Okay so right now I am vaping on an mvp 2.0 with a mini protank 3. It is nice and all but I am looking for something new. I see a lot of people saying you need rda or rbas. What is the point of those. I know what they are and all but why. I feel and rba is more useful cause dripping seems annoying. If that is the case is the kayfun lite a good place to start? Also for the mods. And mvp 2.0 probably wouldn't work once you get more advanced. I am just looking for some advice because seeing these $200+ rda/rba and mods are a bit overwhelming.
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Welcome and congrats and best wishes on your vaping journey. Actually, you DON'T need an RDA/Dripper and or a RBA/RTA. Why? Whatever works for YOU is all that ever matters. You no longer smoke cigs and that's the most important bottom line. No rush with new gear. Try and limit /cough the peer pressure and listen to your body. Sure, it's great to explore other vaping options as long as you understand the inherint pluses and minuses of each solution.
OK here we go and everyone has different experiences. Like most of my fellow "vets" we have a collection of RDAs and RBAs. I chase flavor and enjoy the convenience of a "tank like" system such as the KayFun. Fill it once with about 4+ ML of juice and I'm all set. Superior flavor by a long shot compared to a ProTank for me and not necessarily you. Also a more efficient delivery system so some folks have to lower their NIC level. With respect to the flavor improvement, in some juices it's not as obvious and in others like Ahlusion which uses a default mix best enjoyed in a dripper or RBA it's very noticeable. Factor in the recovery development of your taste buds which are still recovering in a new vaper and you may not notice any difference so why bother. Cost for the authentic KayFun around $100 and quality clones around $40. Requires you to learn how to build coils and wicking along with all the necessary tools of the trade. Some folks find it very easy to start building and others need some time to learn. This delivery device can be finicky and has very specific "good build techniques". If you have a good B&M in your neck of the woods they can also help you learn and in a lot of cases they also will "build" and "wick" your KayFun. I hope this has presented you with some of the pluses and minuses of a KF.
Drippers/RDAs also have a place in the Vaping journey. Costs for a dripper range from $15 to around $100. Some hold 2 Ml of juice or more. I also use drippers for some tasks. Quickly testing a new flavor. Testing my DIY efforts. Some "occasional" flavors which I enjoy. Flavor is subjectively about the same as a KayFun however since a KayFun is a vacuum like tank system it's inherently less prone to dry hits (with a proper build) and thus a more "consistent" vape when comparing it to a RDA. Easy peasy to dry burn and switch flavors. Fast as lightning and easy to install a new wick and or a full build. Sure, dripping can in fact be a PIA with 6 drops in some and for others they love the experience. Different solutions for our respective vaping journeys.
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With a rebuildable you can setup any ohms/resistance you want. You are not limited to only what is available in replaceable heads like with Protanks. You can choose which kind of wicking material you like best and there are a lot to choose from. The flavor, vapor and TH is much better IMO. They can be finicky though and if you don't have a lot of patience an RBA/RDA may not be for you.
There's no reason that your MVP wouldn't work with an RBA. It's the ohms you need to be careful of. I don't know what the lowest ohms is that an MVP can handle but that is something you'll need to know and will need a multimeter or ohm reader if you get into RBAs.
Protank is pretty good, let's call it a 7 on the flavor scale. If you bump up to a microcoil on a Kayfun or similar RTA for the tank feature, flavor will at least be a 9. Though rebuilding is cheaper and tastes better, it is not for everyone. I struggled for a long time, and while I had been close to figuring it out on my own, it took a trip to a couple local vape shops and seeing others do it before I had my AHA! moment.
Certainly what works best for you is obviously what is best for you, but being newer to the scene and not having experienced the difference, you need to make a decision based on actually trying it. I recommend calling some stores and seeing if they can help you and making the trek, even if a bit far, to try one out and/or learn to do it yourself. You will not be disappointed.
I used carto tanks for years and was happy. I tried rebuilding maybe two years ago and gave up on it. After a bunch of stores recently popped up in my area, I met people that knew their stuff and went from there. I could not be happier with my Kayfun. Many like to drip as it often offers the best flavor and juices are more easily switched, but I don't like doing the work when my Kayfun's flavor will be close.
My advice - meet someone who knows their stuff and do it. You will not be sorry!
Certainly what works best for you is obviously what is best for you, but being newer to the scene and not having experienced the difference, you need to make a decision based on actually trying it. I recommend calling some stores and seeing if they can help you and making the trek, even if a bit far, to try one out and/or learn to do it yourself. You will not be disappointed.
I used carto tanks for years and was happy. I tried rebuilding maybe two years ago and gave up on it. After a bunch of stores recently popped up in my area, I met people that knew their stuff and went from there. I could not be happier with my Kayfun. Many like to drip as it often offers the best flavor and juices are more easily switched, but I don't like doing the work when my Kayfun's flavor will be close.
My advice - meet someone who knows their stuff and do it. You will not be sorry!
They seem to have the rebuildable section covered, let me talk about devices.
While I'm not a connoisseur of mods, I do have a fair selection of the different types of mods. Included in that list is an MVP 2.0. I love the MVP, it's a great little device and the battery lasts forever. More than a day, which is more than I need. It's normally my around-the-house mod. I can rebuild the coils for my Protank Mini 3 and have a cheap device to burn through coils on....and not feel bad if I toss a coil aside that's not quite done.
The problem that I have with the MVP is that it's narrow. I put my mod in my pocket, and anything much wider than a protank mini tends to get stuck in my pocket. It doesn't sit right because it goes over the edge significantly. I'm not super picky that my device lines up 100% and is the exact diameter, but I'd like it to slide in and out of my pocket with relative ease. The MVP makes that difficult unless it has a mini tank on it. There are a few rebuildables that are narrow like that...but not many, and they hold significantly less liquid.
My favorite mod is my ProVari. Why? It's dead simple to use, it's relatively lightweight, it's a good diameter that it fits my kayfun/russian with a sleeve on it and doesn't get hooked in my pocket anywhere.
I do have a couple mech mods....and I don't care for them all that much. I like to be able to control the voltage/wattage so that my vape is consistent and not dependent upon the battery entirely. (Read up on voltage drop, if you're wondering)
Hope this helps!
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While I'm not a connoisseur of mods, I do have a fair selection of the different types of mods. Included in that list is an MVP 2.0. I love the MVP, it's a great little device and the battery lasts forever. More than a day, which is more than I need. It's normally my around-the-house mod. I can rebuild the coils for my Protank Mini 3 and have a cheap device to burn through coils on....and not feel bad if I toss a coil aside that's not quite done.
The problem that I have with the MVP is that it's narrow. I put my mod in my pocket, and anything much wider than a protank mini tends to get stuck in my pocket. It doesn't sit right because it goes over the edge significantly. I'm not super picky that my device lines up 100% and is the exact diameter, but I'd like it to slide in and out of my pocket with relative ease. The MVP makes that difficult unless it has a mini tank on it. There are a few rebuildables that are narrow like that...but not many, and they hold significantly less liquid.
My favorite mod is my ProVari. Why? It's dead simple to use, it's relatively lightweight, it's a good diameter that it fits my kayfun/russian with a sleeve on it and doesn't get hooked in my pocket anywhere.
I do have a couple mech mods....and I don't care for them all that much. I like to be able to control the voltage/wattage so that my vape is consistent and not dependent upon the battery entirely. (Read up on voltage drop, if you're wondering)
Hope this helps!
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I love my MVP2 and use it all the time with Kanger clearos (T3S, eVod, mini Aerotank). I also have a ProVari ($170) and a Sigelei Zmax ($40) and I use them with my ProTanks (with airflow control base added) and Aerotanks. Kanger coils are user friendly--they can be cleaned, dry burned and they last me for weeks. I'm a low wattage vaper and I like the taste and vapor production I get from those setups.
Having said that, I'm considering adding an RBA like Kayfun to my collection because of the possible FDA crackdown on vaping. Should that happen, God forbid, I want to be prepared. I already own 2 APVs with replaceable batteries and adding a couple of RBAs and some 10% nicotine base (in the freezer
) will allow me to vape for a long time no matter what the government does. They can't ban Kanthal wire and cotton balls. Wrt to prices, you don't have to spend $100-200 on an RBA if you don't want to. You can get a decent clone/copy (like Ehpro Kayfun Lite+ v2) for 30 bucks or so. You can practice on it and see if it's something you'd like. You'll also have to educate yourself--Ohm's Law, battery safety etc. Many people use RBAs on MPVs--just make sure to build your coils in the 1.3-1.8Ω range. A kayfun will look a bit top heavy on the MVP2, but it will work.
BTW, Innokin is going to introduce MVP3 around Christmas. Redesigned to handle higher wattages, but still with a proprietary battery.
Good luck!
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