When you hit zero juice...
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Since i'm or was a menthol smoker i always have a packet of the strongest mints i can find.
That usually settles me for sometime.
That usually settles me for sometime.
Well, can always try to mix some up...Phoon Huat flavoring, VG + PG...all legal here. Just need to mix it right...and of cos, no nic.
Always stock well in advance. Cannot want to bomb Russia than go find toilet. Mine can technically last for at least one year...pp
I'm the same.
I'm sitting on probably 5 months of flavors, and.. I dunno. a year worth of unflavored.. at least.
The idea of running out of juice terrifies me...
and I like having lots to choose from too.
Vaping unflavored is no hardship.. it's delicious in it's own way...
j.
I'm sitting on probably 5 months of flavors, and.. I dunno. a year worth of unflavored.. at least.
The idea of running out of juice terrifies me...
and I like having lots to choose from too.
Vaping unflavored is no hardship.. it's delicious in it's own way...
j.
adding to the difficulty of our location, better stock up if possibe.. alike dragonsg, i probably would wanna stock enough to last a year 
by the way, do you guys tried any of your juice that's been stored over a year? wondering if the taste will go bad or what
by the way, do you guys tried any of your juice that's been stored over a year? wondering if the taste will go bad or what
Juice aren't cheap either! At least analog can kop from my kakis.
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Juice aren't cheap either! At least analog can kop from my kakis.
Someone referred me to a source selling juice. Heard the price is quite cheap for 30ml sized.
I'm thinking long term too, hope to get some 25ml 100mg Nic to make my own juice.
analog will be better for you.... STOP vaping.
As mentioned here in my other post here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/sg-vapers/504465-johnson-creek-juice.html#post11644453,
there's a very easy and completely practical way to clone your juice at your required nic level.
Many packaged juices are also 'over-flavoured' with some clearly stated as mean to be blended with others, plus you can get a twice or three times higher nic level than what you need (assuming the common 6mg is acceptable and highest to get is 18-24mg) therein lies the wastage and opportunity.
Check out TPA flavours for more info. https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/c-149-coffee-flavors.aspx
Strong flavours such as tiramisu/cappuccino/clove can be cloned up to 3 times its volume with little loss of flavour by starting with high nic base.
With 'scarce' resources available, its better to think 'green' (natural VG available in most pharma/baking supplies shop) and apply lean management principles (muda)to reduce wastage from excess flavor vapes.
24/18/12/6mg is all same price, hence you can exploit maximum usage.
with this method, if you have 100ml, you can achieve up to 300ml easily, pending on strength of flavour. You can also buy flavours only mix legally to resovle the issue, what is what I do, LOL.
no need to use what online e-juice calculator, those are when you start DIY from scratch, waste of time.
With VG clone method on strong-flavoured high nic juice, just add as much drops of VG as you wish til you achieve desired effect.
Just buy the food grade Glycerin from baking supplies shop..e.g. Phoon Huat.. with branches islandwide..$14.50 for 500ml :http://www.phoonhuat.com/. Can mix n vape til u drop. They sell many flavour extracts as well. Buy the Glycerin BP with 'external use only" at pharmacies at ur own risk, although its reportedly safe to use due to licensing requirements (see other threads on this labelling discussion for pharma grade Glycerin USP/BP).
Vg has other official uses as well, you can use it to apply on your hands and very good to repair cracked/rough/dry skin.
Unless one is totally allergic to VG (rare) or dislikes more vapour/less throat hit,
what you get in the end is much more supplies with added Genting vapour but only <10% added cost and with convenience to produce locally legally some more.
Experiment, mix and match with different levels of nic/vg dilution. Higher Nics will give you same throat hit like a PG (at least for me) even with 70% VG.
Just do it, its much easier than you think.
there's a very easy and completely practical way to clone your juice at your required nic level.
Many packaged juices are also 'over-flavoured' with some clearly stated as mean to be blended with others, plus you can get a twice or three times higher nic level than what you need (assuming the common 6mg is acceptable and highest to get is 18-24mg) therein lies the wastage and opportunity.
Check out TPA flavours for more info. https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/c-149-coffee-flavors.aspx
Strong flavours such as tiramisu/cappuccino/clove can be cloned up to 3 times its volume with little loss of flavour by starting with high nic base.
With 'scarce' resources available, its better to think 'green' (natural VG available in most pharma/baking supplies shop) and apply lean management principles (muda)to reduce wastage from excess flavor vapes.
24/18/12/6mg is all same price, hence you can exploit maximum usage.
with this method, if you have 100ml, you can achieve up to 300ml easily, pending on strength of flavour. You can also buy flavours only mix legally to resovle the issue, what is what I do, LOL.
no need to use what online e-juice calculator, those are when you start DIY from scratch, waste of time.
With VG clone method on strong-flavoured high nic juice, just add as much drops of VG as you wish til you achieve desired effect.
Just buy the food grade Glycerin from baking supplies shop..e.g. Phoon Huat.. with branches islandwide..$14.50 for 500ml :http://www.phoonhuat.com/. Can mix n vape til u drop. They sell many flavour extracts as well. Buy the Glycerin BP with 'external use only" at pharmacies at ur own risk, although its reportedly safe to use due to licensing requirements (see other threads on this labelling discussion for pharma grade Glycerin USP/BP).
Vg has other official uses as well, you can use it to apply on your hands and very good to repair cracked/rough/dry skin.
Unless one is totally allergic to VG (rare) or dislikes more vapour/less throat hit,
what you get in the end is much more supplies with added Genting vapour but only <10% added cost and with convenience to produce locally legally some more.
Experiment, mix and match with different levels of nic/vg dilution. Higher Nics will give you same throat hit like a PG (at least for me) even with 70% VG.
Just do it, its much easier than you think.
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Bro, not that I want to be stingy about money. Is really wallet tight this week from all my expenses... Even if I don't care about my own health, also need to think about my baby that's due next April...
No contradictions there. Both statements are correct I believe. Or at least because I don't know where to get cheap juice.
But like all of us here, we're all trying to stay away from analogs and our health is valued way above dollars and cents. Can't justify returning to analogs either.
But with all due respect, I don't have the same financial capabilities as many of you do. I'm still a student that's trying to piece together whatever I have. Having spent quite a fair bit this month, not only on vapes, the prospect of putting $110 on 2 bottles of juice seems a little of a stretch for me.
Given a choice, I believe none of us wants to run out of juice and seek a non-analog alternative. I'm just hoping to find a route that doesn't lead me back to tobacco leaves.
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I'm considering that option too. But my choices are limited since I'm still doing my final year studies and juggling my family. Don't want to let my wife travel home alone when she's pregnant now.
I'm sorry for all the arguments above. I'm not here to start a controversy, nor do I want to be the ..... in everyone's ..... I'm just hoping to get by under the tyranny/五指山 of the Lee Family.
I hope you guys understand where I'm coming from, definitely don't mean to be an offensive punk around. All you veterans of vapes have all my respect in getting so far when the resources are so darn limited.
I'm considering that option too. But my choices are limited since I'm still doing my final year studies and juggling my family. Don't want to let my wife travel home alone when she's pregnant now.
I'm sorry for all the arguments above. I'm not here to start a controversy, nor do I want to be the ..... in everyone's ..... I'm just hoping to get by under the tyranny/五指山 of the Lee Family.
I hope you guys understand where I'm coming from, definitely don't mean to be an offensive punk around. All you veterans of vapes have all my respect in getting so far when the resources are so darn limited.
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everyone have their own problems to settle also not only yourself. i believe if you can do little homework like how you study for your school exam before jumping into asking question that make people sick i guess it will be alright.
if you seriously care about your family & new born baby just stop smoking or vaping = solve all your problems + also your money.
Like I've mentioned, I just want a discussion and hear more about what you guys do/would do in the event you run out of juice. Like do you distract yoursel with gym, or work? Or do you turn back to analogs? In no way am
I asking for sources to supplies. I'm not that stupid to do so openly in this forum when all the hungry eyes of the authorities are prowling here.
I care about my family. I'm taking the first step into vapes after I heard about its success rate from a friend. Rather than being a headless fly and getting Nic patches, I'd rather opt for a proven solution. Pardon me if I said something that you think it isn't fitting; but these are my frank opinions.
I believe all of us came onto this forum or went into vapes for the same reason. I was hoping to get inputs in a friendly discussion, not a heated debate on whether vaping is suitable for me. I understand your kind intentions to get me off Nic ASAP, I appreciate your thoughtfulness.
But like you've said; everyone has their own problems. I have my reasons for turning to vapes, and I think everyone wouldn't want to touch Nic if they were given a second chance at it. Money may be an issue to me now, isn't that why I'm considering a cheaper alternative to buying juices? I mean, I've only started out a week ago, there are still many things I need guidance on. Just because my budget is tighter during this festive season doesn't mean I'm sacrificing my family to start on a new "hobby". I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
Once again, I apologize if I hadn't made myself clear. But all I wanted was a friendly discussion on what you'd do if you run out of juices.
Let's not have more than what i bargained for.
My fren....i am not sure about you. As for me, i find that juice is way way more cheaper than Cigg. The range is $15 ringgit 10ml, $25 ringgit 15ml and $50 ringgit for 30ml. For a 10ml, i can vap around 3 to 4days and 15ml around 5 to 6days. And if you convert the cost, its just $10 sgd for a 15ml. In sg a packet of cigg cost $10 and that Cfm can't last you a week like vap does.
And bro.. just for the sake of arguement, when you study are you not leaving your wife at home? from 8am to 1pm.. shortest? Using just 4hrs (by bus), you can go in jb and back liao. Its just the matter of want or not. (of cos everyone wants convenience but not everyone gets it). Using just $50sgd, you can get 5 bottles of 15ml good juice or two 30ml, which can last you for about 3weeks?? Isnt that cheaper than cigg?
And if you wan a more cheaper cost.. Then try DIY juice.. $50sgd can you give u mths n mths of juices..
*****Back to the topic*********
I will Vap on my DIY juice tat have been steeping for mths...
And bro.. just for the sake of arguement, when you study are you not leaving your wife at home? from 8am to 1pm.. shortest? Using just 4hrs (by bus), you can go in jb and back liao. Its just the matter of want or not. (of cos everyone wants convenience but not everyone gets it). Using just $50sgd, you can get 5 bottles of 15ml good juice or two 30ml, which can last you for about 3weeks?? Isnt that cheaper than cigg?
And if you wan a more cheaper cost.. Then try DIY juice.. $50sgd can you give u mths n mths of juices..
*****Back to the topic*********
I will Vap on my DIY juice tat have been steeping for mths...
Should I ever run out of juice, my very last resort would be nicotine inhaler. Before that happens, I'll definitely be reading up on DragonSG's suggestion above & basic DIY know-hows 
My fren....i am not sure about you. As for me, i find that juice is way way more cheaper than Cigg. The range is $15 ringgit 10ml, $25 ringgit 15ml and $50 ringgit for 30ml. For a 10ml, i can vap around 3 to 4days and 15ml around 5 to 6days. And if you convert the cost, its just $10 sgd for a 15ml. In sg a packet of cigg cost $10 and that Cfm can't last you a week like vap does.
And bro.. just for the sake of arguement, when you study are you not leaving your wife at home? from 8am to 1pm.. shortest? Using just 4hrs (by bus), you can go in jb and back liao. Its just the matter of want or not. (of cos everyone wants convenience but not everyone gets it). Using just $50sgd, you can get 5 bottles of 15ml good juice or two 30ml, which can last you for about 3weeks?? Isnt that cheaper than cigg?
And if you wan a more cheaper cost.. Then try DIY juice.. $50sgd can you give u mths n mths of juices..
*****Back to the topic*********
I will Vap on my DIY juice tat have been steeping for mths...
Thanks for the input bro.
My school schedule is pretty tight until 6pm most days. My wife is still working, so I pick her up from work everyday. We don't stay together due to family issues. My only time with her is from 6pm to 11.30pm everyday. She stay at bedok, I live in jurong west. 11.30 last train home.
Like I said, my situation is a little different. I don't want my wife to travel home alone with a big tummy either.
And yes, vaping is definitely cheaper in the long run. But I think everyone will agree that starting out will cost a little more to get all the stuffs together. Thanks to some SGVapers who chimed in to help, I managed to get 2 sources which are pretty affordable. You know who you are, thank you bros.
And I should be making some of my own juices soon. Purchase of Nic still pending.
hopefully I can make something decent to Vape on and don't choke to death before cancer kills me. - Status
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