What's Better

[beckdg]

Basically what I'm saying is conjecture imagination and emotion shouldn't be the basis of your argument. And you shouldn't attack somebody based on your argument based off of those principles.

Tell you what I'll say it for you because I agree with you.

We tend here not to support efest because they lie about their specs on their batteries.

There are plenty of other battery retailers that do the same thing.

Considering the possible dangers of these actions and the Chokehold that vaping is in legislatively that is highly against most of our ethics and our beliefs.

But of course ethics are an individual decision.

But I'm not going to miseducate people to get my point across either.

Tapatyped

 

[r055co]

Jeeze, man.

Pay attention.

I posted a video of that very cell being dead shorted.

If you're going to quote mooch, do yourself a favor and find what he said in an interview about 10 amp batteries.

Because he said...
And the video illustrated...
And I reiterated...

That that 10 amp panasonic cell efest uses (the actual one in the video posted) WILL NOT put out 30 amps and blow.

Period.

I don't and won't buy efest batteries either.

I don't agree with supporting them considering their ethics either.

But the question isn't of Ethics or batteries.

The question is about Chargers and the Luc Chargers are better than anything supplied by nitecore.

This can be confirmed by the guys who actually test Chargers specifically. Key word chargers.

Talk about a facepalm...

Tapatyped

As pointed out, why would anyone trust a malicious company who intentionally lies about the capabilities of their products?

Talk about a facepalm!

 

[beckdg]

As pointed out, why would anyone trust a malicious company who intentionally lies about the capabilities of their products?

Talke about a facepalm!

Dunno

I don't.

When I bought my luc I hadn't given it much thought.

But INDEPENDENT REVIEWERS THAT ARE TRUSTED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES SUCH AS FLASHLIGHT ENTHUSIAST FORUMS FOUND THE LUC TO BE A GOOD PRODUCT.

***Where to be honest, there's a massive wealth of knowledge vapor sites don't share.***

The OP DID NOT ASK you who to trust.

The OP asked about good products.

The luc is better than anything nitecore offers.

But efest is dishonest with their batteries in a possibly dangerous way.

The information is there.

It's not your choice to make decisions for the OP or myself.

We're all adults here whether some might think they need to force choices on others based on their own morals or not.

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

I would reccomand any of the XTAR chargers over the efest ones

Me too.

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

As pointed out, why would anyone trust a malicious company who intentionally lies about the capabilities of their products?

Talk about a facepalm!

BTW, this is twisting my words and is against terms of service here.

Tapatyped

 

[r055co]

Dunno

I don't.

When I bought my luc I hadn't given it much thought.

But INDEPENDENT REVIEWERS THAT ARE TRUSTED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES SUCH AS FLASHLIGHT ENTHUSIAST FORUMS FOUND THE LUC TO BE A GOOD PRODUCT.

***Where to be honest, there's a massive wealth of knowledge vapor sites don't share.***

The OP DID NOT ASK you who to trust.

The OP asked about good products.

The luc is better than anything nitecore offers.

But efest is dishonest with their batteries in a possibly dangerous way.

The information is there.

It's not your choice to make decisions for the OP or myself.

We're all adults here whether some might think they need to force choices on others based on their own morals or not.

Tapatyped

Aaah Good products on a large level based on trust

BTW, this is twisting my words and is against terms of service here.

Tapatyped

Give me a break

 

[beckdg]

Aaah Good products on a large level based on trust

Give me a break

And you call this blatant misdirection trustworthy? ...

Yep, never trust a company who re-wraps 10a batteries and labels them as 35a. That is unless you don't care about burning your house down

How are you going to burn your house down with a perfectly good charger?

Because they lie about their batteries?

For which the example you give is also misdirection...

I clarified that with an example.

You got something legitimate besides your feelings?

Tapatyped

 

[r055co]

And you call this blatant misdirection trustworthy? ...





How are you going to burn your house down with a perfectly good charger?

Because they lie about their batteries?

For which the example you give is also misdirection...

I clarified that with an example.

You got something legitimate besides your feelings?

Tapatyped

Not trusting eFest is not based on feeling nor is it misdirection, it's based on facts. They maliciously lie about their products, thus cannot be trusted.

 

[beckdg]

Not trusting eFest is not based on feeling nor is it misdirection, it's based on facts. They maliciously lie about their products, thus cannot be trusted.

That has nothing to do with their luc chargers. Period.

And injecting that into a charger thread for more than information purposes is misdirection. Period.

And refusing to see that I agree that we shouldn't support efest despite posting the truth about their charger ... so that you can hammer your argument ...

That's nothing but FEELINGS getting in the way of rational thought.

Tapatyped

 

[r055co]

That has nothing to do with their luc chargers. Period.

And injecting that into a charger thread for more than information purposes is misdirection. Period.

Tapatyped

Well if you believe that than be my guest and report my posts.
Anyone with any common sense what so ever knows that it is relevant.

 

[beckdg]

Well if you believe that than be my guest and report my posts.
Anyone with any common sense what so ever knows that it is relevant.

And if common sense were shared, you'd see I acknowledged it's relevancy.

I'm an adult. I don't have to tell mommy.

You didn't hurt my feelings.

But we don't have to embellish. We can just state facts without glorifying or vilifying beyond necessity.

Tapatyped

 

[r055co]

And if common sense were shared, you'd see I acknowledged it's relevancy.

I'm an adult. I don't have to tell mommy.

You didn't hurt my feelings.

But we don't have to embellish. We can just state facts without glorifying or vilifying beyond necessity.

Tapatyped

You said it was misdirection now it's relevant ............

What ever ...................

 

[beckdg]

You said it was misdirection now it's relevant ............

What ever ...................

Slick

Real slick

I've been very clear.

Here's the omitted part of that quote that acknowledges the relevancy since you can't see it...

And refusing to see that I agree that we shouldn't support efest despite posting the truth about their charger ... so that you can hammer your argument ...

That's nothing but FEELINGS getting in the way of rational thought.

Tapatyped

And you're choosing to twist that AGAIN.

We're done playing children's games here.

Tapatyped