When fruit is not fruit....

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peraspera

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Yes, your initial order may be pricier, but in some cases, "you get what you pay for" stands true. You pay a little more for more time take to make a better tasting juice.

However, about 3 weeks after your order ships, you get 15% off coupon to use in the next 15 days. I'll usually purchase a 10 ml, a 30 ml, which takes my total over $20 and then ask for my free 10 ml bottle of my flavor of choice (as long as it's sample eligible, there might be 10 out of all their juices that aren't - it will say in the description). For about $21, I can get 50 mls of juice from Ahlusion. And when that order ships, in 3 weeks, I'll get another 15% off coupon. And your coupon can be used multiple times in that 15 day period.

I'd say paying money for juice that I find I hate ends up being more expensive than paying a little more right off the bat for juices I love. No throw away juice for me! :) It's all in your perspective.

With the 15% coupon, ordering a 60 ml. bottle of juice and a 10 ml. sample the price per ml. including shipping comes out to be 38¢ per ml. Ordering 2 - 30 ml. bottles and a 10 ml. sample the price per ml. comes out to be 43¢ per ml. My perspective is that's silly cheap for juice of such high quality.

For that price one is assured of getting natural tasting flavors combined with Wlad's jaw dropping, magical mixing skills made in a lab with NIST or ASTM specs. I'm pretty much over ordering from other vendors because the hit versus miss ratio has proven to be far too frustrating and expensive for me.
 

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With the 15% coupon, ordering a 60 ml. bottle of juice and a 10 ml. sample the price per ml. including shipping comes out to be 38¢ per ml. Ordering 2 - 30 ml. bottles and a 10 ml. sample the price per ml. comes out to be 43¢ per ml. My perspective is that's silly cheap for juice of such high quality.

For that price one is assured of getting natural tasting flavors combined with Wlad's jaw dropping, magical mixing skills made in a lab with NIST or ASTM specs. I'm pretty much over ordering from other vendors because the hit versus miss ratio has proven to be far too frustrating and expensive for me.

I'm with you! I've been trying some other vendors lately, because I'm "flavor curious", but when I want crisp, clean flavor with no weird aftertaste, I'm always happy to return to my Ahlusion collection!
 

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I don't want to have to spend 10-15 dollars more to get a pinapple that taste like a pineapple?

more then what?
what is your price range?

some of the vendors mentioned are not unreasonably priced
where not talking 5 pawns

can I go to mcD's and expect 5 star flav?

can I get a New BMW performance and comfort for the price of a used Oldsmobile?

No buddy expects that but for some reason when It comes to eliquide so many people expect top flav for bottom prices

I don't get it

I'm sorry that you took me out of context. I do not expect to pay 5 dollars and get top notch flavor on the same hand I do not expect that I should have to spend another 10-15 dollars to get a juice that is stated to be strawberry to taste like strawberry.

Let me break it down further: If a vendor puts a juice up for sale on their site and states "This is an apple e-liquid" and I in turn order said juice. I expect that on arrival it should taste like apple "LIKE" being the operative word. When said juice ends up tasting like perfume is what point I was trying to make in the OP.

The taste is subjective thing can only take vendors so far.

Oh and FYI My price range is pretty much whatever I want to make it. I could go buy a 6$ Coffee at Starbucks but I go to Dunkin Donuts and spend 2$ because they both sell coffee and both taste like coffee to me. Understand?
 

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With the 15% coupon, ordering a 60 ml. bottle of juice and a 10 ml. sample the price per ml. including shipping comes out to be 38¢ per ml. Ordering 2 - 30 ml. bottles and a 10 ml. sample the price per ml. comes out to be 43¢ per ml. My perspective is that's silly cheap for juice of such high quality.

For that price one is assured of getting natural tasting flavors combined with Wlad's jaw dropping, magical mixing skills made in a lab with NIST or ASTM specs. I'm pretty much over ordering from other vendors because the hit versus miss ratio has proven to be far too frustrating and expensive for me.

Thank you for the informative post.
 

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I love Rawr juices but they take at least a few weeks to age. Right out of the mail they aren't even the same juice that they will become in 2 to 4 weeks time. Wonderful, complex with just the right amount of sweetness. But I'll also admit they aren't Farm Fresh fruit. If I weren't so cheap, I'd buy them more often.
 

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I love Rawr juices but they take at least a few weeks to age. Right out of the mail they aren't even the same juice that they will become in 2 to 4 weeks time. Wonderful, complex with just the right amount of sweetness. But I'll also admit they aren't Farm Fresh fruit. If I weren't so cheap, I'd buy them more often.

I have not ordered from them in a while, I was a big fan of Dawn of Truth. I have a little bit left in a bottle from over a year ago. It's now black as night and a bit past it's experation date. It still smells great though! :)
 

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Let me break it down further: If a vendor puts a juice up for sale on their site and states "This is an apple e-liquid" and I in turn order said juice. I expect that on arrival it should taste like apple "LIKE" being the operative word. When said juice ends up tasting like perfume is what point I was trying to make in the OP.

The taste is subjective thing can only take vendors so far.

It's not at all surprising that some people may think a particular vendor's juice tastes like apple while others think it tastes like wet, dirty sox. No one is wrong. It just means that there is nothing particularly that unusual in flavor concentrates being perceived that much differently by different people.

To the best of my knowledge, Ahlusion is the only juice vendor that creates the majority their own flavor concentrates which is something that requires both inborn talent as well as no small amount of expertise. Other juice vendors depend on commercially available flavors where the big money unicorns are artificial, addictive flavors rather than natural ones.
 

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I, too, am a HUGE fan of Ahlusion's fruits. I cannot be without the fruit creams in particular. Second behind Ahlusion in the fruit category for me is Copper Creek. Their passionfruit and apricot especially are delicious, spot on natural fruit. I don't think either vendor is that expensive really.
 
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I have and you're right they're good but still too expensive. I'm not trying to sound like I'm cheap as I will order more expensive juice on occasion sort of like a treat but it's the filler/in between juice I'm talking about. PS. I have no patience for DIY.

Honestly, IMO, Ahlusion or another "premium" vendor is absolutely worth it, because they nail the taste so that it's enjoyable, and it's STILL cheaper than actually smoking analogs.
 

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I'm sorry that you took me out of context. I do not expect to pay 5 dollars and get top notch flavor on the same hand I do not expect that I should have to spend another 10-15 dollars to get a juice that is stated to be strawberry to taste like strawberry.

Let me break it down further: If a vendor puts a juice up for sale on their site and states "This is an apple e-liquid" and I in turn order said juice. I expect that on arrival it should taste like apple "LIKE" being the operative word. When said juice ends up tasting like perfume is what point I was trying to make in the OP.

The taste is subjective thing can only take vendors so far.

Oh and FYI My price range is pretty much whatever I want to make it. I could go buy a 6$ Coffee at Starbucks but I go to Dunkin Donuts and spend 2$ because they both sell coffee and both taste like coffee to me. Understand?

keep in mind you can get the same but better coffee you get from d&d at Starbucks for $3 or $4
the $6 is for their flavored latte

and keep in mind its $2 and change

but what your asking for is to pay the discount deli special price of .60 for the same coffee

you know that deli the dirty one with the roaches
$13 -$20 per 30 ml is the going rate for good juice

there are some more and some less

but haven't found nor would I expect anything special for less the $13
 

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keep in mind you can get the same but better coffee you get from d&d at Starbucks for $3 or $4
the $6 is for their flavored latte

and keep in mind its $2 and change

but what your asking for is to pay the discount deli special price of .60 for the same coffee

you know that deli the dirty one with the roaches
$13 -$20 per 30 ml is the going rate for good juice

there are some more and some less

but haven't found nor would I expect anything special for less the $13

I don't want to have a metaphor war. So I see your point and thank you for your input.
 

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I've found a lot of the cheaper vendors or vendors who use a lot of Flavor West flavorings, the fruit mixes come across as tasting like either pixie stix or sweet tarts, and while I love those candies, I cannot STAND them as a "fruit" mix.

Vendors who use FW flavorings, I suspect, use entirely too much of it in their mixes for many people who use high performance devices and/or have a keen sense of taste/smell. I think that the success of budget-minded companies like MBV is not only due to their price point, but also because the flavoring percentage they use in their juice is ideally calibrated for the 5-7 watt range on eGo/clearo setups or similar: Gear that the vast majority of vapers use.

I fell out of love with MBV shortly after I discovered high-wattage vaping. Everything I'd been ordering from them that I loved in my Evods and Protanks tasted rancid in my IGO and Kayfun. So I ordered some flavorings and began DIY using their recommended 15-40%. Same thing. The banana tasted like Runts candy and the strawberry tasted like Glade. Do not want! So I abandoned them entirely.

Now, after many months of running the gamut with literally every other flavoring vendor out there, I'm back to Flavor West. I don't mix a single one of their fruit flavorings at more than 2%, and every fruit juice I make with their stuff is fantastic on my gear (mechs and cotton Kayfun/RDA's). Compare that with MBV's recommended 15-40%, which I assume are the percentages they use in their own product, and it's obvious to me why I can't vape their house blends at 20 watts without gagging.
 

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Vendors who use FW flavorings, I suspect, use entirely too much of it in their mixes for many people who use high performance devices and/or have a keen sense of taste/smell. I think that the success of budget-minded companies like MBV is not only due to their price point, but also because the flavoring percentage they use in their juice is ideally calibrated for the 5-7 watt range on eGo/clearo setups or similar: Gear that the vast majority of vapers use.

I fell out of love with MBV shortly after I discovered high-wattage vaping. Everything I'd been ordering from them that I loved in my Evods and Protanks tasted rancid in my IGO and Kayfun. So I ordered some flavorings and began DIY using their recommended 15-40%. Same thing. The banana tasted like Runts candy and the strawberry tasted like Glade. Do not want! So I abandoned them entirely.

Now, after many months of running the gamut with literally every other flavoring vendor out there, I'm back to Flavor West. I don't mix a single one of their fruit flavorings at more than 2%, and every fruit juice I make with their stuff is fantastic on my gear (mechs and cotton Kayfun/RDA's). Compare that with MBV's recommended 15-40%, which I assume are the percentages they use in their own product, and it's obvious to me why I can't vape their house blends at 20 watts without gagging.

Maybe that's my issue FW. That company seems like it's behind a majority of my flavor issues. I have dabbled in DIY and am in no way an expert but I did use FW sweedish fish and I loved it. I just can't comprehend why their fruits are so bad. Again, this is my preference.
 
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