What's yours ? Mesh cotton?

[Gill gee]

Hi guys, on my vape journey I've tried allsorts of cotton and silica ,I've not yet tried mesh , I've used normal cotton, even cotton yarn I find awesome , at the moment I'm using (natura crochet yarn ) it's combed cotton and I stumbled on it by accident , it doesn't need any breaking in its full on flavour from that first puff,when I use regular non organic cotton,even after 3 boils I get a funky taste .ive heard cotton needs broke in ? True ? I don't know to be honest ,I'm getting some organic just to ease my mind lol, what's your wicking materials? I'm using in my kayfun and Russian [ dmc natura cotton yarn] it's by far the best flavour I've had outta all the cotton yarn etc I e tried ,only £3 for a massive ball that'll last forever ,I really want to use cotton wool though ,but that funky taste puts me right off

 

[Rickb119]

I use natural 100% cotton cooking twine and love it. Since it's unbleached, I do boil it a couple of times before using. One of the things I like about it is the ease of threading it into the coil using a bead needle.

 

[Susan~S]

I prefer Japanese cotton pads -- Ko Gen Do or Shiseido but have used Cellucotton Rayon as well.

Here are some links:

1. Cellucotton (Rayon) - at Sally's Beauty Supply ($11.49 for 500 feet)
2. Shiseido - at Sephora ($9.50) or Macy's or Nordstroms
3. Ko Gen Do - at Sephora ($12.00 for 60 pads)

Graham Cellucotton Box Numbers: 44060 (500 ft), 44043 (3 lbs = 900 ft), 44040 (1200 ft), 44130 (40 ft).

 

[Dampmaskin]

I mostly use Japanese cotton. Sometimes 2.5 mm quality silica. Once in a while #500 SS mesh.

I find that cotton gives the vape a certain clothy taste, but it's not unpleasant. No break-in needed, at least for the cotton I use.

SS mesh gives me the stingy metallic taste of hot legs (or rather hot spots), or the taste of burnt juice, if I don't build it right. When it's done right, and not gunked up, the taste is clean.

Silica hos no taste that I can discern.

 

[DingerCPA]

Plain ol' cotton. I don't boil. A couple of hits, and there's no more funky taste for me. Then, I'll just rinse (water or vodka) a couple of times, and then I'll rewick. I've used cellucotton (rayon) - it's o.k., but mostly cotton.

 

[reverser]

It's definitely a hassle to work with at first, but if you're up to the challenge, in my experience an SS mesh wick provides excellent flavor, quick flavor swaps, and unparalleled longevity.

I don't have direct experience with your setup(s), but from a quick Google search, it looks as though others have done full ss mesh wicks on both of your atomizers. You will get varying information from different folks that have had different experiences, but I prefer NOT to pre-oxidize the wick as it leaves a charred black substance (carbon?) all over the mesh that distorts the taste (my opinion) and reduces the life of the mesh (fact). The wick will slowly oxidize itself (and work out the shorts) as you begin to heat the coil for the first time (prime with plain VG / PG as you perform this "burn-in").

With that said, you will most certainly start with shorts that need to be worked out, and this the hassle I refer to in the beginning of the post. The trick is to pre-roll the coil on a drill bit, small screwdriver, etc., then install it into the RBA with just enough space that the rolled mesh wick can be slid in and make light contact. Shorts can be poked and prodded out using a dental tool. Additionally, rolling the mesh on the diagonal will allow the mesh to bend to fit into your atomizer without kinks. It's definitely something that requires a bit of patience and practice.

With a dry burn after every 5-10 fills, you basically start with a "fresh" atomizer. The more you dry burn, the quicker the mesh will deteriorate in the area around the coil, so there's a balance game that you will become familiar with as you use this type of setup more.

It's worth a try at least. It's my experience that many of the current vapers have been introduced to the "cloud chasing" style of vaping and have sub-ohm dual coil setups with Japanese organic cotton running at far too high a wattage to actually taste the juice. I've given that approach a fair shot, but find a traditional single coil setup between 1-1.5 ohms with SS mesh provides a far better flavor and long term vaping experience.

YMMV

 

[Poisontail]

I use Japanese cotton

 

[CassiusCloud]

Just regular everyday organic..
I used to use 100% natural until i realized pretty much anything is natural inside the universe,even man made stuff..

 

[djsvapour]

I quite enjoy a blast with silica on my Plume/Magma/Igo stuff.

.. but mostly cotton wool for me... plain old whatever.

I was a bit late to the AGA-T party to comment on mesh.

 

[rodeo302]

Japanese cotton for me I use koga cotton I used to use regular cotton and silica but the don't wick fast enough I like the flavor on mesh but it's been way too long for me to remember how to use it.

 

[Larry Anderson II]

Always organic cotton. Never boil and have no taste issues.

 

[rodeo302]

Also gonna add no matter what I do I can't taste anything unless I use mesh then it's very subtle I can get hints here and there if done strong flavors but other than that nothing.

 

[Rwb1500]

Rayon for sure. Wicks like crazy, outlasts cotton quite a bit.

 

[leemc37]

I did try a natural cotton that I got from cottonman (cant remember the name) but I found it to fiddly to work with, im back on silica mostly now and loving the flavour from it. I still use ss mesh sometimes if I fancy a change.

 

[Dana A]

It's definitely a hassle to work with at first, but if you're up to the challenge, in my experience an SS mesh wick provides excellent flavor, quick flavor swaps, and unparalleled longevity.

I don't have direct experience with your setup(s), but from a quick Google search, it looks as though others have done full ss mesh wicks on both of your atomizers. You will get varying information from different folks that have had different experiences, but I prefer NOT to pre-oxidize the wick as it leaves a charred black substance (carbon?) all over the mesh that distorts the taste (my opinion) and reduces the life of the mesh (fact). The wick will slowly oxidize itself (and work out the shorts) as you begin to heat the coil for the first time (prime with plain VG / PG as you perform this "burn-in").

With that said, you will most certainly start with shorts that need to be worked out, and this the hassle I refer to in the beginning of the post. The trick is to pre-roll the coil on a drill bit, small screwdriver, etc., then install it into the RBA with just enough space that the rolled mesh wick can be slid in and make light contact. Shorts can be poked and prodded out using a dental tool. Additionally, rolling the mesh on the diagonal will allow the mesh to bend to fit into your atomizer without kinks. It's definitely something that requires a bit of patience and practice.

With a dry burn after every 5-10 fills, you basically start with a "fresh" atomizer. The more you dry burn, the quicker the mesh will deteriorate in the area around the coil, so there's a balance game that you will become familiar with as you use this type of setup more.

It's worth a try at least. It's my experience that many of the current vapers have been introduced to the "cloud chasing" style of vaping and have sub-ohm dual coil setups with Japanese organic cotton running at far too high a wattage to actually taste the juice. I've given that approach a fair shot, but find a traditional single coil setup between 1-1.5 ohms with SS mesh provides a far better flavor and long term vaping experience.

YMMV

^^^^^This exactly^^^^^

The SS mesh wicks last me about 8 months. That's with a dry burn after every single tank because I use dark sweet liquids. I scrape the coil after dry burning with a dental pick and the whole thing is like brand new. Each wire coil lasts me about 2 or 3 weeks. So simple and fail proof once you get it down. I do torch the heck out of my wicks when I 1st make them though.

 

[iamthevoice]

I use the Shiseido cotton pretty much exclusively. It's consistent, as I can simply cut a similar strip from a pad each time I need a new wick. I've found that it does have a bit of a "break-in" period (about 1/4 of a tank in my opinion) but the taste is very dependent on the flavor of the juice used.

 

[tj99959]

I use ekowool in my KF, and 4 strands of 0.8 silica in my RDAs.

Tried all the rest, silica is still the best.
I want to vape .... not change wicks all the time.

 

[Kaezziel]

I run rayon in everything.... It's in my drippers, my Orchid, and my genny tanks... I've gotten through about 105ml or so on the wicks in my Orchid without a change... I can get 2 weeks out of my drippers before I change the coils out of boredom... I don't use my genny a whole lot, but those wicks have been in there for about 2 months and still work like they did the day I put 'em in... I've pretty much completely given up on all other wick materials...

 

[Coldt45]

I've been using Drago Organic Egyptian Cotton in all of my RDA's. It comes in a roll and I can cut strips as needed, no need to boil just wick and go. I really haven't a dry hit either, but if I do it's not as harsh as anything else I've tried.

 

[smittytoo]

100% cotton kitchen twine. Six strands pulled through a 1/16" coil with a wire bead needle, giving me 12 strands net.