It looks like and claims that it's doing tc but it's really not, at all.

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