Also, to get a cheap mech mod to start with an 18650 & an IGO-L or IGO-S look to spend ~$75-100 ; the cheapy thin metal ones from china are good starters, but very in-iffecient when it comes to proper insulation & electricity flow (lack of resistance)
What's the deal with mechanical mods?
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Yes mechanical mods require much knowledge, and much more hands on tinkering. It can be dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. Most people do not want all the trouble associated with rebuild-able drip atomizers. However, drip atty's produce outstanding flavor that can't be matched by a tank, clearomizer, and certainly not cartomizers. There are some good dual coil tanks out there that do produce a lot of vape such as the Kanger Protank 3, the iclear 30B and so on. Remember, two coils, twice the vape. Having said all that, I am an avid sub ohm vaper meaning that I love my mech mod and drip.
Good post.
Your first clue as to what's going on:
Your instincts are spot on to ask. There's lots of ways to get vapor. Some are even protected and adjustable. See the other posts.
There's a lot of vape shops pushing this stuff to newbies. Sad, IMHO.
Your first clue as to what's going on:
Your instincts are spot on to ask. There's lots of ways to get vapor. Some are even protected and adjustable. See the other posts.
There's a lot of vape shops pushing this stuff to newbies. Sad, IMHO.
So, the Kanger Protank 3 does not work on a Lavatube. The coils air inlet is too low on the threads and if you screw it onto the LavaTube all the way it cuts off the airflow. Great...
IMO, and this is just my opinion, mech mods are more so suited for lower & sub-ohm builds. If you have no intention of dropping down to below 1.3 ohm builds, there's not much of a reason to buy one as a VV/VW mod will be more than sufficient for anything above 1.3 ohms (which is the general "cap" for VV/VW mods, meaning they won't fire a coil below that resistance).
I bought a Nemesis Clone (HCigar) because I wanted to venture into the .5-.8 ohm builds. They simply suit my style of vaping better than the higher ohm builds. It's not for the huge clouds, it's for the concentrated vapor production and flavor that these style builds yield for me and my DIY juices. I topped the Nemesis with an IGO-F, built a coil and rocked it. It took about 1-2 minutes to build the coil, another 1-2 to install it and then 10-20 seconds to thread a piece of cotton through and juice it up. From there, vaping bliss.
I use the stock airflow hole on the IGO-F, so no drilling needed. It works, packs a punch in terms of TH and up until recently, has served me very well. I'm now looking for a slightly larger building deck and drilled holes in the posts so I don't have to wrap coils around screws. That's the only issue with the IGO-F, to me.
As for batteries, a 30amp battery is *not* required for mech mods. Are they nice to have? Yes, are they required? No. A 10 amp battery will work for quite a few sub-ohm builds. As an example a .5 ohm at 4.2v comes out to 8.4 amps, so a 10 amp is in that range. Anything lower and yeah, I'd look into a higher amperage battery, but you don't *have* to have a 30 amp.
As for rebuilding in general, if you go the micro-coil route, you won't be spending as much time building. An MC can last weeks to months if you take care of it; I've had one last nearly 2 months before it just broke due to the heat of a .4 ohm build I had running. That means it lasted through numerous (cotton) wick changes, dry burns, rinses, etc. In that time, I used about a whole cotton ball for a wick (which is 20-30 times cheaper than a single coil head) and went through a good amount of juice, but it was all worth the effort of dripping.
All you need is a 10ml-15ml bottle in your pocket and you're set for dripping
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I bought a Nemesis Clone (HCigar) because I wanted to venture into the .5-.8 ohm builds. They simply suit my style of vaping better than the higher ohm builds. It's not for the huge clouds, it's for the concentrated vapor production and flavor that these style builds yield for me and my DIY juices. I topped the Nemesis with an IGO-F, built a coil and rocked it. It took about 1-2 minutes to build the coil, another 1-2 to install it and then 10-20 seconds to thread a piece of cotton through and juice it up. From there, vaping bliss.
I use the stock airflow hole on the IGO-F, so no drilling needed. It works, packs a punch in terms of TH and up until recently, has served me very well. I'm now looking for a slightly larger building deck and drilled holes in the posts so I don't have to wrap coils around screws. That's the only issue with the IGO-F, to me.
As for batteries, a 30amp battery is *not* required for mech mods. Are they nice to have? Yes, are they required? No. A 10 amp battery will work for quite a few sub-ohm builds. As an example a .5 ohm at 4.2v comes out to 8.4 amps, so a 10 amp is in that range. Anything lower and yeah, I'd look into a higher amperage battery, but you don't *have* to have a 30 amp.
As for rebuilding in general, if you go the micro-coil route, you won't be spending as much time building. An MC can last weeks to months if you take care of it; I've had one last nearly 2 months before it just broke due to the heat of a .4 ohm build I had running. That means it lasted through numerous (cotton) wick changes, dry burns, rinses, etc. In that time, I used about a whole cotton ball for a wick (which is 20-30 times cheaper than a single coil head) and went through a good amount of juice, but it was all worth the effort of dripping.
All you need is a 10ml-15ml bottle in your pocket and you're set for dripping
.So find out what your low end coil resistance is that the Lava tube will function with and work from there. If you like good amounts of vapor and amazing flavor a drip atomizer is without a doubt the way to go. Start out with an iGo w, they are low in cost, have the ability to run a dual coil when you advance in the building process, and can be fired by any mechanical or lava tube, so when you move up mods some day, this atomizer will be compatible.
Start out with the single coil build. Check out youtube on how to wrap your own coil and keep your resistance over 1.2 to start out with if the lava tube will run at that resistance. A single coil is easy to build, the wick, if done right will hold enough juice for 15 to 20 hits before drying, and the ohms should be above 1 for easy operation. Keep in mind, that if/when you try to put in that second coil, that your ohm level will not go up but down!!! So two 1.2 ohm coils will come out reading .6 ohms, so at that point you will need a mechanical mod with the right battery, and NEVER stack your batteries in a mechanical. Mechanical mods are now made with vent holes in the battery compartment, so the chances of them turning into a pipe bomb in your face are VERY low, but the batteries can vent and will vent gases out of the battery compartment if the battery purges (thows up). Just do your reading, talk to your local vapers that are also using mechanical mods, and you will LOVE switching over to dripping. Be weary of the local shop charging you $400 for a mech mod, that is outragous. Check out fasttech.com or other sites for some great prices. They sell a lot of good clones for great prices. Shipping takes a while, but for the price, its worth the wait!
Start out with the single coil build. Check out youtube on how to wrap your own coil and keep your resistance over 1.2 to start out with if the lava tube will run at that resistance. A single coil is easy to build, the wick, if done right will hold enough juice for 15 to 20 hits before drying, and the ohms should be above 1 for easy operation. Keep in mind, that if/when you try to put in that second coil, that your ohm level will not go up but down!!! So two 1.2 ohm coils will come out reading .6 ohms, so at that point you will need a mechanical mod with the right battery, and NEVER stack your batteries in a mechanical. Mechanical mods are now made with vent holes in the battery compartment, so the chances of them turning into a pipe bomb in your face are VERY low, but the batteries can vent and will vent gases out of the battery compartment if the battery purges (thows up). Just do your reading, talk to your local vapers that are also using mechanical mods, and you will LOVE switching over to dripping. Be weary of the local shop charging you $400 for a mech mod, that is outragous. Check out fasttech.com or other sites for some great prices. They sell a lot of good clones for great prices. Shipping takes a while, but for the price, its worth the wait!
First off, I'm new to vaping, so my technical knowledge is pretty limited. I was really tempted to get the Smok SID, it has variable voltage, very sturdy construction, and replaceable batteries, an AMOLED display screen. Moreover, it looks seriously cool. However, I wasn't really ready to dip my toes into the mod pool just yet, so I just went for an Evod Starter kit with 2 complete cigs for over £10 less. I know getting the SID would have been a step up for me, and variable power sounds perfect, but it just went with something simple, well-made, and reliable that I know gives a great hit. I think I will get that mod in a few months when I know more about the tech, though.
To the OP, if you know where to look, you can get a nice Mech set up for cheap.
My friend liked my mech set up, so I put him a mod together for real chaep.
On ebay I selected *buy it now, *USA only, *Free Shipping
Here is what I got him,
* Chi you clone- $29.99
* igoW atomizer with drip tip- $12.00
* 100ft spool of 26awg Kanthal A-1 wire- $10.00
* 2 Sony VTC4 30 amp batteries- $15.00
* Trust fire, 2 bank Charger- $10.00
Total- $76.99
The wait was about 4 days for him, when the vapemail arrived, I drilled out the igoW holes and built him a dual coil set up. He is blowing clouds and enjoying it. The deal are out there, you just have to look for them and not let a Vape Shop take your funds. Education is the key. I only visit vape shops for juice now...until I learn how to DIY my juice.
Good luck on your Vaping adventure. Remember it's just a tube with a battery to fire a coil. Real mods are ok, but clones get the job done.
My friend liked my mech set up, so I put him a mod together for real chaep.
On ebay I selected *buy it now, *USA only, *Free Shipping
Here is what I got him,
* Chi you clone- $29.99
* igoW atomizer with drip tip- $12.00
* 100ft spool of 26awg Kanthal A-1 wire- $10.00
* 2 Sony VTC4 30 amp batteries- $15.00
* Trust fire, 2 bank Charger- $10.00
Total- $76.99
The wait was about 4 days for him, when the vapemail arrived, I drilled out the igoW holes and built him a dual coil set up. He is blowing clouds and enjoying it. The deal are out there, you just have to look for them and not let a Vape Shop take your funds. Education is the key. I only visit vape shops for juice now...until I learn how to DIY my juice.
Good luck on your Vaping adventure. Remember it's just a tube with a battery to fire a coil. Real mods are ok, but clones get the job done.
I also really like the simplicity and the reliability of mech. mods. There is no electronic device that lets me down and if theres something wrong i can simply fix it.
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This is a big problem with B&M these days. Vaping community have expanded well beyond the hobbyist and now includes lots of main stream consumers. Some of these part time workers at B&M needs to stop pushing their adolescent lifestyle to regular consumers. You don't need mech mods to enjoy vaping. It's like saying only way to drive fast is to buy a custom sports car with nitro. (let's not forget flash wheels) It is "easier" to achieve bigger cloud and stronger flavor with RDAs, but you don't need to push the limit of sub ohms with mech mods.
"vaping" and "rebuilding" are two different thing. Enjoying food doesn't mean you have to be a cook. Vaping is something we do so often throughout the day, it must fit our lifestyle, not the other way around. If you like to tinker and have the time? rebuilding can be a rewarding hobby. But if you have a busy job and have kids running around the house, stay with something simple. Unlike other hobby, poor choice here can make you go back to analog.
I went to a Nemesis Clone frm H-Cigar with a Nimbus Clone RDA. Since getting this setup months ago, I haven't touched anything else. All my other gear is pretty much obsolete at this point as nothing produces vapor or taste like this setup.
I make coils at or around .8ohms and use cotton wicking on the RDA deck. Coils last about a month or so and I change the cotton wick every few days to a week. I am going through considerably more juice though than I was with cartos/tanks/carto-tanks and clearos. Probably 10-15ml a day depending on how often I vape.
Time to start figuring out how to make juice!
I make coils at or around .8ohms and use cotton wicking on the RDA deck. Coils last about a month or so and I change the cotton wick every few days to a week. I am going through considerably more juice though than I was with cartos/tanks/carto-tanks and clearos. Probably 10-15ml a day depending on how often I vape.
Time to start figuring out how to make juice!
I did it... I bought a mech mod... and I love it! I got a Nemesis clone with a Kayfun Lite clone RBA and a couple of Sony 18650s. Rebuilding the coils is not nearly as complex as I thought it was, replacing the wicks is a cinch, it's actually cheaper than cartomizers, the Kayfun allows for almost as much vaping time as the tubetank, I can control almost every aspect of my device on my own, it's actually really fun to work on my setup and learning about how to do it has been a hoot, and it only really takes as much time as I want to spend on it. It's great. I will be getting an RDA in the near future, I'm thinking I will try out the Patriot. The only bad news, I somehow managed to rip the threads out of the Nemesis while screwing the Kayfun back in after using it for just a couple of days, ...!?!? I think I got a Chinese knockoff of the HCigar knockoff. Anyway, I am enjoying it so far and it was pretty cheap to get started, thanks for all your help guys, you've been awesome!
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