Where are folks buying nic from these days?

[UncLeJunkLe]

... smaller batches.

Actually delosi is the cheapesst (before shipping at least) for liters and I have heard good things about them (but also bad things as with all others).

But that's the thing about stocking up, usually you gotta go big anyhow, and freeze it, because no telling how long we're gonna be able to buy nic base. I'm not meaning to be chicken little but the fact is in 2024 we lost 4 suppliers of 100mg nic. 1 retailer went out of business (NudeNicotine), 2 stopped retailing nic base (Heartland and LNW) and 1 only retails 24mg max (PerfectVape). So I'd say now more than ever it may be time to actually stock up for however long you intend to vape. The more retailers we lose, the higher prices are probably gonna go before their all gone.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Actually delosi is the cheapesst (before shipping at least) for liters and I have heard good things about them (but also bad things as with all others).

But that's the thing about stocking up, usually you gotta go big anyhow, and freeze it, because no telling how long we're gonna be able to buy nic base. I'm not meaning to be chicken little but the fact is in 2024 we lost 4 suppliers of 100mg nic. 1 retailer went out of business (NudeNicotine), 2 stopped retailing nic base (Heartland and LNW) and 1 only retails 24mg max (PerfectVape). So I'd say now more than ever it may be time to actually stock up for however long you intend to vape. The more retailers we lose, the higher prices are probably gonna go before their all gone.

Yep, I agree 100% and that is WHY I "should" have stocked up many years ago ... But that is also why I am in the process of stocking up now (before it's too late) ... But it sure is a lot more expensive now than it used to be

 

[AXIOM_1]

Actually delosi is the cheapesst (before shipping at least) for liters and I have heard good things about them (but also bad things as with all others).

But that's the thing about stocking up, usually you gotta go big anyhow, and freeze it, because no telling how long we're gonna be able to buy nic base. I'm not meaning to be chicken little but the fact is in 2024 we lost 4 suppliers of 100mg nic. 1 retailer went out of business (NudeNicotine), 2 stopped retailing nic base (Heartland and LNW) and 1 only retails 24mg max (PerfectVape). So I'd say now more than ever it may be time to actually stock up for however long you intend to vape. The more retailers we lose, the higher prices are probably gonna go before their all gone.

Yeah, and in addition, I did not stock up years ago because I did not think I would be vaping this long. I figured I would vape long enough to help me get away from tobacco, which I did indeed do. I actually did quit vaping for a short time but for some reason eventually went back to it. But I am older now and so I figure I will vape until the bitter end LOL ... So, it's time to stock up.

 

[englishmick]

Do we know why suppliers are going out of business or ramping up their prices?

Is it a fall in demand, some regulations or taxes?

 

[Territoo]

Do we know why suppliers are going out of business or ramping up their prices?

Is it a fall in demand, some regulations or taxes?

It started with the PACT Act of 2020 which limited USPS's delivery of vape supplies, including nicotine. USP and FedEx followed suit. Although this law is little enforced, at the time, a lot of suppliers stopped shipping at that time. Like for a while, Heartland stopped shipping, but if you lived close enough, you could pick it up at their warehouse. Now they don't do retail at all.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Do we know why suppliers are going out of business or ramping up their prices?

Is it a fall in demand, some regulations or taxes?

I have no clue, I wondered myself if something recent happened in terms of legal stuff. But in terms of demand I don't think there's any doubt that demand for nic base is probably down these days. DIY juice is something newer vapers really don't want to do. The vaping market and it's products have matured so convenience becomes the norm as with any other consumer product. Most of the stuff we did a decade+ ago were done out of necessity because quality, availability or usability wasn't great. I don't know numbers, but it's apparent that closed system nic vaping is absolutely huge, and that segment of the market would never bother with DIY since you can't refill closed systems.

 

[WorksForMe]

I believe that unless the Supreme Court or the next administration does something about the FDA soon, nicotine vaping suppliers will keep getting harder and harder to find. We'll see what happens over the next few months.

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[Fidola13]

Where do you live? I have 5 liters of nicotine that were stored in amber bottles with poly cone (?) which seals the air from getting in the bottles. Most are from Hartford. Oh yeah I forgot about them lol!

As far as the nicotine it would have to be a local pickup since I don’t drive as much as I use. PM me.