What's the deal with these 2-piece disposable cartridges?

[the_president]

Hello Everyone,

I've been vaping for 3 days and I already don't want normal cigarettes. I've only had one analog today because of a battery issue.

I have a starter kit that I purchased off of amazon from a retailer with good reviews. I turns out that the box says "new e-cigmini" and has "e-cig.com" on the front of the box. The entire starter kit looks *exactly* like the "red dragon" starter kit except for the brand labeling. These units are the two piece design with a disposable atomizer / cartridge combo.

I have two questions, does anyone know of a reusable cartridge and atomizer that will fit this style battery? And, can they be refilled at least once with some e-juice and a syringe?

As far as analogs go, I've been rolling my own with different tobacco, papers, and filters so I'm very interested in customizing the various parts of e-cigs too. Am I out of luck with customizing my first e-cig purchase?

 

[wegster]

Here ya go RE: 'deal with 2 pieces':
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...s-e9-vk-bloog-totem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc.html

But, the RD is a clone, don't remember of which, the e9 maybe? (minus LED). Any KR808D-1/vapor king/zeus or greencig cart should go on them, AFAIK (don't have an RD, but have several of the 'others' mentioned)

 

[the_president]

Thank you, wegster

I think "cartomiser" was the missing search term that I needed. I never heard this term before and searching for "2-piece" and "disposable" didn't yield much useful info.

Has anyone converted to 3-piece atomizers from this type of unit?

 

[Cellmeister]

What I Like About The 2 Piece E-Cigs Is No Messy Juice and No Leaking Until U Decide To Add Some Juice To The Dry Cart.

My Thoughts On The 2 Piece, ie VK's & VK Style:

Clean, Fast To Put Together, Vapes OK After Primer Puff, Does Not Leak In Your Pocket and A Great Addition To Your E-Cig Collection.

Other Then That It May Be Over Rated.

~Keep Vapin~!

 

[Elendil]

What is the "dud" factor on these cartomizers? Some attys we get are DOA does this happen with the cartomizers.............?

 

[Tyson]

I stumbled across of review a few weeks ago, I think it was of the Red Dragon, that said 2 of the 10 cartomisers that came with the kit the reviewer received were duds out of the box.

 

[wegster]

Elendil - see the above thread, lots of info in there.

Short answer - QC needs to be improved, and the inner wick starts to burn before you can taste it doing so. It's *possible* although seems unlikely, the RD has better QC somehow, but several suppliers have said *all* the 2 piece carts for KRD808D-1/VK/etc and e9/RD/etc clones are all made the same place...so it's mixed. Some suggest ripping them apart and 'filling' them *before* any use, others top off, many of us have ripped them open to find the insides burned. Doesn't mean that's not acceptable to *you*, as everyone needs to make up their own mind, but the only two piece cart I feel *fine* using personally are the $$ but entirely different greencig carts.

The 'dud factor' is really a crap shoot..some carts work great for 50-100 puffs, others have crapped out (burnt taste) within a dozen drags. Most are somewhere in between, but as always, YMMV..

 

[GrimmGreen]

What is the "dud" factor on these cartomizers? Some attys we get are DOA does this happen with the cartomizers.............?

so far , i have used up roughly 10 cartomizers , and did not have any duds at all , 5 from vapornine , and 5 from vapor4life

 

[~kerri]

Thank you, wegster

I think "cartomiser" was the missing search term that I needed. I never heard this term before and searching for "2-piece" and "disposable" didn't yield much useful info.

Has anyone converted to 3-piece atomizers from this type of unit?

yes BUT itdepends on your model#. the KR808D1 (nebula, vapor king) battery works great with a DES901 atomizer and cart. I am vaping happily away on one as I type (though I just use the cart as a mouthpiece- I prefer to drip)

 

[scintar]

Quality control will always be a issue when purchasing items from China. When items are mass produced the love is not put into a project. Most are not tested as just a select few out of a batch are actually tested. I have been buying quantity of electronics for years now. 1 out of every 10 were bad. It got to a point where i had to personally test my items before I would ship them. People then complained that the item was not new as described. You can't win. Catch 22 if I may say. Just something you have to add into the cost of the item you are buying. I add the cost of one to every ten I purchased. Sometime even loose on that. My sales rep trys to make it right for me. I know it comes out of his commission tho. I just stopped asking for a refund and roll with it. That is the way you have to look at it.

 

[GrimmGreen]

yes BUT itdepends on your model#. the KR808D1 (nebula, vapor king) battery works great with a DES901 atomizer and cart. I am vaping happily away on one as I type (though I just use the cart as a mouthpiece- I prefer to drip)

holy crap i never realized that a Nebula battery would fit a 901 atomizer... and it works! i knew they shared the same threads but i never tried because it always seemed like the nebula battery wouldn't make the connection to the 901 atomizer...

thanks for the info! now my 901 can have an extra long battery life!

 

[wegster]

so far , i have used up roughly 10 cartomizers , and did not have any duds at all , 5 from vapornine , and 5 from vapor4life

All made from the same manufacturer.

Have you taken one completely apart yet?

 

[GrimmGreen]

All made from the same manufacturer.

Have you taken one completely apart yet?

i have not taken one apart yet , i probably will soon though. As it stands they are all working great being re-filled

 

[KreeL]

Happy vaping! Good luck with what you got.